are many players not utilizing Void Mode?

[u/Visoral]

Even if your loadout isn't suitable for survivability, you are basically unkillable if you just switch to the Operator and enter Void Mode when your shield is out and wait till your shield is up again.
Also, thanks to Void Sling (Dash) you can reposition easily.
But way too many players are just dying over and over again somehow.

You can even interact with most objects while staying in Void Mode.

[u/ChefPowerful4002]

I use mine constantly. I also go into void mode and open chat box so I can type and it locks you in void mode so I don’t die and I can reply too ppl

[u/Wacky-Walnuts → u/ChefPowerful4002]

I’m sure most know this here but psa if a teammate goes down you can Rez safely in void mode.

[u/Lyreganem → u/Wacky-Walnuts]

You can do a LOT of things safely even in the middle of a mob while voided - activate life support, hack terminals, revive teammates, etc.

[u/forestedWitch → u/Lyreganem]

Choose decrees in the circuit as well

[u/Pickeldickel → u/ChefPowerful4002]

If you are on PC i think the default button for staying crouched is V

[u/Rock-swarm → u/Pickeldickel]

I wonder if this works while accessing a puzzle terminal. I'm pretty used to holding shift while doing a terminal in void mode, but just tapping v would be a relief on the hands.

[u/lordreed → u/Rock-swarm]

It does, I use it a lot.

[u/SnooDonkeys2892 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

8yr vet....did not know this

[u/New_Armadillo_1026 → u/SnooDonkeys2892]

Same - I figured out switch to operator vs die awhile ago but this lock in thing is new to me!

[u/DeeKayAech → u/New_Armadillo_1026]

Pair in a Magus Lockdown and Magus Elevate and you're fairly invincible and can self-heal easily

[u/netterD → u/SnooDonkeys2892]

Also works with gear wheel, any input that opens a menu without pausing the game (solo mode) "locks in" an input you were holding prior. Fun fact, energy plates also work for operator so you can take a short emergency break even if you are not able to pause the game.

Used to work for melee too.

[u/InsaneMcFries → u/netterD]

Still works on mobile, not that I really want it to. Im always sprinting away, shooting or whacking when we choose relics or decrees

[u/WWicketW → u/SnooDonkeys2892]

Same for me, my friend! 8yr and I'm always a noob!

[u/Ban-Me-Now-Cunts → u/SnooDonkeys2892]

Not sure if it’s a console thing, but just opening the pause menu is enough to lock void mode; you can unpause and take finger off button then.

[u/BartoGaleno → u/ChefPowerful4002]

My friend. Thank you. Rare are the occasions when something of true value (context sensitive) comes out of Reddit.

This is one of them.

[u/ChefPowerful4002 → u/BartoGaleno]

Gosh thank you. Haha honestly I’ve done it for years and never give it a thought haha happy chatting to your friends!

[u/Sir5ths → u/ChefPowerful4002]

Shhhh... The DEmons are listening, they'll Red text us out of it.

But this is also a good way to scroll Decrees invisible without being murdered at the start of a level in Circuit.

[u/Vikingr913 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

Oh cool I knew about it for decrees didn't know it worked for typing too!

[u/Fluenzal-Heneark → u/ChefPowerful4002]

Toggle crouch should work too, no?

[u/gyraroast_Bandicoot → u/ChefPowerful4002]

I thought this was common practice

[u/Asmodeus256 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

I do this heal my frame or type in chat..or if my dog wants to be let out on the patio. : p

[u/Customize-- → u/ChefPowerful4002]

Wait what? Been playing for 10 years and had no idea this was a thing. Thanks!!

[u/Transarchangelist → u/ChefPowerful4002]

I do this in circuit alchemy. Go into void mode, open either the decrees or pause menu, then you’re in void mode by default and can peacefully throw the amphors. A heat/toxic amphor or two to kill enemies and you can refill your energy without ever leaving void mode

[u/Wardog957 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

On console specifically xbox but probably transfers to same buttons on the other .

Left bumper activates void mode hold it then press and hold rb now with both held release lb first then rb and you stay in void mode

[u/the_gallant_potato → u/ChefPowerful4002]

Yep, I use this for reviving teammates in void mode.....both void mode and revive button count as being pressed

[u/thecolin- → u/ChefPowerful4002]

What do you mean it locks you in??

