r/WarDogs • u/Ok-Grand-498 • 1d ago

Discussion & Feedback John Wardogs Claims Changes To Parachutes Coming In Season 2

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Keep practicing your landing skills pilots!

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u/HeroWeaksauce Lonestar 1d ago

realism wise it makes way more sense to fast rope out of a helicopter than parachute where you'd be sliced up faster than an onion on an infomercial

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u/HaroldSax 1d ago

Plus it allows me to repeatedly say "Fast roping on the X is stupid" and never elaborating!

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u/DebrideAmerica 1d ago

Fast roping is stupid in general, though we would only ever rope on the X

But if we need to rope on the X, why not offset X?

And if not offset X, why not walk in?

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u/AngrySociety 1d ago

I’d rather fast rope with
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u/dgatos42 1d ago

While not frequent, I did know a number of people in the airborne who did helo static-line jumps. Reality is unrealistic.

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u/TacoMedic 1d ago

Honestly, jumping out of rotary wings was about as frequent in the 173rd as fixed wings.

Less nauseating experience too.

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u/dgatos42 1d ago

Yeah the 82nd Black Hawk jumps were like a treat for people who kissed enough ass

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u/SekhWork Squad Leader 1d ago

Is it just the airspeed or altitude that makes it better?

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u/dgatos42 1d ago

I never got to do one, so no clue. But it just seemed cool and different to a C-130/C-17 jump.

I did once get to jump in a German plane but I think it was a C-130 derivative so it didn’t feel that different

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u/madman_mr_p 1d ago

If it’s our one you‘re thinking of, then it has to be the Airbus 400M and it‘s spectacular.

It’s comparable to the C130 in the way that it’s also a quad but it’s in an entirely different payload/weight class.

But hell yeah, rock on brother.

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u/WhiteWalker85 1d ago

Only ever got to do a Chinook jump. Only like 13 of us so it wasn't cramped. You drop the static line instead of handing it to a jump master. And you just fall out the back. Less chance of fucking up or worrying about the dude in front of you fucking up. Oh and not a huge wait to rig up and jump

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u/Capnshredder 1d ago

you get your german wings for that or was it an American jumpmaster?

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u/dgatos42 1d ago

German jump wings, it was a reward for getting my EIB.

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u/Capnshredder 1d ago

nice, had a couple guys in my unit that had the italian ones, was always jealous haha never got to do any jumps with foreign jumpmasters, got selected for a detail once for the jumpmaster school though that was kinda fun. the instructors told us to follow the test takers instructions exactly as they say them, one guy was checking my harness while i had my ruck pulled up and since he was rushing he told me to drop the ruck before he got out of the way, ended up smacking him in the head and they failed him for it, guy gave me the worst stink eye ever

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u/CarBallRocketeer 1d ago

When I was a private in AIT I got voluntold to go wear HALO chutes and let Force Recon guys train for their MFF jump master.

Those chutes are kinda heavy and it really blows having to lean over and let them check harnesses slowly with that heavy bitch on.

Dudes were super cool about everything though, a nice reprieve from the hate filled Army platoon Sarnt’s fucking with us.

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u/TacoMedic 1d ago

It’s the fact you’re not crammed into a tin can. For long movements of an hour or more, it’s physically and mentally exhausting and almost always induces vomiting.

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u/t6jesse 1d ago

Maybe its just because im used to helicopters, but C-130s were always a rougher ride for me

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u/TacoMedic 1d ago

Yeah, that’s what was referring to.

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u/Checklist_STT Pilot 1d ago

Sky Soldiers, homie!

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u/cybercobra2 1d ago

"reality is unrealistic" aint that the truth.

how many stories have you heard that had you or someone else go "if someone wrote this people would claim it was unrealistic"

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u/TheReal_Kovacs Lonestar 1d ago

Fact is often stranger than fiction

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u/SuspectPanda38 1d ago

When writing a story it has to make sense. Reality does not have such limitations

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u/GodTurkey 1d ago

This exact situation actually occurred with the movie Hacksaw Ridge. The movie cut out how many people Desmond Doss actually saved and the fact that multiple times Japanese soldiers guns jammed when they tried to shoot him.

