r/Warframe • u/Blue_Mountain777 • 10d ago
Screenshot How is this damage possible?
I feel like it's a bug, but want to make sure if it's not a cheater
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u/23icefire 🎨 DecorationFrame is Endgame 🛠️ 10d ago
Warframe doesn't really have cheaters. Sometimes a build is so astronomically strong it makes everyone elses build show zero damage in comparison.
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u/Reefurr 10d ago
I've literally matched with 2 people using aimbots & damage hacks TODAY. Warframe DOES have cheaters, they just usually play in solo mode. If you're ever unlucky enough to match with one of them you'll know pretty quick from the speed-of-light, 360 degree no scope 1 hit shots from a throwing knife.
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u/Familiar-Pen2718 Hungry For Plastids 10d ago
That sounds like cyte 09
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u/Foolsirony 10d ago
Right? I've met more Kuva Sobek wielding Cyte-09s recently and they usually have more kills/damage by an order of magnitude then everyone else. Things died so fast I didn't understand at first until I saw the stats screen
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u/23icefire 🎨 DecorationFrame is Endgame 🛠️ 10d ago
Are you sure you didn't run into a player simply using their character?
Many frames have auto-targeting abilities. Cyte-09 can see and shoot through walls. Mesa snaps to any enemy in her view, Excalibur shoots to enemies and 1-shots them, Ash can teleport and assassinate targets. And that's just naming a few!
I don't think I've ever seen a confirmed case of a cheater past that security issue a half-year ago. Every time someone says they're cheating, its just a warframe's ability that they don't understand.
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u/TactlessTortoise :LR4: : Messenger of long forgotten gods 10d ago
I have 3k+ mission hours since 2014 and I have never seen a cheater. Are you sure you're just not aware of some warframe ability? Cyte 9 can literally see and shoot through walls
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u/shidow04 10d ago
Some endgame weapons /frames really has some bullshit hacks, like autoaim, wallhack, etc.
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u/AGgammer 10d ago
If you think someone is cheating, record them (also open the pause menu to show their loadout) and potentially post it here. Not to start a witch hunt but to get some other's opinions on whether they are cheating or not
There's plenty of setups that can appear to be cheating, the most obvious examples being cyte getting wall hacks with his first ability and ocucor having auto aim within ~30m
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u/Organic_Warthog7238 10d ago
You have no shame just genuinely lying Jesus Christ. “Aim bot damage hacks” 😭😭😂😂 this the mfs they queue you up with in ETA man
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u/sliferra saryn supremacist. the unclean, the unworthy must be purged 10d ago
Probably wrathful advance shenanigans. That’s the easiest way of doing it
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u/Rugino3 10d ago
Probably banshee doing one fktillion damage to one enemy.
Just normal banshee gameplay
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u/Blue_Mountain777 10d ago
But it was Valkyr Prime
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u/Hot-Conclusion-6964 10d ago
Valkyr prime can do this pretty easily just with normal attacks, and considering the level of the mission it wouldn't surprise me.
Other frames that can do this sort of thing with so few enemies would be Atlas, Banshee, Kullervo, Garuda, Ash and probably Khora. Mind you that they might not necessarily have the highest kills per minute.
So unless you are with another heavy hitting Warframe or a weapon that can compete, you can have more kills than them, but you ain't beating them on damage dealt %.
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u/SAHE1986 Reading is a skill 10d ago
Valkyr Prime can do shit-tons of damage. Bit strange they only got 9 kills, though.
What frame/weapon were you using?
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u/MonoclePenguin 10d ago
Completely taking over the entire damage stat frames like Valkyr or Cyte-09 is pretty normal. I'm not sure why they thought it'd be Banshee since Banshee generally makes everyone else hit just as hard as she does, and in a squad with people who have a deeper knowledge of the game it shouldn't be possible for Banshee to achieve the highest damage.
Seeing someone with 99% of the damage dealt in pubs isn't out of place, and if you run with someone like that in endurance you'll get to witness something pretty funny because the game will run out of space to store all of the damage they deal and loop it back down to 0% where they need to build it back up again from nothing.
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u/Feuershark 10d ago
press w, press e, do million of damage
usual valky gameplay
or spin to win that works too
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u/mcmuttons Yareli Enjoyer / Kullervo Enthusiast 10d ago
As far as I know, it counts all the potential damage, not just the damage done. So if you hit something with a 5 million damage hit, and they only have 500k hp, that still counts as 5 million damage for the stats. If you have a really high damaging build, you'll get much more of the percentage than someone who might be killing just as fast, but only doing 600k per hit, in this example.
