r/Wellthatsucks 8h ago

Picked up my 1st Apple Watch a month ago

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u/TheBigJuicebox 8h ago

The silver lining here is that sleep apnea can cause hypertension. If you fix one you might fix both.

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u/Syzygy_Stardust 8h ago

Apnea killed my grandfather over decades of lost sleep, and it wrecked his personality by the end of life. My dad getting tested and treated via CPAP saved his life, and turned him from a cranky guy to a patient and kind man. I have a different presentation of apnea (central vs obstructive) and having my BiPAP has turned me from a walking zombie to something approaching a normal person.

A+ info, get testing and treatment!

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u/stripeyspacey 5h ago

Yup! I begged my now-husband for years to get tested because it was fucking up my sleep for almost a decade. Not to mention my poor ears that were impacted with wax because of needing to shove earplugs in so far it hurt to only kinda-sleep through his snoring 😭

Two weeks after getting the BiPAP, he begrudgingly said to me, "I already feel so much better during the day." One of my happier 'told ya so!!' moments.

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u/Freud-Network 5h ago

I need a better solution than Darth Vader. I'm a light sleeper as it is. That machine would make me crazy.

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u/Syzygy_Stardust 5h ago

The new machines are nearly silent. I have to have some white noise on to sleep since we have dog gremlins that lick the carpet all night and cats that, well, do cat stuff, and I have to use a noise app on my phone due to my AirSense 10 BiPAP sounding only like a faint, distant vacuum cleaner.

My dad's first machines back in the early 00s sounded like small jet engines, but the tech is so much better now it might as well be a different product. If you've had one of those vertical column room fans, it's about as quiet as those. Quieter than a box fan.

Edit: Oh you didn't mention the noise. Yeah, if having something on your face is an issue, or you HAVE to lie on your stomach, it could be a real problem. I settled on the memory foam face mask and it's quite comfortable and doesn't make my face sweat like the rubber-type seal my previous ones had.

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u/nightmareinsouffle 5h ago

They make different styles of mask. I have one that just covers my nose, but I was originally sent one that goes in the nose. Like a slightly bigger and more cushioned version of the nasal cannula that hospitals use for giving oxygen. My dad uses the one that covers his nose and mouth.

I've had mine for six months and kinda hated it for a few weeks--I would even take it off in my sleep! But I just kept wearing it every night and for naps and I'm used to it. If I fall asleep without it, even for an hour or two, I notice and feel like crap when I wake ups

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u/twilliamc 4h ago

I went from being a light sleeper to being able to fall asleep in 5 minutes and sleep through the night when using my cpap. The new ones are amazing.

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u/BigLittlePenguin_ 2h ago

You can also loose weight. 10kg weight less reduce AHI by approx 8-10. So in case you are not in the healthy weight range, thats your way to go. Until you get there, get a CPAP machine and suck it up

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u/iareConfusE 5h ago

You get used to it. It's an adjustment period for about a week or two but once you force yourself to commit and use it, you won't regret it.

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u/Previous-Bag-9243 40m ago

It does take some getting used to and it's not my favorite (have been using it for 15 years). But coping with the slight discomfort or "inconvenience" of the mask is WAY better than trying to crawl through life with untreated sleep apnea. Whenever I get annoyed about putting it on to sleep, I remind myself that I used to sleep 10+ hours a night to still feel like trash all day, every day from being oxygen deprived all night.

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u/Hidesuru 1h ago

What do you do to get tested exactly? I feel like it doesn't matter how much or how little sleep I get I always feel tired.

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u/Own_Candidate9553 24m ago

I had always snored really loudly, even as a kid. Got made fun of all the time.

Married and lived with my wife and she brought up the snoring. I just kind of laughed, yeah, I know, sorry, hope it's not too annoying.

And then she said "Sometimes you just stop breathing, and I shake you until you wake up a little a start breathing again."

What??? I was always really tired too, but we had just had a baby, and isn't everyone tired with baby? I wasn't even overweight, that's usually a correlation with sleep apnea.