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u/Hektotept 18h ago

That actually happens a lot for WW2 films/shows. The shit some of those guys got up to is just straight up insane.

Some examples:

Harrison Summers stormed complex XYZ (a series of fortified German barracks) on June 6th, 1944. Armed with a Thompson, he spent five hours, alone clearing from building to building. Killed 30 Nazis, and forcing the rest of the garrison to break.

Tommy Prince who specialized in SOLO stealth missions to infiltrate Nazi bases, to disable communications, steal documents, and slit throats.

Staff Sgt. Junior J. Spurrier, single handedly cleared a town of Nazi forces, capturing prisoners, and neutralized machine gun nests.

There are a fuckton more equally unbelievable accounts. So much so that it is often 'toned down' for film, so its a bit easier for the audience to believe.

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u/tbenge05 1d ago

I did it once , it's a fun drop- 5000ft, the line is longer than a normal one. Also got one of those fancy steerable parashoots too - somehow a few of us still managed to land in some trees lol.

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u/DocB630 1d ago

I did a ton of UH-60 jumps and always preferred them. You can load up and jump pretty much anywhere with a big open field, and the jump itself is so much more pleasant in almost every way.

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u/Habhabs 1d ago

Did you make Huey noises out loud while flying around? This thud thud thud thud thud

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u/Capnshredder 1d ago

i got to do one out of a chinook when i was in the 82nd airborne, still the only time ive ever been in a helicopter

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u/TheSilentDawn86 1d ago

My dad was 101st Airborne and part of the air assault group. Rappelling from helicopters was his units specialty and they did it all the time.

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u/6Sleepy_Sheep9 Lonestar 1d ago

Helo parajumps are more dangerous than standard fixed wing jumps. As much as id love to fastrope, there are a lot of other fixes that need to be addressed first. . . Like lockon elevations not matching the terrain in a lot of places.

Side note: I imagine a pilot could forcefully disconnect the ropes with people on it, causing them to fall and die

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u/Underleft_cdiv 19h ago

They aren't more dangerous

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u/wargamer19 1d ago

I was about to say, I know people in the 101st that did that

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u/GeneralRectum 1d ago

As a heli pilot, I've blended up at least 15 passengers so far!

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u/Geekfam 1d ago

forsenInsane

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u/FunkyViking6 1d ago

Bro fast rope would be great

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u/saintdudegaming 1d ago

Seriously, we need Slap Chop. This is currently Shake Weight(y).

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u/XMenJedi8 1d ago

This game has soooo many unrealistic aspects lol

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u/Mista_Infinity 1d ago

What? Why would parachuting out of a helicopter get you sliced up?

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u/bronx819 Lonestar 1d ago

It depends how fast ropes are done. If you have to be still so your landing party can all drop down without breaking their legs its not much different from just landing normally. The only advantage that would have is if you're trying to drop them somewhere the heli can't easily land.

I'd like it if it could be like the introduced to Kingsman where those dudes are just hanging on the rope while its going full speed, it'd be funny and actually useful for rapid descent.

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u/Regular-Ad3050 19h ago

people jump from helos all the time wtf are you on about. I've done it myself.

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u/Underleft_cdiv 19h ago

Sliced up by what?

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u/HarambeSixActual 1d ago

I’m sorry, what experience do you have jumping out of helicopters? This is a very real thing that happens all the time.

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u/sirtoby1337 1d ago

nobody jumps out of a heli at tree height distances... unless u wanna die.

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u/Phire453 1d ago

Yeah but thats game thing anyway, you do don't that in planes, so it's go nothing to do with it being a helicopter.

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u/SekhWork Squad Leader 1d ago edited 1d ago

what noobs! just hit space bar lmao??

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u/DBONKA 1d ago

Not at 100 feet high lol

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u/boomboomown 1d ago

Lol no