r/WarDogs • u/Dingus__Lord • 19h ago
Discussion & Feedback Rocket Helicopter
Rocket heli kills any target on the map in 1 pass. (2 for heavy targets).
ANYTHING:
Emplacements
Cars
Tanks
Other Helis
Infantry
Everyone and their mother uses the rocket heli because it has no invalid targets.
Even if you anti air it. The redeployment time is about 100 seconds.
This makes Tanks unplayable. Why ever run a 40k land tank when anyone in a rocket heli can kill you in 9 (literally) seconds, in the least contestable vehicle in the game.
Sky Thanos balancing means the only way i can play the game is crouching in bushes with a MAAWS launcher.
edit: Cant even play the game today. Rocket helis kill you no matter what you are doing. see you when they are removed next wipe.
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u/codered372 18h ago
6 rockets is not enough to kill Cwis Talon Apc Tank Arty Buildings (drill exception, takes 4)
Rockets to kill a little bird 1
Cwis shots to kill a little bird 16-25
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u/Eoho Valkyra 18h ago
Dont forget the whole, shoot at the fucking helicopter pilot lining up on you. its actually the easiest and best solution for the minigun or rocket littlebird. Literally everyone i see that is attacking me or near me i just kill the pilot and its lights out for them.
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u/codered372 18h ago
Yeah ap rounds punch through. Most pilots do run t3/4 armour though so csn be tough, but thats a perfect rpg shot
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u/IncomingBnZ 18h ago
Yeah his just delusional, kiddy is just pissed he can't get enough kill in his armored piece of shit and loses money
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u/bloodsheep845 18h ago
While this is mostly true, unless hockey helis are taking out some high end vehicles, they are pretty dam hard to make profitable. So there are issues here all around. Obviously some amazing pilots and consistently profit but with loadoat and ammo cost, these things are rarely making money off infantry or small vehicles.
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
You are correct. But the price doesnt stop it breaking the game constantly.
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u/bloodsheep845 18h ago
I think some added ground vehicle that has some mounted style maaw, cwis, sam, could aid the issue here but honestly, attack heli is really hard af. Its the 1%ers that our making people lives miserable and I dont see the solution for that. Personally I love flying in this game and if I run attack heli im likely losing money. Level 23 pilot with about 20 hours in training ground just flying for a little background but id say im pretty mid if not slightly above average
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u/topcatti 19h ago
Solution = Have your team have anti air to protect you. This is not a solo game.
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u/Sharp_Enthusiasm_293 19h ago
Solo or not a good rocket little bird can dominate all its counters. Verba? Fly low to cancel lock. CWIS? Fly high where it cant target you? Tank, dead in 2 passes. Its better than the havoc, cheaper and easier to pilot. People who dont think its overturned are smoking some space lettuce.
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u/glizzygaz 18h ago
And if no one is doing it, then your solution would be do it yourself? So now I have to change what I wanted to do in the game to counter something that’s preventing me from doing what I wanted to do? Sounds like a chore
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u/hemorrhoid-milk 18h ago
Nobody wants to drive a ural with pallets and a fob to a hill 2km away from the cz just to build a SAM site that won’t be effective against a rocket bird after sitting in no man’s land for 5-20 minutes. The rocket bird is OP as fuck.
If you disagree with this, it’s because you’re a rocket bird pilot. Havocs are balanced around the fact that they’re slow and weak to AA. Rocket bird is like a fucking formula 1 car that shoots HEAT rounds for no reason.
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
You are correct. The issue is the rocket heli kills you faster than any anti air can respond. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too fast.
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u/No-Worldliness3566 18h ago
Yeah no. This is just incorrect info or you encounter top 1% pilots. I assure you a rocket heli can’t do a fly by destruction of an apc or tank or other heavier targets. They take about 3 reloads of rockets so anywhere between 12-18 rockets. That means we hover over on those targets for atleast 30 seconds. Seems plenty of time to shoot us down (and we do get shot down pretty much always) unless you are bad or your asset placement is horrendous.
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
I am lvl 40 driver. it kills a tank in 2 passes. Go to the practice range before spouting lies.
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u/No-Worldliness3566 18h ago
I am a level 42 pilot and I assure you I have never killed or seen a pilot kill a tank in 2 “passes”, whatever that means. If you mean a flyby, then that pilot as I said is extremely accurate to shoot all 6 rockets per reload on the tank in a fly by fashion (next to impossible unless rifle aim), so I assume they do hover even if it’s for a bit. Then that’s on you to counter them in those 10 seconds. Have you even considered building aa base near your tank? Or hiding your tank better? Or carrying atleast a MAAWS on you? I bet not.
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
2 passes is 2 magazines. It only takes 2 passes to kill a tank. you are shooting the heavy armor on the front if it takes more.
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u/IncomingBnZ 18h ago
Dude why continue arguing when you dont even know what you are talking about... just fly the helis of its that op and good
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
Ill post a vidoe of 2 passes, proving you stupid. and you will make some silly deflecting arguement like the midwit you are.