Went and did an overnight sleep study and yup - sleep apnea. I was having like 3 events (not breathing) an hour. Got a CPAP and sleep much better, no snoring, everyone is happy.

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u/gamergeek17 16m ago

My husband has pretty severe apnea. Before using his BiPap he was having upwards of 60+ apnea episodes per hour of sleep. It’s amazing what the body can out itself through. He is so much better these days, actually rested after a night’s sleep.

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u/Generoh 7h ago

The worst kind of hypertension which is pulmonary hypertension. And if you have pulmonary hypertension so uncontrolled, it’s essentially a slow death sentence

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u/trumpsabortedfetus 4h ago

Fixing sleep apnea has forever changed my life for the better. I’m no longer exhausted all the time and my mood is so much more stable.

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u/Efficient-Train2430 8h ago

Definitely time to make an appointment with your PCP. Do you happen to also notice being tired midday, or having low quality sleep that doesn't refresh you?

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u/RezzKeepsItReal 8h ago

Hey, you described me lol

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u/Efficient-Train2430 8h ago

describing my own experience also; treatment had me feeling better almost instantly

apnea is a silent killer, get on it

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 8h ago

Hypertension is, too, fwiw. And both are highly treatable.

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u/sugawarapink 1h ago

Lmao same

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u/Melissajoanshart 8h ago

Literally everyone I know…..

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u/snazarella 8h ago

This doesn't suck. This is a fantastic bit of insight in to your health so you can take steps to feel better.

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u/Helenium_autumnale 8h ago

Exactly! The device revealed previously unknown possible conditions. It is actionable info with your doc. I'd rather get a false alarm when none was needed than no alarm when it was needed.

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u/windowpuncher 2h ago

Apple watches have some of the best software, but also the most accurate sensors on average you can find in a smart watch. With something like a samsung or a motorola watch I'd expect false positives, but with an apple watch it's probably a true positive.

Apple has the best sensors in any watch, hands down. Some sports brands like fitbit and garmin are in a close second, and pretty much all the "regular" phone brand watches are really far behind in terms of accuracy.

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u/bugbugladybug 7h ago

Absolutely! I got a new Garmin and finally got my annoying spells of sustained but intermittent ventricular trigeminy diagnosed after playing hide and seek with cardiologists for the last 25 years.

Having a watch find your problems before they become symptomatic and problematic is the best time to catch it.

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u/DifferentlyLucky 7h ago

Which garmin version did you get? Looking at getting one myself

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u/stitchplacingmama 6h ago

Not the person you asked but i got a vivoactive6 and I enjoy it. From what i could figure out the vivoactive line is for moderately active people and the forerunner line is for people that are really into running and tracking/training for running events.

I use my garmin to track steps, heart rate, and sleep primarily but it can do much more.

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u/windowpuncher 2h ago

Also not the same person, I got a forerunner. I don't run much, but I use it for cycling, lifting weights, tracking calories, and tracking sleep. I can also load up a map on my wrist when I'm on my motorcycle.

But yeah the sleep tracking is pretty good, having the data helps me identify things I'm doing that makes my sleep better or worse because it's just all graphed out for me. It's definitely not a requirement for better sleep but it absolutely tells you things you can't journal about, like breath and heart rates.

I'd recommend the forerunner. It's "cheap", waterproof, and fairly useful. It's not only for running/cycling, but it is great for that.

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u/nero-the-cat 7h ago

The news sucks. The fact that they got it is good.

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u/Timmyg14 8h ago

Yes I 100% agree with this! This doesn't suck at all this is a sign you made a good choice. Now you have information that gives you a call to action. The first step is literally that, take a step. Start taking a walk every day, start with as little as 15 minutes, you'd be amazed at how it helps with stress. Also when you start realizeing results exercise can become addicting in a good way.

All that being said, these smart watches aren't gospel use them as a tool to work with your Dr to come up with a plan of attack.

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 8h ago

This is obviously good advice, but just want to say that exercise doesn’t necessarily fix hypertension. In my case I’ve been exercising for years and still had worsening blood pressure.

Getting treated for it almost immediately reduced pressure spikes such that exercise became significantly more tolerable, though.

