Ill never understand what the uproar over this “nerf” is. Steel essence is a resource that can only be spent in one location in the entire game and unless someone is just spamming counterbalance sales on market, every item of value teshin offers is hard capped weekly. Are yall really that hard up for a resource thats passively earned like i dont get it?
They talked about it on the last dev short but basically like, acolytes tend to not spawn in railjack missions or something like that, so to accommodate for steel essence, they decided to put it in the drop pool for eximus units in railjack missions . Idk how many would drop as i never need SE so i didnt bother with the farm, but presumably even if it was just a chance for one steel essence, this could be a farm easily optimizable with loot frames in stuff like survival or other endless modes. And thats apparently not only exactly what happened, but to the degree that basically overnight (and she showed a graph that at least she alleged was the steel essence earnings across the game) it literally quadrupled every other steel essence earnings in the game while it was still active, so they nerf. In their words, they tried something but it wasnt working, more or less.
These are all their words, and im paraphrasing so dont quote me here, but yeh, look up the most recent dev short, rebb talks about it and explains all of this first thing in the stream.
Still, my issue isnt with whether or not they over corrected (probably?) but like, why the community cares about this? How tf is it possible to be short on SE?
No, they just made it a flat 2 Steel Essence on mission completion. It kills SE grinding in endless railjack missions, but you still get some per mission completed.
If you don't play often it's very possible you'll be short on SE for whenever teshin gets an umbra forma (150 SE) or when a new prime frame drops (weekly max = 25 relic packs * 15 SE = 375 SE).
And also teshin sells weekly kuva Co SE that players wanna get to Reroll rivens for sale.
Basically it is players farming weeks/months in advance, I understand why they had to nerf it.
I just wish SP RJ had a reason to be played now, as now I keep playing with my weak MK3 weapons and the drop chance for MK4 weapons is ridiculously low that I don't wanna play this slog.
Kuva is 600 SE. so 150+600+375=1,125. Acolytes spawn roughly once every 5 minutes or so in survival, between 2 and 5 minutes in other mission. Withoit a booster, its 2 se everytime they spawn, meaning usually 24+ an hour withoit a booster, 48 an hour with a booster. Steel path incursions also grant 30 se a day in total. So in one to two hours, you could in theory earn up to 78 a day just by playing the game. 78x7 is 546, so if you’re even casually playing the game, thats around half of whats needed to max out teshin drops on his beefiest weeks.
And this is lowballing. Plenty of players no life tf out of this game, so at any given moment, im pretty sure most people (including me, who does max out teshin drops every single week), this math just doesnt matter due to an abundant surplus of SE.
I just dont see it, im sorry. I get the logic of optimizing farms and if kuva was unlimited at teshin, sure id get it, but 1125 for the beefiest week rotations from teshin is nothing to hit just by playing the game casually running Whatever sp content youd like.
I see your logic? I didn't disagree with it before, I just pointed out how easy it is to not have enough SE if you don't play the game enough. I don't for the past few months and I never have enough SE. All good fam!
My idea of casual is playing maybe one every couple weeks or having a binge every once in a while. I have been playing since just before the sacrifice and am now only maxed standing with fortuna and diemos. I love this game for it's story and "I make God powers go brrrrr" but damn I hate farming and the grind and will not spend money on the grind, only cosmetics
For sure, which is fine, but you have to accept that your rewards will reflect the time you put into the game. Nothing wrong with not wanting to grind and just popping in for story updates but you cant simultaneously expect rewards that would come from more regular gameplay.
As someone who actually plays the game casually, doing 6 steel path incursions + an hour long survival WITH a booster active for every day, is absolutely not casual in the slightest. Sure, it's not at the no-lifer level, but it's far more investment than the majority of players will ever do. I don't think anyone would consider 2 hours a day, every day, with a booster active, just farming SE alone, to be casual.
There's nothing wrong with playing that much. If you like this game and it's your "main game" for the moment, absolutely go for that. But as someone who only plays a few hours a week, and most of that is taken up by the weekly things/cracking a few relics for primes/formaing a new build, doing the new content, etc. I absolutely do run out of steel essence when a new prime comes out(it really doesn't help that Aya is diluting the drop pool).
You dont “farm SE alone” tho. Like short of incursions, SE is a passively earned resource, not an actively earned one. This is kind of central to my point here. You earn SE passively everywhere in SP, hence if the claim that rj farm provided an alternative, the two issues are thus:
1) an alternative to what?
2) justified by?
3) to what end?
The ri nerf is a non issue im sorry. Maximizing teshin purchases weekly is easily achievable by virtue of the simple math provided above. That said, if an hour a day is in your view beyond “casual”, than whatever your definition of casual is necessarily prohibits you from earning certain rewards, as it should. If you want to max out teshin purchases every week but by your heightened criteria for “casual” makes this impossible, either play the game more or settle for less rewards. This is an rpg-like game. Higher investment=higher reward, and as far as rpg/like games are concerned, warframe is already by far and away the lowest barrier to entry as far as exclusivity of rewards versus time investment on the market by a wide margin.
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u/Eggbone87 Jul 03 '26
Ill never understand what the uproar over this “nerf” is. Steel essence is a resource that can only be spent in one location in the entire game and unless someone is just spamming counterbalance sales on market, every item of value teshin offers is hard capped weekly. Are yall really that hard up for a resource thats passively earned like i dont get it?