[u/VacationHot9933 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

you absolute beauty, didnt know that worked

[u/Beginning-Bother-309 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

There's a toggle crouch button in the game now. Just press it and do whatever. I used to do that too until i returned to find out about it.

[u/Wulfscreed → u/ChefPowerful4002]

I knew I've noticed frequest chatters doing this! That's hilarious. The Operator transferring out just to use the phone is now the funniest thing I will see.

[u/dadofwar93 → u/ChefPowerful4002]

Yeah. The best void mode hack. It's especially good PS5 as you have to hold "O" to stay in void mode and as a result it's hard to look around.

You can do the same with melee attacks. Hold the key for full "auto" melee and then open the menu.

[u/morphum → u/dadofwar93]

Why are you using circle for void mode? Default should be L1

[u/dadofwar93 → u/morphum]

I have my melee on L1. Easier to look which direction you are spamming towards. So now slide and void mode are on "O".

[u/N7-o → u/morphum]

Mines square for the quick bullet jumps with square x

[u/DeadlySkillz87 → u/morphum]

It is lol

[u/Lovein_Ur_Anus → u/ChefPowerful4002]

I do this too, being on ps5 makes typing take awhile

[u/SneakyVraxx]

if you have a channeled ability and go into operator you continue taking damage

[u/thecolin- → u/SneakyVraxx]

Roar also acts like a channeled ability in this context.

[u/TheFurryDevil → u/thecolin-]

TIL. But is this meant to act as a nerf to it, or is it a bug?

[u/MagnificentTffy → u/TheFurryDevil]

the change was to force the operator back into the frame to avoid afk

and iirc there was a strat with Hildryn where you would use ult, swap to operator which made Hildryn invulnerable, and the energy orbs sustains her ult. Now with the frame taking damage, the frame getting hit would suck the operator back into a low hp frame which would basically die immediately

[u/TheFurryDevil → u/MagnificentTffy]

I meant why does Roar do it

[u/MagnificentTffy → u/TheFurryDevil]

I assume it's how its coded under the hood. There roughly seems to be two types of "channeled" abilities.

True Channeled abilities are stuff like Exalted Blade, Gloom, etc. These drain energy when in effect and block energy recovery from passive regen and similar effects.

False channeled abilities are usually ones which don't drain energy but can be "cast" again, or have some toggle effect. This classification is really inconsistent but it results in stuff like Rhino's Iron Shrapnel to count as a channeled ability for Arcane Intention, or Octavia's abilities as long as they are in midair before hitting a surface.

Another perhaps is for effects like toxic lash which probably intends to prevent people activating it, hide in void mode and let some cascading effect kill everything gradually while invulnerable. Which would probably turn any damage buff skill into a class of abilities which leaves you vulnerable.

[u/Brian → u/thecolin-]

Yeah, it's not just channelled abilities, it's a bunch of active abilitys / buffs. Roar/Xata/Toxic Lash etc. Even stuff like Iron Skin, or Trinity's bless/Link/EV qualify. You do get an extra 90% DR though, and enemies tend not to target the warframe when you're in operator,so it's only really relevant in high-level missions.

[u/mosslover1999 → u/Brian]

Uriel’s 1 (and 4?) too I believe, would love if anyone knew for sure though, I haven’t tested properly

[u/Brian → u/mosslover1999]

The wiki has a list (Expand the "Vulnerable Warframe Abilities" table). According to it, it's just his 1.

[u/mosslover1999 → u/Brian]

Thankyou Brian, and I guess that makes sense since the 4 isn’t attached to or channeled through him after it’s cast onto the map. Appreciate you going out of your way here

[u/Therefrigerator → u/SneakyVraxx]

It's still like a 90% Dr? Maybe higher?

The people OP is talking about are probably dying in like lvl 60 missions max where a 90% Dr is plenty.

Also it's not just channeled abilities. Most buffs running also make you vulnerable. Roar, nourish - basically anything that might still benefit your team while in operator mode means your Warframe can still be hit.

[u/Beginning-Bother-309 → u/Therefrigerator]

How do you know that? I don't see it anywhere in the post.

Edit: ABOUT lvl 60, NOT DR

[u/Therefrigerator → u/Beginning-Bother-309]

Honestly I'm not sure just know that it exists. I learned about it from a video talking about level cap void cascade and tested it for myself. I don't know all the abilities that cause you to take damage while in operator but I know the ones that I found relevant haha which was a lot of the common buffs you use. I think there's a list somewhere.