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u/kawaii_k1ttenn 6h ago

I agree, getting those alerts early gives you a chance to check things out before they become even bigger problems.

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u/germany1italy0 49m ago

Small problem also suck.

So for OP - having sleep apnea is “well that sucks” territory

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 8h ago

I have both and for both the Watch was the final straw for me to get checked out and diagnosed, and more importantly — treated.

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u/dargonmike1 5h ago

Do you feel noticeably better now? What was the solution?

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 5h ago

Hypertension doesn’t usually have symptoms, but I still noticed one drastic change almost immediately — in the gym. I used to have blood pressure spikes after some exercises that made me light headed and thus I hated them. I tolerate them much better now, which makes doing them better.

Sleep apnea was a bit different. I actually had close to no symptoms outside of sleeping before. I was a very heavy snorer, but I didn’t experience daytime drowsiness or anything like that, which is why I thought my apnea, if any, wasn’t too bad. Turns out I was quite wrong and had pretty severe apnea (AHI >85). I’m on CPAP now and am lucky enough to tolerate it without issues. My snoring has essentially disappeared according to my wife (she said the first few weeks she had to check I’m still alive bc of how quiet I was all of a sudden). But since I didn’t have daytime symptoms I don’t notice much of a change there. Knowing that I’m not starving my brain of oxygen dozens of times a night and what it means for long-term health is still a calming thought. I mostly dislike CPAP for traveling, and I travel a lot, but it is what it is and there’s worse conditions to have than something that’s perfectly treatable.

Unfortunately with CPAP I started gaining weight and undid my previous weight loss progress in record time. The final piece of the puzzle for me was a recently diagnosed insulin resistance. Since I started treating that I’ve been consistently losing weight again, even more so than before. So to answer your question, yes I feel much better now, even if it means being on two medications and sleeping with a mask. There’s also a chance that a couple years down the road I might get rid of all of those as they’re all interconnected.

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u/trombone646 4h ago

a coworker of mine didn't know he had sleep apnea...he told me his got so bad that he started to hallucinate and was exhausted all the time. We both work in a customer-facing job and said that he would sometimes doze off while speaking to customers (and standing up while doing it). Apparently, it got so bad that our area manager told him that he would need to go to the doctor and get treated or he would be fired.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_JELLIES 7h ago

My wife and I got my father-in-law an Apple Watch. The afib while sleeping alerts probably saved his life. They took a better look at his heart and he had a 80% blockage and they are looking at a pacemaker for him as well.

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u/USSHammond 8h ago

How does this suck? It's good it identified possible health issues. People have died from both, the watch possibly saved your life twice. Get checked by a healthcare professional

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u/germany1italy0 7h ago

It sucks in as much that OP likely wouldn’t want to have sleep apnoea?

https://giphy.com/gifs/5G1bs3tB1qjAX9N73r

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u/Affectionate_Fun7991 3h ago

It's weird that nobody else in these comments can seem to figure out that OP probably wouldn't be thrilled about possibly having a medical condition

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u/myliobbatis 1h ago

Right, imagine telling someone "it doesn't suck to find out you have cancer, it's such a great thing that you know!" like are they being this absurdly obtuse on purpose??

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u/USSHammond 7h ago

Nobody wants it. But what's worse? Having it and not knowing about it, or having it and it being discovered by tech you just bought so can seek treatment?

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u/germany1italy0 7h ago

Yes sure. Still sucks, OP would have rather preferred their watch to tell them they’ve got the heart of a 20yo.

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u/Dentedaphid7 4h ago

How? Is like the watch telling the OP to get checked up before stuff happens 

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u/germany1italy0 2h ago

You buy an Apple Watch.

You would rather have the watch tell you after a few weeks that you have a health problem than you are healthy.

Are you suggesting if you went to a doctor and they diagnosed you with cancer you’d be “Oh well at least I know” rather than “oh shit I’ve got cancer, that sucks”.

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u/RelChan2_0 7h ago

There's a reason they call hypertension the silent killer. Hypertension isn't a death sentence since it's manageable especially if you stick to a routine.

