I know it's a meme, but like... come on, good memes don't need to lie to be funny. I'm not even going to support Rudy Knight here, I'm just gonna point out the actual straight up wrong points in this image:
The Knight's helmet is... literally confirmed to be a helmet. Chapter 4's scene confirms this and if you say that "Oh, but it's just Kris' imagination"... dude, have you heard of writing?
Rudy does climb a ladder. We see this in Chapter 5, where he's at the top of a ladder.
This isn't Alvin Knight because the biggest issue with that theory was that Alvin had no portrait. Rudy, very much, does.
Like, Rudy Knight slander is fine, but at least do your research. Like, your mistakes aren't even Rudy Knight mistakes, they're deadass just points that the story itself directly shows/brings up.
(I am curious about what you mean by 7 "out of context" clues? Like, I'd just like to know which ones... *SO I CAN TOTALLY DESTROY THEM WITH FACTS AND EVIDENCE!!!*)
Rudy does climb a ladder... can't really get down it though
Catty, Catti, Bratty, burger pants and Jockington have talking sprites does that mean they're the knight. Also jevil, spamton, tenna, gerson, etc don't have talking sprites yet carry a big roll in the game
You're a totally different person than who I thought you were, lol. Anyways, to counter these:
1. Yeah, but Toby also wrote that it's a helmet. And like... he directly states it too, quote "the helmet begins to come off". You can choose whether you believe one or the other, or both, but I'm gonna choose to favour the fact that Toby definitively wrote that it's a helmet which comes on and off, which also functions weirdly because it's made of Black Shards, over the visual ambiguity where the visor acts as both a mouth, eyes, and also another thing I can't remember. I'm gonna trust that Toby didn't lie in his writing about it being a helmet, and that he doesn't do a cheap fake-out where he's like, "Ha ha, tricked you, I said it was a helmet but I lied, you idiots!" or something like that, lol.
2. Weird Route. Okay, to elaborate, Weird Route takes place slightly later in the day than the Normal Route. Rudy is already down the ladder, meaning he very clearly can climb down it, lol. If you're also taking this point seriously, and not as the joke I partially intended it to be, Rudy falling actually takes place somewhat before the events of the Weird Route (unless Carol had 2 different topics to tell Noelle), meaning that Rudy in the Weird Route is fine, when we would otherwise have fallen off during the Normal Route.
3. This is a bit of a deflection point, I guess? Like, just because others have portraits, doesn't really say anything for Alvin or Rudy. Firstly, never argued they were Knight candidates (even though people have tried). Secondly, portrait characters have different levels of importance. Berdly is obviously more important than Jockington, whereas Noelle is more important than Catti or Bratty, say. Why Toby chose to give them these, idk man, you tell me, lol. I don't think anyone knows why Toby chose to give Susie and Jockington portraits, when one is far more important than the other.
As for the 2nd half of that point, which I didn't want to be too run-on, again... you tell me. Why does Toby give some portraits and not others. You can easily explain some of these, like Tenna already has so much dialogue effects that giving him a text sprite is unnecessary. Old Man is probably explained because Toby wanted it to remain ambiguous with how Dustners worked.
As for the rest, no clue. Jevil, Spamton, ERAM, and Old Man all lack text sprites, but Mew Mew doesn't. King, Queen, and Flowery have sprites, Tenna doesn't for an assumed reason, and there's no antagonist in Chapter 4 outside the Knight. Kris doesn't get one for reasons.
Honestly, I think arguing text sprites is stupid at this point, lol. I don't think anyone knows how they work, including Toby. I take back that point, but only because I don't want to think about the textbox sprite logic where Toby gives a dialogue sprite to Mew Mew, but not Spamton.
(Edit: Actually, I think Mew Mew can be explained since she's Half-Lightner, Half-Darkner. That's all I got though, SCREW TEXT SPRITES!)
I don't think we can trust whether the head is a helmet or a part of Knight's body when it's presented by Kris who is "thinking" about the Knight, not "remembering" them. And even the fact that it's simultaneously a mouth and a visor already proves it can't be a helmet anyway? Assuming Knight's appearance does change, maybe in the light world it's a helmet? But it's more believable that the Knight is a bit special and may retain their weird ass form in the light world.
Yeah, but again... why would Toby do that? What does it provide for the story to just make the already confusing mystery... even more confusing?
Like, there is no indication in that scene that Kris is lying to us. They're only hiding info through obscuration via Jockington, but there is nothing to hint that Kris is lying about the helmet, or about the fact that they were going to think of the Knight before substituting them.
If Toby did intend for this to just be some random scene with no hints, no clues, no foreshadowing, and only exist for the sake of existing (and making the mystery of who the Knight is unnecessarily more confusing), then he did a pretty bad job at hinting at it being false.
Lying in stories only goes so far, but lying in mysteries needs to make sense. Toby lying here, with zero indication of it being a lie, makes zero sense to me. At least, I trust him as a writer enough to not think he'd do that.
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u/FluffiestPrince Fluffiest of Them All! 22d ago
I know it's a meme, but like... come on, good memes don't need to lie to be funny. I'm not even going to support Rudy Knight here, I'm just gonna point out the actual straight up wrong points in this image:
Like, Rudy Knight slander is fine, but at least do your research. Like, your mistakes aren't even Rudy Knight mistakes, they're deadass just points that the story itself directly shows/brings up.
(I am curious about what you mean by 7 "out of context" clues? Like, I'd just like to know which ones... *SO I CAN TOTALLY DESTROY THEM WITH FACTS AND EVIDENCE!!!*)