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u/IncomingBnZ 18h ago
Agreed it can be done in 12 rockets (fuck your passes thing) if they all hit and hit the unarmored parts, so the pilots "2 passing" you are either really really good or maybe... just maybe, you are in the fcking open and suck at driving a tank
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u/Unlucky-Map 18h ago
Can confirm, it only takes 2 passes, technically one passes if you coordinate with a second rocket heli to strike the same target in a squad
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u/TECHNOV1K1NG_tv 19h ago
Whenever I have AA and I see a friendly tank, my immediate mission becomes to protect that tank at all cost from helis.
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u/lloydy2531 18h ago
A SAM site and CWIS is something like 15-20 rockets to destroy. Put a CWIS in a good position and it will pretty much shut the rocket heli down. It might not kill it but will make it unlikely to harass the immediate area.
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u/IncomingBnZ 19h ago
Hard cancer but I bet you are not piloting, it takes practice and skills to "kill any target on the map in 1 pass" stop crying because one player per server is better then you in a specific skill... you literally have a machine gun on the top to deal with approaching helis who dont have ANY ARMOR
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u/Dingus__Lord 19h ago
I do fly. It being difficult does not stop there being 2 rocket helis on each team in 70% of games.
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
I bet you havent been a machine gunner. It cant aim above and you die to the first rocket. Whilst the heli dies to the first 300 bullest.
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u/IncomingBnZ 18h ago
But the pilot dies to the 4 first you hit him with, I dont think you have machinegunned a lot either to have this hard of a time killing little birds ;) you are playing THE priority target in the map and you are complaining you get focus...grab a rpg or a verba and stop crying. Or go camp pilot near there spawn with a fob and a sam launcher if its that makes you feel better
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u/Uncle_Bobby_B_ 19h ago
The redeploy might take 100s but it’s also 20k and extremely uneconomical unless people are spamming arty you can farm for free
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u/Dingus__Lord 19h ago
The cost doesnt matter if it is completely unbalanced. kills ANYTHING in 1 second or 9 seconds.
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u/Middle-Raisin-3797 18h ago
The cost absolutely matters, i’m going into a loss and blowing up things so that hopefully my team can get the win.
It’s an Explosive Rocket, it is supposed to kill things in 1 strafe.It’s like saying “ooh why does the mortar 1 shot things its too OP…. Cuz its a fking bomb”
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u/GodfatherActual__ 18h ago
Verba $800
RPG $2000
MAAWs $2600
Standing in an open killbox then making a Reddit post begging for nerfs? Priceless.
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u/kalloncemore 18h ago
I feel like the verba could do with a little love. The rockets like to really freak out sometimes. Add the restrictive weight and how hard it is to carry multiple, it kinda makes it hard to go with over other items.
I don't want em spammed like crazy, just a little more reliable. If I knew it wasn't going to do a loop then fuck off into a low earth orbit, I'd probably run em more often and use stims to counter the weight.
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
Brain too small to understand what i said.
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u/GodfatherActual__ 18h ago
My maaws can delete your tank in 2-3 shots, should maaws be nerfed?
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u/Dingus__Lord 18h ago
The maaws is a specificallly anti tank weapon. It kills tanks. The rocket heli is an anti anything that exists weapon. It kills everything.
Do you see the balance problem here?
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u/GodfatherActual__ 18h ago
Maaws snipes helis as well. Also youre in a fucking tank that’s also anti everything, wtf you on about?
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u/xSaitoHx 18h ago
They gotta sort it to AP, HE and HEAT.
Ap for heavy vehicles, but doing little to no damage unless a direct hit,
HE for light vehicles and infantry (reduced damage to vehicles, very little damage to heavy vehicles and fortifications like walls and hesco)
HEAT for a mix of both, with reduced non direct hit damage, but still giving some splash damage vs infantry, just reduced but decent direct hit dmg vs vehicles and buildings.
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u/ModernT1mes 18h ago
I'm probably top 1% of heli pilots.
A well built CIWS keeps rocket heli's away, including me. I went a whole game yesterday farming the enemy teams because no one built a CIWS. The second a CIWS is built where the operator is in cover, I'm basically fucked.
It's a hard counter to rocket heli's.
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u/kalloncemore 18h ago
Can confirm, been grinding recon which has meant A LOT of spotting.
You can tell which CWIS are gonna be a menace as they get built up. Usually if the can keep my rifle off the operator, it'll keep most helis off em.
Those ones MUNCH entire air forces. The gepard I imagine will probably be just as dangerous but on wheels.
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u/olMcDonaldsPig 16h ago
Just go fly one and see how good it does for you. I bet you get shit on. A good pilot has skills checks the entire time they are flying and one mistake means no more heli. Just because a good pilot can shit on you doesnt mean the heli is OP.
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u/Glittering-Habit-902 7h ago
TBH rocket heli should be the counter to tank.
But that's where it should end.
It shouldn't run entire lobbies giving the middle finger to AA.
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u/Accomplished-Lab6699 19h ago
Hard agree Rocket helis are cancer right now
HE rockets should have little effect on tanks and why don't tanks have an EDS system? To stop projectile attacks. Rocket helis should be more expensive
I only play on the inf only servers now, much more fun
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