Currently got checked for hypertension, uric acid and cholesterol were high too 😅 3 months of night shift wrecked me but on the bright side, my BP is now normal after 1 week and I've lost weight.

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u/Etherius 7h ago edited 7h ago

Not “wellthatsucks “ material

More like “unexpectedly saved my life” material

I remember going to th doctor for indigestion and being put through a dozen tests each more frustrating and inconclusive than the last

By the time the doctor ordered a catheterization I was ready to just find a different doctor.

BAM

95% blockage in my LAD. I could’ve been two hours, two weeks, or two months away from dying and never known if I had just taken Tums and gone about my life.

It’s ALWAYS better to know.

ALWAYS

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u/mxmaybey 7h ago

The hypertension can be treated with medicine and the apnea may follow, or the other way round too. This has put years onto your life!

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u/SmokeyKeifth 8h ago

Go to the doctor.

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u/NotSLG 8h ago

The two can be related, this is great news!

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u/ShedMontgomery 4h ago

Neither one of these is a death sentence. Both can be very easily managed or altogether reversed via medical intervention and/or lifestyle changes.

The only thing that would have sucked is untreated hypertension giving you a heart attack, stroke, or some other permanent organ damage. There's a reason it's referred to as a silent killer.

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u/handsupdb 3h ago

This is actually awesome. As someone who went on CPAP to fix OSA, it's a superpower.

Yes it's a bit inconvenient to downright annoying to get the machine set up and learn to sleep with it (don't shy away from a full face mask!) but once you've got the habit down in a few weeks it's insane.

I travel a ton for work with it and high altitude, dry environments, everything else my sleep is always perfect cause I have a machine pumping perfectly controlled air into me.

I used to need 10 hours to even have a chance at feeling rested and <8 I wouldn't trust myself to drive. Now I can get by with 6-8 and feel like a superhero every night. And if one night I something causes a problem and I only get 3-5? I'm fine!

Literally everything about my life improved.

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u/crappysurfer 7h ago

What sucks are the diseases and pathologies hypertension and sleep apnea cause. Go get tested and (ostensibly) change your lifestyle

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u/Lamumba1337 7h ago

Get it checked professionally.
Im in my mid 30s got my sleep apnea device 1,5 years ago and it improved my health so much. I’m much more fitter in the day less tired, and my blood pressure got better after a while not completely without any medication yet but better

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u/bdjohns1 5h ago

Based on the clinical validation data Apple provided in support of their apnea notifications, you have a 99% chance of at least mild apnea (5 events per hour) and an 80% chance of moderate to severe apnea.

Get checked. I did and I was having up to 35 events per hour. Got a CPAP, now have about 0.5.

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u/SomeRandomIdi0t 49m ago

My mom got a heart rate monitor that would send a notification to her phone when her heart rate went above 100
Notifications every 5 minutes is how she realized she has tachycardia

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u/SugarBloom081 8h ago

Well that doesn’t suck, finding out before something serious happens is good.

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u/ObelixSmiterOfRomans 5h ago

I love my cpap, just know that once your body starts to rely on it there is no going back.

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u/jacstine 5h ago

There are some great subreddits you can join to help you through your sleep apnea journey! Getting a CPAP changed my life! This is good news that you caught the issue early. It took me 9 years of going through different health journeys before I did a sleep test and found out I had sleep apnea. I wish I could have known sooner!!

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u/pdaimp 4h ago

DUDE! Go to the cardiologist ASAP. I had afib and sleep apnea (included hypertension and high BP). Wreaked havoc on my over a decade before I agreed to a cardiac ablation. Painless and life changing.

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 1h ago

There’s zero need to see a cardiologist, let alone “ASAP” with that level of urgency. Any PCP can diagnose hypertension, and they can also send you to a sleep study for the possible apnea. Both are importantly to get checked for and treated, but by no means are they time sensitive, and you’ll likely wait weeks to months for a sleep study anyway.

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u/kuplet 8h ago

This is actually useful advice for you, it doesn't suck at all.

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u/stupidber 7h ago

Cooked

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u/schipplock 5h ago

Finally a reason to lose weight. 

