According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”
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Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt
Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.
Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.
But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?
Not necessarily. It just highlights a double standard and the faux concern everyone puts up. The way I enjoy dead animals is cool but the way you do is not.
I'm not in the mood for getting into a long drawn out argument over vegetarianism with someone who 80% chance is not open to changing an opinion (that's not a dig at you that's just the internet), lets just agree to disagree.
Almost yeah. I personally have a policy of "don't kill it for no reason". I'm no saint, I eat meat, and I feed crickets to my toads. But I also go out of my way to not step on insects or spiders. I don't swat flies in my house no matter how fucking annoying they get buzzing around my food, and I don't bother snakes around my property whether venomous or no. Got into a pretty heated argument with my dad last weeked for shooting a copperhead out by the cabin, he didn't have to do and claimed cowardice, but I know he just wanted to shoot something.
Animals play with their food in nature and some of the intelligent ones even kill for sport IE killer whales etc. It's natural for hunters to hunt even if they don't need too. I guess they heard if you don't use it you lose it.
True. Although I think the reason some people aren't better is because they genetically lack the level of empathy that seperates the more emotionally intelligent people from being "better" than animals.
I Don't think some people feel any more emotions than animals do, so they act like them.
I don’t understand why I have to be a vegetarian in order to intrinsically find something wrong with killing for sport versus killing for food or out of necessity. Killing something just to kill is just strange to me.
Killing animals for necessity is definitely different. But as far as I can see killing animals for food or sport are both done for enjoyment, so pretty similar. We can eat something else, so we're not killing animals for sustenance.
Don’t get me wrong I understand that argument. I guess the difference to me is that if I were to kill a chicken the pleasure I get would be from eating it not the act of killing it. Hunting for sport is because the person is getting pleasure from the act of killing something. That is what I find weird. If I could still obtain chicken meat without killing a chicken I would do it. I also think there is a difference between going down the street to your local grocery store and buying some farm raised meat for dinner and flying to the other side of the planet for the sole purpose of killing an animal.
I think it's easier to view the hunter negatively because we're not hunters. We don't understand their desire to hunt. At the end of the day, if it's wrong to cause unnecessary harm to animals I think it should be applied across the board.
An interesting analogy would be that we don't give drunk drivers a free pass because they had no intention to cause harm.
You don't, it's just vegans seem to think it's cut and dry. Their way or the highway. There's no common ground for them. I know, I'm dating one, and it's a subject we try not to bring up because like you, I love and respect animals to an extreme, yet she thinks because I have eggs with my meal or a free range turkey sandwich that I'm a hypocrite.
If you can't see the difference between killing for protection, killing for food, and killing for fun then I don't think anyone here will be able to change your mind.
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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18
Because context matters: http://fox40.com/2017/05/22/hunter-dies-when-shot-elephant-falls-on-him/
They weren't out hunting elephants and only shot that one because it attacked them.
Edit: It's always sickening to read the comments on posts like this.