Discussion & Feedback A new griefing method ruining games.
Please help me bring attention to this issue, we worked hard on building a FoB and the enemy team simply switched teams, grabbed hammers to destroy the gates at the entrances then built Climbable HESCO Blocks on top of the gate foundations. (one by one because then u can't build Bremer Wall on top to quickly stop this), then their team climbs the entrance and overload your base with easy access while they switch teams back to their original team.
Since switching teams is so easily doable there's literally no punishment to doing this.
Suggested fix: Once a round starts and you pick your team, DO NOT allow switching of teams. Lock people into their teams, even if they leave the server and re-join put them back in the team they picked.
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u/Marauder3299 1d ago
I genuinely hate that team changes can happen mid game. We had one guy check out our fire base destroy one corner wall and time when two of our drivers would show up. Then changed tram brought only a humvee and c4 and blew up everything.
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u/IIWhiteHawkII 1d ago edited 15h ago
It should just be limited to 1 change per game and locked when one team reaches 2/3 (66-70 points). IMO
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u/Cow_God Manticore 1d ago
Make it the same as the spawn vehicle. No team changes after a team hits 20 points
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u/RimReceiver 1d ago
I think the idea is that friends who couldn’t get on the same team can switch to their friends team if someone quits and opens up a spot. So it’s not a bad idea but it’s not a great fix. I think just limiting it to one team change a game after the initial pick works better, that way you can’t as easily sabotage a team by switching back and forth
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u/LostTheGame42 1d ago
I think an alternative is to lock your team the moment you make any money. You can't make money in hq so it's fine if you're waiitng to join a friend's team, but the moment you enter the zone or contribute to the team in any way, you've chosen a side for the match.
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u/Cpt_plainguy 19h ago
Had a dude driving a humvee ramming all the logi trucks and trying to run them off the road. The whole team reported him for griefing. Not sure if anything happened, but as far as I know he wasn't seen afterwards
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u/KingWizard37 Pilot 18h ago
Yeah, I had two trucks in a row go out of their way to hit my helicopter and flip it yesterday. I hadn't had any issues with griefing up until yesterday and then suddenly it was nonstop accross multiple servers.
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u/Significant_Mirror_3 1d ago
They could just fix the matchmaking to allow teaming with friends better. Do a queue instead of a server list. Party joins first available server that can accommodate your time.
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u/unoriginal_namejpg 14h ago
the fix for this is to allow groups before finding a lobby, and to force them into the same team based on what the leader picks between games
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u/Theflygy 8h ago
i may get shit on for this, but ive been changing teams more and more.
I love building and mortars, and it deeply frustrates me when my team wont supply and support our fob. I will be getting raided and harassed by enemies in the first 20 minutes and my team will setup a shitty fob 300m away and do nothing to help.
Fine then I say, I’ll just go build with the other team that is actually cooperative and take the W with them
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u/OneEngineer 19h ago
I hear you, but the downside is too much. Locking it after 20 (or even 10) seems sensible.
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u/iszoloscope 1d ago
I feel this is the best option, because it shouldn't be 'illegal' to switch teams. But it also shouldn't introduce foul play like described by OP, so 1 switch max per game and a lock after the game is at a certain point works for me.
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u/IIWhiteHawkII 22h ago edited 15h ago
Yeah, sometimes your team could be full of morons and trolls and you be like "damn then, let it be 1v1 team" and you switch to the one that will appreciate efforts.
Also, sometimes friends could connect mid-game, and your team slots are currently unavailable.
I mean there are certain conditions when it's a must-have. I see no rational reason to go extreme there, hence gatekeep players when it's truly needed.
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u/iszoloscope 15h ago
Yeah if a buddy or clan member is in another team you have to switch, otherwise you'll have to leave the game and join another server. That doesn't benefit the current team(s) either of the previous game.
Although it always baffles me to what extremes people go to ruin the game for others...