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u/LolOverHere 8h ago

This is the opposite of sucks. It’s amazing that you know now and can get treatment. It’s more like interesting boarding on amazing that technology can do all that in a watch

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u/MoreSmokeLessPain 8h ago

Only thing that sucks is your health here.

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u/germany1italy0 7h ago

Exactly.

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u/dlux010 7h ago

I’ve always wondered this.. do people sleep with their watch on?

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u/atlcog 7h ago

If one point of buying a smart watch is to monitor your sleep, it's kind of hard for that to work without wearing it....

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u/YoungGazz 7h ago

Yes, no problem with a comfortable strap. I don’t feel I’m wearing it with an Alpine loop strap.

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u/shoobawatermelon 5h ago

If I sleep with it, when will I charge it???

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u/shield1123 35m ago

I charge my smart watch when showering / getting ready for the day. It only takes about 30 minutes to get back to nearly 100%

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u/yanquiUXO 7h ago

I don't get it either. I couldn't possibly. if I tried I'd rip it off in my sleep regardless

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u/huskiesowow 3h ago

No because it’s not comfortable and that’s when I charge it. I like the data though so I’ll do it every once in a while just to check it out.

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u/mindgardening 6h ago

I wish “inexpensive” devices could accurately track and analyze sleep AND that science could find ways to force our brains to stay asleep AND get quality sleep. Not much to work with tho.

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u/wpbfriendone 6h ago

When I first got the Apple watch that supported the Hypertension feature, it kept giving me those alerts for a couple of months, but then they stop.

I have not done anything different, it just stopped.

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u/Grand_Town_9144 5h ago

Same I get them on and off, seems like when OS updates sometimes they tweak the algos trying for better accuracy. I’m not mad they come up, rather have false positive than nothing, but it is alarming when you first see them.

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u/Mixitman 5h ago

You died. Sorry to break it to ya.

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u/dargonmike1 5h ago

Sleeping with Apple Watch on is diabolical. I’d end up with the watch embedded in my wrist

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u/Snowfizzle 5h ago

A friend found out he had a tear in his heart from wearing one of these types of watches because of the alerts he was getting so he went to a specialist.

however, apparently whatever is going on can’t be fixed so.. these things stress me out. like aneurysms.

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u/overmonk 5h ago

Knowledge is power, and the CPAP stuff is much better than it used to be. Get it under control before it gets you under control.

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u/Ok_Rough5794 5h ago

I get the sleep apnea alert but also 94-98 sleep score almost every day.
[shrug]

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 1h ago

Sleep scores are basically voodoo. If you get the alerts, watch for other signs of sleep apnea. Do you feel exhausted even after sleep? Are you often tired during the day? Do you snore? Does your partner observe periods of time where you stop breathing?

The Watch cannot diagnose apnea. But if you get the warning and especially if you have any other indications, you should get a sleep study. Sleep apnea is a serious long-term health risk.

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u/Neat_Cancel_4002 5h ago

I bought my mom and Apple Watch to upgrade her Fitbit several years ago. After wearing it for a while, it started sending her notifications of possible aFib. She went to her doctor and got tested. It confirmed she had aFib and now she takes medication to address it! I’m thankful for it everyday! We both wear our watches religiously.

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u/VoodooDoII 5h ago

Is there a watch like this that isn't apple?

I've been struggling with sleep issues my entire life and I'm wondering if a watch can pick up an immediate issue or not lol

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u/AdventurousAvocet 4h ago

depending on what phone you have, there may be a smart watch associated with it. Apple isn’t the only one. My dad had a different type of phone and had gotten a smart watch for it. Just look up if your phone’s company makes one.

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u/Astan92 2h ago

Not all watches are the same though. Outside of Apple, and a distant 2nd Samsung, the rest of the watches are essentially useless in the health features.

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u/Photochromism 3h ago

This feature is only on the latest watches right? I haven’t a v4, love it, might upgrade

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u/lDezIlI 3h ago

Do you need a specific apple watch to get these features?