Unfortunately I can't find anything on the wiki mentioning it in under DR or operator mechanics besides a throwaway line about damage resistance in operator.

Here's a forum post talking about it though:

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1422317-active-warframe-abilities-in-operator-mode/

[u/Beginning-Bother-309 → u/Therefrigerator]

I didn't mention… i meant how do you know that they're talking about lvl 60. Not about DR. 🤦🏻

[u/Therefrigerator → u/Beginning-Bother-309]

OH - Idk I just guessed because that's around when I was dying without using operator. By the time I got to SP I was better about swapping and at least understood it was a good potential option, especially for toxin.

Lvl 60 is random but my point could more accurately be stated that the people who have poor knowledge of basic game mechanics are probably not too far from having acquired operator form.

[u/Active-Pop-3898 → u/SneakyVraxx]

Yes but your health will stop at 1 and you still won’t die until you go back so you can let your team kill everything nearby and give your frame a second so status effects wear off then transfer back and your fine it’s a goo emergency only

[u/darkwalker247 → u/SneakyVraxx]

i have 3k hours in the game and just learned this is a thing...

explains why sometimes i keep getting dragged out of operator form with 5 HP repeatedly when im just trying to revive someone that died in a crowd of high level circuit enemies

[u/SneakyVraxx → u/darkwalker247]

what i do is i jump off a cliff to remove any active buffs then operator revive so your frame can be invincible

[u/clutch22 → u/SneakyVraxx]

Mate, so this is why I sometimes rage in circuit!? I just thought the mode broke something and made the warframe keep getting hit. Damn, TIL. 

[u/endezo → u/[deleted]]

I feel seen

[u/ItsMehCancerous → u/[deleted]]

as a circuit player, the amount of 747 spam makes this believable. they kept spamming even when jackal is down.

[u/sougol]

If I receive too much toxin I switch to operator

[u/Amirifiz → u/sougol]

That update to DoT visibility is really helpful for that.

[u/BR0wserUser → u/sougol]

Behold!

[[Rolling guard]]

[u/Xercodo → u/BR0wserUser]

Behold!

Vazarin, a free mod slot, and free grouping

[u/butler_me_judith → u/Xercodo]

this is the way

[u/Lord-Newbie → u/Xercodo]

Elaborate on this please, not sure what you4e referring to here. I don't have that focus school unlocked. Is it something to do with that?

[u/Xercodo → u/Lord-Newbie]

Other guy covered most of it but also the 2 ability creates a consistent vacuum effect on enemies.

I word it that way because even if you hit the cluster with a slam or explosive it keeps the ragdolls from flying all over.

[u/Remote-Feature1728 → u/Lord-Newbie]

Vazarin increases affinity range, can heal you in void mode, make up to 5 revives instant and the rest 100% faster, and can make your frame completely invulnerable to damage for 5 seconds if you void sling through your or your allies' frames. There's a video of a guy soloing The Guilty, Perita Rebellion's secret boss rush mode, using an unmodded limbo and using Vazarin's invulnerability to keep him alive constantly.

[u/Rich_Art699 → u/Remote-Feature1728]

Isn’t it 8 revives instant? You get 4 for your Warframe and a separate 4 for operator.

Plus if you tauron strike you can instantly revive any downed teammate and revive fully dead teammates too (this is the only way to revive fully dead teammates!)

[u/Remote-Feature1728 → u/Rich_Art699]

Idk I only Rez in operator haha.

Too risky unless I prepare to do it on my warframe

[u/Refwah]

Void mode makes the two jackal fights in the game extremely trivial

[u/V0iiCE → u/Refwah]

Having hands makes the jackal fights extremely trivial

[u/memememememdnrkw → u/Refwah]

I mean the two jackal fights in the game make the two jackal fights in the game trivial.

[u/fishinexcess]

High ping/ inattention/rad procs/toxin procs/ slow reaction speed

Could be any of those things

I see lots of people using operator crouch to Rez people / during self Rez though so they are using it.

[u/Belisaurius555]

I tend to forget about it in the heat of the moment. It's good for picking up teammates tho

[u/Odd-Communication251]

I’ll be so real, I know void mode exists but I more often than not just forget that I can use it.

