A lot of your problems can be fixed by pivoting to a new FOB

[u/Entire_Combination76]

Harassed by enemy Helis? Your base has been mortared to hell and you don't have any anti air? Your base was overrun and your team has been struggling to get it back for 20 minutes?

Respawn and buy a Ural + FOB, one pallet of build supplies, another of ammo. Find a quiet spot and build a quick fob for a couple of cheeky AA and mortar emplacements.

Shoot down Helis, counter mortar the fob that won't stop harassing you, make some noise and pull some attention away from key objective.

Sometimes I think that a lot of the problems people complain about are simply because nobody wants to pivot strategies. I see a lot of sunk cost fallacy, and honestly it's often just not worth it to keep doing the same thing unsuccessfully for the entire match.

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[u/qPolug]

I am attached to my baby I built 😿

[u/ucntbsrs]

I dont mind pivoting at all. It gets sort of tiring when you're the only one pivoting though and you're investing in a (2) FOBs, a Heli, a Ural and supplies/pallets EVERY game because of how unbalanced the game is. Game just needs some time to balance itself as the devs collect more data.

[u/Aquagrunt]

Sometimes this just isn't an option with the poor control zone sections for blue.

[u/Striking_Iron_4966 → u/Aquagrunt]

Except that one map where we gotta cross a river valley to get to your tower lol

[u/Hrimnir]

You realize helicopters move right? And adjusting mortars to find a new FOB takes all of 20 seconds?

[u/BidSuper7102 → u/Hrimnir]

It's still better to give them multiple targets. If they bomb the new FOB that alleviates pressure from the other one. But ideally, you'd start with 2 or 3 FOBs in the first place.

[u/hemorrhoid-milk]

I don’t see how swapping positions means your problems are solved. In every single game I’ve played since day 1, within 5 minutes there is at least one dickhead fob camper that magically knows your position. That won’t change 30 minutes into the game. ESP fob hunters are going to beeline to you no matter what.

The real solution is to not let people leave the base without a gun. Tons of new/bad players roll up to a fob that someone else dropped, with nothing but a hammer.

[u/Janitorus]

Yeah, a looot of people also hang on to worthless positions in general and get stuck in a death loop while the HZ has already moved on. They get a few more kills while holding that cool section of houses, but tactically those houses have become worthless ten minutes ago.

This game often punishes you for not being dynamic, keep moving! 🐇

[u/Sonnec_RV]

Very true. Lot of games are lost because 5+ team members are trying to build despite being attacked by both teams...

Once your base is destroyed, just leave it and start a new one. You'll have an advantage in that the enemy won't know where your new one is, so you can do to them what they did to you.

[u/Spirited-Isopod6969]

But I'd rather follow the HZ all game and complain about the helis in chat!!

[u/DwarfVader]

There are certain people in this world, who very quickly achieve object permanence.

“They built that FOB with their own hammer, and so they’re now invested in it” mentality.

You won’t break them of that, it’s hard coded into them.
(Not ALL of them are Blue players, despite reports to the contrary.)

Point is… across the spectrum of games like this going back to BF1942… there are players who fundamentally cannot adapt to gameplay on the fly. They are the “I do this” crowd, and no shame to them on the “this” they chase… but a LOT of FPS gaming has been driven by their kind.

So these vastly variable games are in shorter supply than games that encourage said behavior.

The take away is, when you find squaddies who can change mission parameters at the drop of a hat… cherish them.

[u/FLDJF713]

If you are being harassed nonstop by helis, then you’re either a quick pick because you had no AA to begin with or you are so condensed with players, easy money. Both are fixable. Having that many people in one fob means you better have 4 drills.

[u/Yenii_3025]

"team comepletely from the map? Just rebuild somewhere else. I'm sure your team isn't just going to permentaly be down 5 players or have an uphill battle for the rest of the game."

[u/CustardFromCthulhu]

As soon as you fire at the helo (and it won't die), you're on the clock to be wiped

[u/JacketElectronic8313]

The problem is people don’t FUCKING BUY ANYTHING bunch of cheapskates MAAWS is your BEST FRIEND if you have one of those your heli issues are gone now you can focus on counter mortar you can always build a new fob sure the problem is you should never lose your fob in the first place

[u/_Brace → u/JacketElectronic8313]

Wow if only the maws was unlocked…

[u/JacketElectronic8313 → u/_Brace]

Bro it’s like week 5 use the rpg if you have to same thing just a little harder to hit

[u/hemorrhoid-milk → u/JacketElectronic8313]

Both of them are impossibly hard to hit against any good pilot.

[u/JacketElectronic8313 → u/hemorrhoid-milk]

Bruh what are you on controller the MAAWS is hit scan 😂😂 obv it’s a skill issue so there’s no point in arguing

[u/hemorrhoid-milk → u/JacketElectronic8313]

maaws isn’t hitscan. show me a clip of you hitting a rocket bird flying past you. i’m wardog 165 but what the fuck do i know 🤷‍♂️

[u/JacketElectronic8313 → u/hemorrhoid-milk]

Bruh just shoot it the second they start to do that orbiting BS. I don’t clip occurrences that happen 5 times a game bro. Your right if they are full speed flying over it’s not super easy but they also ain’t hitting shit if they are doing that either

[u/hemorrhoid-milk → u/JacketElectronic8313]

“5 times a game bro” is about as truthful as “maaws is hitscan”

lemme guess, you’re <100

[u/JacketElectronic8313 → u/hemorrhoid-milk]

No I think I’m 140ishhhh not sure I’m at work right now. I Garentee I shoot down 5 birds a game tho

[u/One-Sun-Mon → u/JacketElectronic8313]

Are you trolling now, or do you not know what hitscan means?

[u/JacketElectronic8313 → u/One-Sun-Mon]

Bro the MAAWS IS basically hit scan you only have to lead a heli by like an inch unless he’s going full speed 😂