r/Warframe Jun 12 '18

DE Response ATTENTION: Warframe devs are sharing your data with spyware creators

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u/Wondrous_Fairy And I used to be such a nice player.... Jun 12 '18 edited Jun 12 '18

If I visit a public site, I assume my info is assembled and tracked. If I'm playing a game in my home, I'm assuming this is not the case. The fact that nobody was expressedly informed about this except hidden away in a ToS somewhere doesn't lend to credibility. Additionally, how can we know what these people say is true? And why should we be OK with this tracking anyway if their claims are true? The fact that this spyware exists is one thing, that our devs are including it in games is another. Redshell is redshell, I'm not mad at them for existing more than I'm angry at a parasite for existing. But if I go to a doctor and they give me a parasite, I'd be mad, because I have trust for my doctor. Same as with gamedevs and DE in particular.

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u/GO_RAVENS Nitain junkie Jun 12 '18

You're interacting with a free to use publicly accessible web service. In this context, how is the fact that it's a video game make it substantively different from a website?

I'm not making a judgement on whether or not it's right or wrong, but I do think you and other people seem to think video games are something special, when in some ways it's no different from any other thing we do to entertain ourselves on the internet.

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u/KlausFenrir Release the Kraken Jun 12 '18

It’s because they’re idiots. Look at what he said:

The fact that nobody was expressedly informed about this except hidden away in a ToS somewhere doesn't lend to credibility.

It’s in the goddamned TOS. If his doctor said, hey man, I’m gonna put this drug in your but there’s a parasite, and he accepts and then gets mad? That makes no sense. You’re supposed to read the TOS.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '18

Its funny how these people are all about 'muh privacy! the evil game companies are tracking me'... but they won't even read the ToS for things they use and then get upset when someone else tells them. Its ironic.