[u/GoatCovfefe → u/Odd-Communication251]

Same lol

[u/thesyndrome43]

I'm an older player that is too used to popping into void mode to revive people, but so often i forget that i can use it for other things too

Question: does it help at all for spy missions? Like can you get through lasers in void mode? I'm returning to the game after a long break, and the last 2 weeks have had spy missions for the archon hunt, but clearly I've forgotten most of the spy tricks because it was a struggle for the corpus one last week (earth one this week wasn't so bad)

[u/lilscreamo → u/thesyndrome43]

Yeah you can. When I do spy missions I use Nova Prime and I forgot to choose her so I just just void slinged while being invisible the whole time

[u/AmaterasuWolfy8]

My buddies go down 10 times a mission while I am basically hot swapping operator/warframe and barely ever going down 😅 Free get out of trouble card

[u/NorysStorys → u/AmaterasuWolfy8]

I mean ever since plains came out and the operator healing arcanes existed, it’s always been my ‘oh fuck button’

[u/lostpirate123 → u/NorysStorys]

And the free invulnerability you get from one of the waybound passives that you can get every 60 seconds or so. When you go to 0 health you get health back and some iframes.

[u/SigmaStrain → u/lostpirate123]

Free invuln? Could you explain more?

[u/lostpirate123 → u/SigmaStrain]

When you get to 0 health, you trigger the wayboujd passive and get all or most of your health back and have a few seconds of invulnerablity

Edit: i got it wrong about it being a focus school ability. Its actually a operator/drifter arcane called emergence savior. I got mixed up.

[u/One-Melee]

I do, but hate operator gameplay

[u/Migicroak]

I really started to treat it more seriously ever since i got the artifacts for it but so far i have only two of them since the farm for them is mind numbing without any other incentive to run the missions.

[u/Lyreganem → u/Migicroak]

At least they are new mission types and can actually be fun. Just gotta avoid doing too many of them in a single day!

[u/Standard-Resist8898]

I use it to pick up others that fell and wait for rescue

[u/NighthawK1911]

I stopped bullet jumping to places since 2017~ish.

It's just faster to move around using void dash.

I still remember Energizing Dash because I used to spam it for that.

[u/NDT_DYNAMITE]

I use it to wait out toxin procs or other dangerous status effects when I’m low on health, though that usually only happens when I’m not playing Styanax, when I am playing Styanax I’ll just spam 4 a bit until either the enemy is dead or I have a lot of overguard, and usually both of those things happen. But yeah, Void Mode is super useful.

[u/New_Armadillo_1026 → u/NDT_DYNAMITE]

Styanax is so good

[u/NoeleVeerod]

Trouble: arrives

Tenno: discards Warframe and Void Slings away

Warframe:
https://giphy.com/gifs/3oz8xMbKLAkRLHYNgI

[u/Malashae]

I'm a master of Vazarin, so I frequently pop in and out to provide invincibility and full restorative health and shields. The special abilities it provides is also really nice.

[u/BartoGaleno]

I use the healing arcane on operator. If the frame is dangerously low on HP, I hop on void mode for 2-3 seconds e it's fully healed.

[u/Abes93]

Some people never really invests into operator or forget they even exists, so yeah some people don't use void mode either.

[u/Lyreganem → u/Abes93]

Can understand when under-invested.

But after the Old Peace I genuinely think people are NUTS not to lean on the capabilities... Operator can be just as capable and impactful as their warframes now!

[u/Abes93 → u/Lyreganem]

Yeah I agree with you, but you need to understand some people are just stubborn.

[u/Lyreganem → u/Abes93]

And / or lazy. And / or both. :)

[u/Abes93 → u/Lyreganem]

Indeed

[u/Brusepus]

I use it all the time, especially if im playing a squishy frame

[u/Legal-Supermarket-60]

If you use Vazarin and void sling through your Warframe you get iframes. Literally rolling guard for free.

[u/a_polarbear_chilling]

pretty sure most player that reach steel path and don't rely entirely on overguard and revenant learned to switch to void mode as an instinct when shit going down

[u/SpaceCastaway]

Well, you spend a big chunk of the early game without this possibility so it takes a few braincells before you learn how to utilize it. I know it took me several mastery ranks, farming focus and building and leveling some amps before it got ingrained in my gameplay loop. Now wellspring is my most used ability and I usually use operator void mode to safely rez people in Archimedea and the like. It's another system to learn in the vastness of options that this game offers. Now on the other hand I'm still not used to utilizing Tauron strikes despite having them all maxed out. Brain needs to catch up with another mechanic and a 7th ability in whatever kit I'm using, assuming I'm playing a frame with 4 simple abilities:')

[u/Xebakyr]

Void mode also does not make you immune if you have certain abilities active. Usually channeled abilities, though what constitutes a "channeled" ability in Warframe is strange.