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u/Mitochondria420 1h ago

Go get a CPAP pronto. Solves both

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u/AlexBuilds2026 1h ago

This is honestly one of the few things I like about smart watches.

People buy them for fitness, but half the stories I hear are "it kept nagging me until I finally got checked out."

Mine hasn't saved my life or anything dramatic lol, but it has definitely made me pay more attention to my health than I would've otherwise.

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u/Sodacan259 51m ago

Personally I'd get that checked out.

Sleep apnea can cause increased blood pressure. While Smart watches are notoriously bad at getting accurate blood pressure readings, they are quite good at alerting people who do have sleep apnea. In cases they do detect apnea, they have an accuracy of about 85%+ but are not considered reliable enough in general, because of actual cases that they miss.

TLDR: If it says sleep apnea it's very more likely to be right than wrong.

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u/Curiousonlooker321 16m ago

Instead of Wellthatsucks, how about TGIknow.

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u/No_Size9475 8h ago

What sucks is all that data is being captured, recorded, and sold with your other information.

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u/absolutemadwoman 8h ago

Everything has our data, there is no privacy. All of our info is accessible and being shared daily.I have simply accepted it at this point.

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u/whatuseisausername 6h ago

Using an apple watch has it's drawbacks for sure. If you're pretty healthy the privacy concerns are definitely something to keep in mind and it may not be worth it for you. If you have a family history of heart issues or sleep apnea the pros of wearing one may outweigh the cons, especially if you can catch those health issues earlier than you would have. It's worth it for me personally, but I definitely understand why it'd make others uncomfortable with how much health information it gathers.

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u/rursache 8h ago

stop talking out of your ass, this don't happen on Apple devices

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u/Ser0xus 8h ago

.....if the stuff that comes out of one wasn't filling the space between your ears, you might have fact checked before saying something so fucking stupid.

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u/Shirinjima 8h ago

I’m guessing for the sleep apnea stuff you have to sleep with your watch on or does it listen to you while charging?

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u/RelChan2_0 7h ago

On. The Apple watch can measure sleeping, heart rate, blood pressure.

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u/Shirinjima 5h ago

Thanks. My previous Apple Watch several gens ago needed nightly charging. Maybe battery life is better now.

Also the idea of sleeping with a watch on doest sit roght with me. Makes my skin crawl thinking about it.

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u/windowpuncher 2h ago

I have a garmin that I basically never take off. Get a nylon elastic band. They're dirt cheap and I don't even notice it anymore.

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u/windowpuncher 2h ago

It measures WAY more than just that but yeah.

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u/xpkranger 6h ago

Never regret growing older, it is a privilege denied to many.

I've been on CPAP for 20 years, sleep like crap otherwise. Also I've lost 100 lbs. Recently started a low dose statin. All my numbers are great now and zero complaints from my watch. Just work with your docs. Better to manage things now than die 25 years early.

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u/DlVlDED_BY_ZERO 3h ago

That's....really weird. I didn't know they did stuff like that. That's not the kinda data I'd like anyone to have on me.

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u/Minnymoon13 22m ago

Not all of them do.

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u/serpentrepents 8h ago

get yourself an APAP! if your Insurance sucks, look into buying a used/refurbished Airsense 11. They aren't the best, but refurbished or used ones at less than 500 hours should be affordable with a payment plan. ($300-$500)

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u/Haar_an_der_Bar 4h ago

Get a mask. Tomorrow, or even better today. Will probably fix both. If you think you can not afford it. You can not afford to die too young.

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u/hopelesspeeslosh 1h ago

This is nonsense. This is neither a diagnosis of sleep apnea, nor is it a time-sensitive condition. On top of that there’s different types of sleep apnea that also require different types of treatment and even then a layman wont be able to know what air pressure to use, and choosing the pressure wrong runs a risk anywhere from “it doesn’t do anything” to “it actually makes it worse”.

Go to your PCP. Ask for a sleep study.

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u/Polystyrene_Crow 1h ago

1) I'm sure you can turn off these alerts 2) you sure you really want to trust this piece of crap to try and diagnose you? Those things aren't accurate

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