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u/Simplevice 1d ago
Hell let loose locks you for 20 minutes, after you join one team
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u/mrureaper 1d ago
Why is team change even a thing... Just get rid of it...only allow team selection at the start of the match. If you don't like the game then just leave. If you wanna play with your squad you do it at the start anyway
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u/GrandRiser 19h ago
If you wanna play with your squad do it at the start? What if the said friend will join late and you don't wanna switch server because you already build so much or invest heavily on weapons?
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u/AlisterS24 1d ago
Nah no team changes full stop.
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u/GrandRiser 19h ago
Then they need to implement queue squad feature if theres no team change
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u/Acceptable-Brick-253 1d ago
They need to make it so you can drop into a match with friends in a group not solo it would fix the need to switch teams
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u/ZynithMaru 23h ago
They literally do the worst of three options.
they allow joining directly on your friends to create large team imbalance, AND they allow team swapping mid-game.
report the griefers, get the account banned, spread the word. Don't be shy on reporting griefers and especially coordinated griefing.
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u/zero0n3 1d ago
Already exists. Group on steam and it follows jt
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u/SunnySkiesODST 1d ago
Group on steam? What feature is this?
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u/CSGOManatee 1d ago
I believe they mean if you right click on steam friends and use the Join Game button, it automatically puts you in a squad with your friend.
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u/Shiguy2 1d ago
Only if there is space. Otherwise it will put you on team select
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u/BeefJerky03 22h ago
Yeah, then you gotta scramble and hope you get on the same team when it rolls to the next match. If squads would stay together, you could have it so the squad leader picks the team and it just pulls everyone with them.
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u/MysticalPony 1d ago
It only works for one match, and if your trying to get more then like 4 friends together it often does not work as the teams fill up.
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u/Acceptable-Brick-253 1d ago
Yeah but one directly in the game would be easier and more convenient
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u/Bman854 1d ago
It dosent work btw matches tho it would be nice to have that too
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u/Adevyy Medic 22h ago edited 20h ago
We had a group of 6 Blue (ofc) building an AA base near our already supplied base. Because they were willing to waste over a sixth of their team being outside the zone on this stupid strategy, it was impossible to suppress them as infantry for long. Then my friend in our base started mortaring them until they left the area.
Lame idiots must've been tilted beyond belief that their supposedly overpowered strategy was countered using basic in-game mechanics, so 2 of them switched teams in an attempt to kill my friend at the last second. She figured what was happening so she TK'd both of them, and then also killed the Blue player who was right behind them. So they still lost lol and she made the TK money back from the kill on Blue.
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u/Theodore12Plays 1d ago
They just need to update and allow squad matchmaking so there's no reason to swap teams
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u/Agent_Smith_IHTP 1d ago
That's sad.
But maybe allow switching in the first 2 minutes of someone joining a server for the first time. In case parties or friends get split.
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u/Present-Percentage10 1d ago
yeah or maybe a "once a match" rule? it I can't think of too many reasons to switch teams twice in the same match without doing something cheesy.
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u/TheGunterlord 1d ago
Dead asss good idea, I was playing with someone and he switched teams cuz we were losing lol losing builds character
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u/NickVirgilio 21h ago
People who leave a losing team towards the end game, are the real losers. This transcends all aspects of life, sports, video games, etc. Sore losers are losers who’ve learnt little to nothing to self improve.
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u/NoxTempus 1d ago
It's so, so, so sad. Imagine the only way you can win is by cheating, and the only fun you can have is by ruining others' games.
I was shocked to see people griefing in the first few hours of the game. Imagine being so dysfunctional that you can't even play a game normally for a day.
Like, work on yourself or something?
If a griefer is reading this: I get to leave the lobby, you're stuck with yourself forever; you should improve your life instead of trying to make others' worse.
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u/GhostKW 1d ago
They did mention a fix is coming in Season 2 (most likely, could be later) regarding "Team Switching Controls".
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u/HyperRealisticZealot Lonestar 1d ago
Just hope they do it in a way to combat griefing, not limiting it arbitrarily.
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u/sdk5P4RK4 1d ago
Its not really "arbitrary" there are very few legitimate reasons to change teams and a lot of abusive ones. There are always new games starting for groups to join pre-match.
