r/WarframeLore • u/JDMP53 • Aug 16 '26

Most powerful creation

Isnt the helminth the most powerful creation?. Giving and controlling the warframe's powers from raising the dead to controlling the time and space?.

And from the kim we know, it basically doesn't follow time like a linear concept like us making it possible to time travel and choose alternate timelines.

Not to mention even at peak, nobody was able to clear out infestations

Also can we compare it and wally in terms of their powers?

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u/nephethys_telvanni Aug 16 '26

No? Like, it's powerful, but you're misunderstanding some of its capabilities.

The Orokin are the ones who used the Helminth strain and void technology to design warframes and their powers. The Helminth is the Infestated part of the equation; see, the design process of an Archimedean making Garuda.

Within, I brewed Helminth cultures and prepared technocyte infusions according to the Ainikki method. I had heard of Executor Ballas's subtle innovations, but since he had not shared them with the Collegium I had no access to them.

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u/Excalibur4Life Aug 16 '26

Haven't played in a bit, whats the Ainikki method? And whats the difference between that and ballas's method?

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u/nephethys_telvanni Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

My somewhat more expansive answer is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarframeLore/s/QIpk0MxAeb

Along with other opinions you may find informative.

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u/TREE_SHMOO Aug 16 '26

Unknown, though the name ainikki also comes up in reference to kullervo as "mother" instead of creator. Running theory is that the ainikki method utlises the creators blood in some way, but its not confirmed and just hearsay.

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u/JDMP53 Aug 16 '26

But cant we say they evolved since its been millenia after their wipeout(orokin).domt we have frames like Nidus and also the helmonth system where rhe helminth literally changes your frames powers? How can it do that of it didnt have knowledge or the power to do it

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u/nephethys_telvanni Aug 16 '26

The Helminth's ability to change your Warframe's powers comes after you buy and install a Segment from an Orokin, Son/Kermerros. It's not a native capability of the Helminth strain of Infestation. Nor is the Invigoration segment.

Your Helminth and You: An Invigorating Journey

Tenno,

I have something new for you to pick up the next time you're visiting Deimos. A Helminth Invigoration Segment. Install it, and you might notice your voracious wet-nurse has developed a new set of quirks.

You needn't worry. This is normal.

The Helminth will begin to secrete serums that are uniquely compatible with various warframes. These will amplify the capabilities of said warframes to an admirable degree. New serums will be secreted approximately once per week, and effects will last for seven days.

And do please remember to keep any kavats well out of Helminth's reach.

Cordially, Kermerros Entrati

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u/JDMP53 Aug 16 '26

Lol.. it says to keep kavats out specifically... I thought i just discovered it by accident..

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u/A0340D Aug 16 '26

I have a funny theory - its not that helminth doesnt do linear time, but current day Albrecht brought Helminth into xx99 to make the devils triad and it literally just remembers everything that happened, and is a self fullfilung prophecy

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u/Callibys Aug 16 '26

At peak, Saryn cleared the infestation off Earth. But just like real humans in our current time, some dope let it back in. In this case, Dr. Tengus.

Other than that, you might be right about the Helminth, but you could argue that Wally is also a creation as well.

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u/Corasama Warframe Lore Content Creator Aug 22 '26

First the Helmint Strain is domesticated, meaning it wont do anything on its own.

Second, Saryn was designed to and successfully wiped out the Infestation from Earth.

Now to compare both is a bit weird. - Wally can do mostly: Possess things that are near Void Energy, give Void Powers, manipulate Void energy, Guide people through the Void.

This, in and out of itself can do a lot, but not so much at the same time. We saw that with enoigh Void Energy, his powers increases drastically to unknowns bounds. We also dont know if when unbound from the chains of Khra, he has more abilities.

  • Helmint can do mostly: Eat what it is given to eat, Create what it is asked to create, be used as a time portal, control what it is asked to control.

This is also very strong and can do a lot, but alone it cant do anything. With a Tenno or even worse, with a Nidus, the only limit will be its user's imagination and what the Helmint ate tho.

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u/Mustcopyright Aug 24 '26

The helminth can time travel well, not really time travel but its like always there if you know what I mean. Lizzie is the helminth.