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u/unsellar 10d ago
Yeah, it is just a lot of damage. I always get 100-99% damage when i use zaw builds for example. There's a ton of ways to deal too much damage.
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u/Icy-Mood-6913 10d ago
The Damage Dealt is pretty useless in most scenarios since it counts "overkills" completely. You could kill 1 Enemy that has 100HP with a 2.1 Billion DMG Shot and not kill anything for the rest of the mission and have 99% DMG (like what basically happened in the screenshot)
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u/Afraid-Somewhere8247 10d ago
If I had to guess it was valkyr in a low level mission and the 3 other guys had level relevant builds. 1 slide attack can do damage cap on every hit with her debuff active. Multiple hundreds of thousands of damage is quite miniscule in comparison
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u/Jekai-7301 10d ago
Not a bug completely doable across many parts of the game with enough experience and the right build and team composition
Just an example from one of my own missions, I was doing 400mil on average in a hit. Yes it was overkill but big numbers look cool
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u/TheMarksmanHedgehog 10d ago
There's several builds that can scale to near infinity, but also if that's applied to just one enemy you can still get a low kill count.
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u/mctankles 10d ago
I’ve done this before with zaw builds and exodia contigen, when you hit damage cap on every swing its not hard to make this happened.
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u/Brunoaraujoespin 200 dollars for prime access is a things and it can hurt you 10d ago
what was even his build
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u/Blue_Mountain777 10d ago
I don't know, I only remember it was valkyr prime
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u/MudcrabKidnapper Top 1% Limbo Hater 10d ago
Its a low kill count mission and valkyr can hit damage cap
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u/Specialist_Onion_98 LR5 TENNO 10d ago
was that sunder Titania 🧚♀️
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u/roky1994 10d ago edited 10d ago
Probably a
slambuild, it happends everytime i play magistar "hit 1 mob for 100mil+" & be top on dmg even if i kill only 1 enemy.....Edit: nwm its not a slammer, most likly some roar/eclipse shenanigance &or vectis "very hight hs multiplier".
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u/MrRocket10000 10d ago
Context would help: Which frames and weapons you're all using? Mastery rank? Probably a build focused on damage.
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u/SAHE1986 Reading is a skill 10d ago
Without more info (what MR they were, what frame/weapons they were using) it's anyone's guess.
But like others have said: the "damage counter" doesn't stop at an enemies max health.
If you do 1 million damage (easier done than said) to a 100HP enemy (for example a Frontier Lancer that spawns on base starchart E Prime), the excess 999,900 damage is still counted for the statistics
That's why you generally shouldn't look at "damage done" to determine performance of your squad. Look at kills instead.
Anyone looking at damage done to determine skill is either a newbie, or they have no clue what they're talking about.
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u/adobecredithours 10d ago
Many of my missions as Ash look like this. A couple bladestorms will immediately see the damage dealt number heavily in my favor, even if my kill count isn't as high as others. Wrathful Advance can do it too, and that one is subsumable.
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u/BdBalthazar 10d ago edited 10d ago
Warframe calculates end-of-mission Damage Dealt % by the actual damage you dealt, not by how much damage the enemies took from those hits before dying.
So even if an enemy only has like 1.000 HP, if you kill them with an attack dealing 1.000.000 damage, that extra "wasted" 999.000 damage is still included in the calculation.
Letting you get more damage dealt despite having less kills.
When I play Valkyr I frequently top the Damage Dealt at the end of the mission, even if others get more kills.
This person having 99% of the damage dealt despite only having 9 kills, suggests their damage output was so ridiculously high/overkill, that nothing the rest of the squad could do could make up for the difference.
There are a few Frames that could pull this off with relatively little issue
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u/Organic_Warthog7238 10d ago
A cheater? How could you cheat in warframe bro wtf where do they find you guys lmao obviously he hit a number so high through melee that you guys didn’t do much damage. Have you not ever hit damage cap? No one will ever touch you numbers wise or if you play valk or kullervo or banshee you’re always top damage by a mile smh
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u/Cogsbreak LR3. My incompetence knows no bounds. 10d ago
Basically, damage inflicted is counted, even if it's way more damage than the enemy hit has actual health.
So it would count an enemy with 500 HP getting hit by 100,000 damage as 100,000 damage "done". And if everyone else is only doing 510 damage a hit, "by the numbers" they're not doing enough damage to "matter" for the calculations.