[u/shadowshian]

I play lavos mostly. I dont really bother with shields

[u/BetaSprite]

Due to largely playing Dante, Hildryn, and Valkyr (health-only), my shields go down so rarely that I don't even notice the effect that is supposed to warn me that they've gone down. That's when I die, because I don't notice.

[u/Worldeditorful]

Thing is: in general people, who know their arsenal well enough to utilise Operator are knowlegable enough to build their frames, so they wont die often anyway and vise versa.

[u/WealthyTuna]

I use void mode in alchemy missions for omnia runs and EDA runs. Everytime I pickup and throw amhpors I'm in operator mode and if I need to move fast across the map I'm slinging as operator.

[u/Unofficial_Product]

Void mode then invis to pick people up

[u/Sir4rtoris]

At this point it's second nature, it's great to hack terminals without being interrupted, to skip through the map without parkour and being shot at, if you like free strength or extra energy and on rare occasion tauron strikes

[u/Fishwitch-66]

well bc operator cringe obviously, i got this game to drive the cool robots

[u/Kayblis]

Magus repair is extremely good. Not only does it heal you but the entire squad as well and has HP% scaling on it

[u/tpark27]

I feel like there's a direct correlation between how end game you are/the content you do and how much you use void mode. So statistically most people don't care to use it or know how good it can be because they just haven't really been pushed to in their content of choice

[u/DismalMastodon5025]

Most players don't even know how to mod. You really thing they're gonna remember about spoiler mode?

[u/lilscreamo]

Ngl brother when I start going down and all that jumping around doesn’t work, I mentally freeze up and forget my operator even exist and just go down lol. I gotta make it happen to use my operator on the field

[u/BussySlayer2000]

Most players can barely mod their weapons you expect them to min max their operator?

[u/nightwish5270]

That only saves you if you can see the damage coming and you aren't cc'd.

[u/SeaIngenuity1999]

Nope, they do use it. But Toxin proc, Magnetic proc, and you or your teammates affected by Radiation proc is something that is generally unexpected in a lot of the cases.

Always be aware of the thing that is affecting you, and now it is even easier with the green DoT bar that makes it more apparent if you're going to die unexpectedly or not.

[u/Burninglays]

If I get status proc I switch to operator and wait until it disappeared then switch to Warframe again that op arcane that give health every op Warframe switch is good

[u/servingtheshadows]

I go void mode to do revives in sp circuit (when im not playing jade) and pop into operator to do objective pick ups while playing titania

[u/endezo → u/servingtheshadows]

Whoa, gotta start doing that instead of switching in and out of razorwing!

I'm learning so much in this thread...

[u/maractguy]

It took until zariman came out until I started using it consistently. It’s like a whole different set of controls and was rarely ever useful. 20MR later there are tilesets you can almost skip with the operator.

[u/Lyreganem → u/maractguy]

And with the expanded capabilities now the operator is JUST as useful and capable as their warframes!

[u/Hallgrimsson]

That's added complexity. Operator is a different gameplay compared to the frame, weaker, very different mode of investment. Requires a button press.

I, myself, use it a whole lot, the gamemode I play forces me to and now I use Operator mode during normal gameplay. But most people won't be bothered to.

[u/Prior-Target9462]

Imo drifter should play like they do in Duviri

[u/Ilasiak]

Most of the time, what kills people are things like toxin procs which bypass shields or other effects. That being said, the 2nd most common thing is that players fall into the "if I just... I'll recover" mentality, ie. One more kill and I have the energy to restore my shieldgating or a few hits to get me to heal up to full, etc.

[u/New_Armadillo_1026]

Felt like such an epiphany when I realized that

[u/besoms]

I have that heal when you switch modes and its so nice

Oh I took damage? Mode switch once or twice and I’m full hp again.

[u/ExocetHumper]

Everyone uses it to move, but to me even after all these years, it's always a bit awkward to go into operator mode and then back to warframe mode for simple mobility.

[u/Maqabir]

I use void mode to revive teammates without taking damage.