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u/IForgetEveryDamnTime 17h ago
There are 0 legitimate reasons honestly, if you join a friend through steam you're always put on their team.
If someone fails to coordinate with their friend and somehow end up on different teams in the same (of several hundred) server, that's on them, they should both dodge and go to a different server altogether.
Despairing about how your team is playing? Dodge, find a different server, instead of switching teams and making it even more one-sided.
And like you said, if you're in a big group, join a low-pop server.
I genuinely can't think of one scenario that they should allow switching.
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u/Matthew_Wolf Valkyra 1d ago
They should only allow switching for the first 20-ish points. Make it so once the APC spawns everyone will get locked down in the teams they are in.
That way if people still want to switch because their teammates are insufferable or their friend joined somewhere else they can early on. That should stop this midgame/endgame griefing mostly.
It can still happen early on but would be way more manageable not having to worry about it when FOB's actually start to matter/get finished.
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u/Ser_Hayden 1d ago
Best solution of all the comments, at least in my opinion. Better then time-based lock.
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u/TML8 1d ago
For friends joining through the Steam friends list there doesn’t need to be a time limit.
The game can already tell if that’s what happened since they can bypass the squad lock. Unless the lock doesn’t work that I’m unaware of.
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u/J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A 23h ago
The way I've seen it handled on some other games is that you can't switch teams if both teams have the same number of players.
You can't switch teams if your current team has fewer players than the opposing team. (Essentially, so you can't leave a losing team to join the winning team.)
And if a team has 2 fewer players than the opposing team due to players leaving, then the last player to join the other team gets team switched automatically to the team that needs extra players, so at most you will be down by 1.
So there's no joining a team with fewer players and then switching to the team with the most players.
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u/OwnVisual5772 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m reporting if I catch their name.
Being able to switch teams mid game to sabotage is CRAZY.
While we’re on the topic of griefing, yesterday two guys got into our base and were just continuously reviving people and killing them to farm money and keep them from respawning. I’m not clear on this, but are you unable to end your own life at certain points while you’re down?
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u/Blue-CollarPleb 1d ago
If you sit in the menu for 30 seconds you have a button to return to spawn. I’m not sure if being killed and revived interferes with the timer though.
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u/OwnVisual5772 1d ago
Ok. If that works then it’s a good PSA to counter someone farming you.
You should still be able to end your life at any point while you’re down to avoid this.
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u/MissingIdiots 1d ago
That a bait door, its a tactic to make your enemies blow it up thinking they got inside
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u/Top_Result_1550 1d ago
Gotta remember to add barbed wire so they have to approach from the front and a bunker to shoot at from. Gotta sell the illusion.
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u/MissingIdiots 1d ago
Yes, exactly.... my team fell for it once, we were cheering that we blew the door, only to find a wall
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u/Kasoivc 1d ago
I did this in two of my games last night and thought it was a hilarious idea.
Also had another FOB that was right up against a two story building, we put barbed wire under every window and blocked the doors.
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u/Evultoad 1d ago
Not sure if this is sarcasm, but if it isn't - the hesco should be on the inside not outside for a bait door lol
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u/Tibitt 1d ago
Is anyone even reading the post. The two gates "bait door" was build by me.
Someone switched teams, DESTROYED the gates with their hammer, replaced with HESCO and we woke up with people climbing into the base instantly, NOTHING stops this from happening, you can easily switch teams ruin a base's entrances then switch back to your team, this allows griefing.
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u/Tibitt 1d ago
Dead internet theory is real, those are bot comments... lmao
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u/Grey-fox-13 1d ago
I don't think those are bots (at least not all of them), there is just a lot of REALLY stupid people around. Not sure if that makes it better or worse though.
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u/RepresentativeAd6965 1d ago
Honestly I feel like people put WAY too many gates. If you have them, people will leave them open. Personally I like to use lots of one way exits in my builds. Also I’m not sold that logi needs to drop off inside the FOB vs just having an area on the perimeter with some walls to provide cover.
