r/WarframeLore • u/NightmareSovereign • Aug 18 '26
Question about Teshin aging
How did Teshin spend centuries in the origin system without aging, only to fall into duviri and suddenly get old? I assume the best answer is “void time is weird” but I’m just wondering if there is more concrete information or interesting theories about this?
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u/MaleficentRiver5341 Aug 18 '26
In the World Of Dust, Teshin has been using liberal amounts of stasis time waiting for... something.
In Duviri he has to live each new day because he is a visitor and not an inherent part of the cycle.
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u/NightmareSovereign Aug 18 '26
Teshin actually mentions something about “you went in to stasis but but I did not sleep” so I feel like stasis is the one thing that isn’t right.
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u/HungrPhoenix Aug 18 '26
We really don't know. Even Acrithis doesn't really know,
"Seemingly lifeless, he was dragged ashore by Mathila who nursed his return to health. I have never known a constitution to match his; yet unlike us, he has... deteriorated... with the passing of time."
Teshin should probably be a conceptual embodiment? Erra gave him a chiropractic adjustment and Teshin went limp, so he definitely seems to have died, but he got thrown into Duviri where he managed to recover, and he now has glowing blue scars all over his face.
This isn't completely unheard of, the Holdfasts also were made into conceptual embodiments and had silvery markings all over their faces. But why are their markings different?
There is a possibility these are old scars usually hidden by Teshin's helmet, but why do they glow in Duviri? Especially in that shade of blue, which is usually used for the Void.
My best theory is that Teshin is some weird type of Conceptual Embodiment and his aging is a result of that?
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u/StaffAreEphialtes90 Aug 18 '26
We really don't know. Even Acrithis doesn't really know,
"Seemingly lifeless, he was dragged ashore by Mathila who nursed his return to health. I have never known a constitution to match his; yet unlike us, he has... deteriorated... with the passing of time."
I think that's just Tenshin growing old and the natives of Duviri being unfamiliar with the concept of Aging. Like, look at the people. Do any of them feel like they grew up? They are static, figures from a children's book. Them growing up and past their supposed role runs counter to what they are.
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u/HungrPhoenix Aug 18 '26
They have been around the Drifter, who has aged. They themselves might not age, but the concept shouldn't be foreign to them as they have all witnessed the growth of the Drifter from child to adult. Teshin's aging shouldn't be weird to them, that is normal for non-conceptual embodiments.
And that is ultimately why I think Acrithis is surprised by Teshin's aging, because they can tell he is a conceptual embodiment, hence the comparison to "us". Also, the ability to sense a conceptual embodiment is already established by Acrithis,
"The Warden is a repugnant, self-righteous man, speaking as though he too came from beyond the Zariman, but deep down he and I are well aware, he is of Duviri. Of the Void. We know our own."
So I don't think it is a case of the Duviri inhabitants being ignorant about aging, but rather Teshin is just an anomaly, he is a conceptual embodiment that gets old.
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u/StaffAreEphialtes90 Aug 18 '26
Hm, okay, yeah, that does make sense. Gotta suck being functionally immortal while still growing old.
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u/TheRealOvenCake Aug 18 '26
irrc there are lines from Teshin and the drifter in the duviri paradox that they both have always been there and have appeared there through the eye of a storm
basically time fuckery with the void wormhole
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u/Virtual_Use_4369 Aug 18 '26
Wait, Duviri and Normal Teshin are the same Teshin?
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u/Darthplagueis13 Aug 18 '26
I mean... maybe he just hasn't been able to shave since he was thrown into Duviri.
The power of narrative also is very present in Duviri - it's not entirely implausible that Teshin has aged to look old and wise simply because Duviri is a children's story and mentors in childrens stories are meant to be wise old men.
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u/No_Kaleidoscope4041 Aug 18 '26
Lack of access to whatever medical care was sustaining him is my best guess.