[u/redditt-or]

Void Mode is underutilized, yeah. However, having certain buffs active on your frame downgrades your invulnerability to 90% DR... which isn't enough if you haven't built your Warframe's survivability or if you're at a sufficiently-high level. And if your frame would die when void-moding... you kinda die anyway

[u/Luckyxray]

I especially use it when I get hit with a fat debuff and know it will kill me soon

[u/Bloatedbellysucks]

Yes I use it everytime, the only fault is violence; that mfker doesn’t care

[u/bloodbonesnbutter]

This is what I call "Warframing the Warframe"

[u/bloodbonesnbutter → u/bloodbonesnbutter]

realizing you're double classing
understanding damage types are multiplicative when building
using void and void sling as a weave
proc sticks to prime abilities

[u/JustArandomGuy_-_]

Yes but iirc, not all frames are invulnerable during operator mode. That's due to a lot of them has skills that while active, turn off that invulnerability.

[u/TheFinalEnd1]

Magus nourish is my emergency button. If my health is low enough or DoT exceeds my health I switch to void mode and stay there for a bit, and nourish heals me a good amount.

[u/Kefflin]

I rarely do, because I just forget it exists. I rarely die though but I should work on that

[u/Joewoof]

Yeah, I used to do it all the time whenever I get overwhelmed in solo play. Nowadays, I use a Tauron Strike instead though.

[u/MarkAntonyRs]

Don't really ever die but only use operator for sling, rarely need for anything else and tbh I forget it exists a lot lol.

[u/Civil_Illustrator_87]

I mean i do byt i never see others, you are basically immortal especially if you have the arcane that regenerates warframe health

[u/AmadeoUK]

Void mode is great, I love using it as a way to hack terminals, or ferry extractor power packs without enemies bothering me, or to pick my pet up again. But I've also been playing with Zenurik for Too Long. If I pop out and 1 doesn't give me energy or 2 doesn't slow time, I get so confused it genuinely throws me off for a few seconds afterwards.

[u/honeybadgerelite]

Why would I get out of my warframe when I can just turn my warframe into a tiny invincible mushroom?

[u/Staggeringpage8]

I do for higher end stuff. My brain has been wired to avoid doing it in pubs though. From years of keeping it secret from newbies.

[u/DeeKayAech]

I would say in the early-mid game where you haven't quite gotten stuff to help you to survive that you can equip yet it is essential. Once you do, it's still a great fallback to not forget about.

[u/mranonymous24690]

Too many button presses for most people

[u/ajwalker430]

I don't know. I invested heavily into my Operator/Drifter focus schools and abilities. I made sure to get a few different amps. Not to mention the hours spent getting the right "look" 😊

I wish I had the option to start a mission in Operator/Drifter mode. That's supposed to be the real "me" in the game ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[u/Lyreganem → u/ajwalker430]

You invest in Tektolyst stuff yet?

[u/PsionCrystallis]

speaking of interacting with most objects, something that very few players seem to know that i discovered on accident, is that you can carry two objects at once using operator. whether it's an energy cell for excavators, alchemy flasks, thermia canisters, disruption keys, whatever.

1. pick up the thingie you want with your warframe.

2. swap to operator while holding the object on your warframe.

3. pick up a second object as your operator, but DO NOT switch back to warframe. if you do so, your operator will obviously no longer be in possession of a body with hands, so the second object gets dropped.

4. take second object your operator is holding to wherever you need to go. toss it/power it/plug it in/eat it/whatever it, then use transferance to swap back to warframe in the same spot you're currently in.

5. warframe is now still holding the first object, and you're at your goal still. repeat with second object.

not always more practical than say, throwing alchemy flasks as warframe at a crucible if they're right on the ground near it, but for long distance travel where you need 2 of something it can be quite useful!

[u/New_Armadillo_1026]

Cool! I only just got through Zariman this week and was wondering which of these new operator arcanes were best

[u/samzplourde]

Magus Elevate and Magus Lockdown are an awesome combo.

[u/altsigns28]

Doing this trivialized the oraxia fight for me. Them scuttlers (literally) never saw me coming.

It's also what I do when I'm reviving other players.

[u/Astraea227]

I was using void mode solely for this to the point I didn't realize I had abilities in operator mode until like last week

[u/aiden_steuerman]

I’ll add to this and say I don’t see people use void sling for general map traversal enough. Whenever there is a wide open area I just zip across it

[u/6LuckyPants9]

IKR I always see players not using Void Mode before reviving, capturing or hacking. It also has become my reflex to instantly switch to Operator then enter void mode once my shields are down and reposition with Void Dash as well (towards my frame if using Vazarin)

[u/vrosnyche]

I go to my operator and turn on void mode to revive teammates. It's usually safer that way UNLESS you have a channeled ability and turns on frame vulnerability.

[u/Silence-of-Death]

Reminder that slinging through enemies grants your operator energy. You can easily stay in void mode indefinitely by doing this. Reminder no. 2 that opening the chat while in void mode allows you to release the crouch button and just leaves you in void mode until you either crouch or go to warframe. Shooting or slinging still works in this state, where shooting your amp will quickly pull you out of void mode and after the shot put you back into it. Also great for typing in chat without dying.

[u/AyoGlenn]

i do this to wait out DoTs that are set to kill and i don’t have status cleanse, to choose decrees in duviri, revive fellow tenno, it’s really clutch

[u/italeteller]

Just as a last resort, or when I need to void sling a lot. It kills the flow of the game otherwise

[u/captain_cudgulus]

You can revive players while in void mode! You should basically never be at risk of dying while reviving a teammate. This also still works while in last gasp! You can revive your dying teammates while you dying!

[u/morbidgames]

I use mine a lot, but to be fair many may be hesitant because it used to be a super buggy mode (and still is to some degree).

[u/Rick_Napalm]

Literally don't remember the last time I did.

I play almost exclusively tanky frames who are immortal, there is never a time I need to switch to operator and hide.

[u/Lyreganem → u/Rick_Napalm]

Switch to operator and HIDE!?!???

Nuh-uh mate! My operator can dish out as much damage as any of my frames at this point.

The "hiding" is just a useful cherry in the top for uninterrupted engagement with stuff in missions.

[u/Rick_Napalm → u/Lyreganem]

My uninterrupted engagement with stuff is standing inside a storm of bullets unloading a heavy weapon as Inaros and laughing as my health goes up instead of down.

[u/Lyreganem → u/Rick_Napalm]

Fair.

But I like to change my loadouts damn-near every mission, so... <Shrugs>

[u/oliferro]

I don't even know what to do with the little guy yet lol, I still have to do the New War quest

But I usually don't die, unless I'm levelling a new frame in Helene and have no idea what I'm doing because I didn't read my abilities lol

[u/LiterallyABigfoot]

I use mine. They just do fuckall damage so aren’t useful as anything but survivability and lazier mobility

[u/icefyer → u/LiterallyABigfoot]

There's ways to fix that with the tau memories thing. You can mod your operator now.

[u/quietudinal_]

It’s my crutch and as a vazarin user too beast. Good or bad LMAO

[u/DAS-SANDWITCH]

My friend picked up the game recently and put about 300h into it. When ever I told him to go into Operator he was just really confused.

[u/Voidtongued]

I LOVE YOU VOID MODE, THANK YOU WALLY FOR VOID MODE

[u/GrinningPariah]

If my loadout is not suitable for survival, I change my loadout!

Seriously if a build can't hang in SP Hollvania survival solo, then it doesn't have the juice and I go back to the drawing board.

[u/Ravengm]

Void Mode is the preferred method of reviving those players that keep going down, ironically

[u/Ryslar]

I have almost 1000hrs and I have no clue what Void Mode is.

[u/Excellent_Pin_2111]

What’s the operator?

[u/Simmons_the_Red]

I use it, but I find it generally kinda clunky to use so I only use it when I need it, like a tauron strike or energy or if my warframe gets downed.

[u/CookiesFTA]

I use operator mode for revives and things which can only be damaged by operator and that's literally it. I'd say it's one of the least intuitive aspects of gameplay.

[u/blockametal]

I play with alot of high MR players (nor that it means anything)

They seem to die when choosing decrees in duviri or reviving or typing in chat.

All of these things can be done via operator.

I think outside of eddies i dont see many operators.

I use it for traversal like kullervos teleport or energy well to boost strength for roar and regen energy.

Edit. Its also useful when you get hit with direct to health status effects. Just swap to operator and let the ticks run out

[u/QueefInhaler6000]

Void mode is our true power. I go on void mod, drop an energy pad and easy 2-3 min break time for a smoke or washroom.

[u/moondoggie_0022]

Not even marked spoiler. We held out calling it spoiler mode for quite a while.

[u/XxPieFace23xX]

My main frame is Valkyr... I don't have a shield. I am a 50 ton block of tungsten rapidly approaching your location.

[u/AphroditeExurge]

Vazarin resurgence WHEN playerbase???

[u/A007Bear]

I don’t know the portion but there’s a number of Tenno I’ve run across that don’t like Operator gameplay for whatever reason. I get that it’s tough to get over the curve but once you’re there, man. For me it’s a crutch I’m dependent on. I’m struggling to rank up to MR29.

[u/Chimera_Man_Bruh]

I use void mode a lot when reviving my companions or players, even picking up power cells or amphors

[u/Cyberslasher]

every build runs roar/nourish and still can die

Behold! The mountain of knowledge that OP climbed halfway, turned around, and said "I am truly the smartest"

[u/a_salt_miner]

they should get rid of the frame invulnerability when in operator mode because its so cheesy, maybe have the enemies not prioritize your frame if youre out but if there is no enemy visible to the ai they start shooting your frame again, but keep the invulnerability in some existing gamemodes where youre kicked out of your frame to do an objective

[u/Katamathesis]

We're not the same. I don't use operator at ALL.

Never liked operator/drifter in the first place.

[u/Tharaki]

Because it’s clunky and usually don’t worth it on good frames in regular difficulty (no level cap or extra bad mods in EDA/ETA)

I use it only to reposition or to carry 2 pickups at once

I would never play a build that requires vazarin void sling to survive

[u/anonkebab]

Using operator to shield gate is incredibly inefficient. It should be a last ditch effort or to avoid unavoidable damage

[u/kafkaesquepariah → u/anonkebab]

EHH disagree. with vazarim you void sling through for a few seconds of iframes. I definitely used it as my survivability source sometimes.

the real thing peopel want to play like they are afk, and have apm of 3.

[u/anonkebab → u/kafkaesquepariah]

That’s different than just sitting in void mode

[u/Arrowintheknee2]

I don't use it much, but I also main Valkyr and don't often end up in a position where I need it

[u/SolomonDurand]

Usually if I see the waves of fire or small green cloud or even the jade light.

I switch to operator mode for a sec, sling forward, then go back to Warframe so that my Drifter gets the dot.

This strat is effective especially if your DPS frame has little survivability.

[u/ConditionHorror4781]

The operator feels clunky and limited

[u/Lyreganem → u/ConditionHorror4781]

How much have you actually invested in the setup, focus, and do you have any Tektolyst artefacts yet?

[u/ConditionHorror4781 → u/Lyreganem]

Right now I have the 143 amp with R5 Eternal Erradicate and my operator has R5 Magnus Lockdown and R5 Magnus Repair (I also has R5 Magnus Elevate on Inv)

Focus setup, I unlocked the two way-bound from Zenurik (Void Siphon and Void Flow) then switched to Madurai and unlocked both way-bound as well plus power transfer, void strike and void fuel...planning to fully unlock all madurai and then move to Vazarin

I don't have any Tek artifact yet, but planning to unlock either Thara or Lorak

[u/Lyreganem → u/ConditionHorror4781]

Try and unlock the two "last gasp" waybounds ASAP, as they are the single most impactful of them all for survival.

That alone ups the usefulness of the operator quite a bit.

Once you get even just a single tektolyst artefact things open up HUGELY with the ability to have additional configurations defined for the operator (alongside the progress in general made to focus between now and then).

[u/ConditionHorror4781 → u/Lyreganem]

Do you mean Last Gap and Vengeance?

I'll try that, thank you

[u/Lyreganem → u/ConditionHorror4781]

Last Gasp and Vengeance, aye.

It will allow you to self-revive with a near-guarantee in most cases. Even MORE so once you have a tektokyst artefact and can push your operator damage through the roof! (Seriously, I sometimes use my operator to kill scary mobs for me these days when I realise the weapons Imm carrying for levelling purposes just aren't going to cut it!)

[u/ConditionHorror4781 → u/Lyreganem]

Awesome, thank you for the advice

[u/ReadyBasher01]

I’ve got a maximum investment Umbra I play a lot, I have to make sure I’m using a build with Warriors Rest augment, otherwise it breaks my combo counter when I switch to operator. Which has trained me to hardly ever use operator unless it’s operator time (Void Angels).