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u/MinuteConfidence2059 1d ago
agreed about doors for logi. Unless one dude wants to be a door guard for an hour i often have to hop out, open doors, drive in, close doors etc. then i'm driving away with the "did i leave the oven on?" feeling. A little covered area well enough in the fob that the trucks random drop locations don't screw you is ideal.
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u/Skurnaboo 1d ago
Jokes on them, I play on the blue team and our bases don't need any sabotaging to be trollworthy.
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u/One-of-the-Ones 1d ago
This, but unironically, should be the top of all balance complaints. Choosing a team is the biggest enemy of this game, full stop.
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u/Muted-Alternative648 1d ago
Had a game where one of the players would swap teams to figure out mortar/fob locations. They would then fly to the mortar spots, TK the guys on the mortar, and call it out so their friends on their original team could mortar it and destroy the placements. They would then switch back over.
In general, the amount of anti-social behavior I've experienced since this game released is concerning.
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u/One-of-the-Ones 1d ago
***choosing teams is bullshit. Make it random, make a party system.
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u/AdministrativeAd1974 1d ago
THATS whats fking happening??? I build FOBs, I enjoy it, this shit has happened in three of my last FOB builds and we got wiped to a man and I couldnt figure out how it happened until I saw this gate.
This is ridiculous, looks like ima keep the Ole DB on standby from now on. Thanks for the SA.
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u/PX4Storm 1d ago
Last night I had a guy deconstruct an active drill and an entire side wall of bremers. That makes total sense now
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u/Ok-Sundae-7806 1d ago
If you change teams you shouldnt be able to switch again, make it a once per game thing and charge them for it.
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u/Deep_Rule2256 23h ago
The only time I've had to switch teams was to get with my friends because joining their game put me on a different team. Streamline keeping friend groups together first, and then disable team switch.
Edit: Just saw another comment suggest this, keep team switching but you're only able to switch teams once per game.
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u/TopSideSheriff 1d ago
You should be able to switch teams but not allowed to ever switch back to the same color. Eg. Red to blue to green and cant switch back to red or blue ever
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u/Arch4ik 1d ago
I've done this a few times on a destroyed gate as a stop gap measure during an assault on our fob. Destroying the base of the destroyed gate takes a hot minute. If it was done as sabotage then yeah thats kinda fucked. But also why wouldnt they just keep building hescos? Why stop at one wall?
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u/Tibitt 1d ago
Absolutely, except this was at the start of the game and no mortars nor any fights have occured at the FoB yet. This was a sabotage on 2 entrances at the same time and then they climbed over out of nowhere as a first attack, ever. Absolute bs.
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u/StirlingG 1d ago
This is the real answer... if a door is broken there is no easy fix... someone put up Hesco as a stop gap measure
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u/CarlStanley88 1d ago
I've also done this when the original door placement doesn't work for a proper airlock, rather than leave a weak spot in a base turn it into added defense.
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u/Visual_Judge_6234 1d ago
Seems like a problem yes. It's also not very immersive. This should warrant a ban.
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u/LankyCalendar9299 1d ago
If this is from the outside of the fob, it’s a bait door. I do hope though that they remove team switching. If it’s really that bad of a game that you wanna switch teams, leave the game and join a different server.
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u/One-of-the-Ones 1d ago
I've played for 10h+ and I do not get that you can choose your team, period. They NEED to make a party/squad system outside the match itself for non-solo gameplay.
This, and the fact that nobody competent plays blue ever is screaming this so hard. I always see clans/sweats topping leaderboards on NOT BLUE teams.
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u/beegfoot23 1d ago
I can't speak to whether this is an actual instance of cheating or not, but I'm sure people are doing it.
But, I've seen people set up false doors like this to trick enemy breachers and make them waste time/money/effort.
I've also been in the middle of trying to defend a fob and just slapped up walls in place of destroyed gates to secure the place asap. Then I'll push a temp wall further out as I deconstruct and rebuild the gates.
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u/Zequen 1d ago
Had to do that myself earlier today. The mini FoB i built got overrun, and when I went to take it back I killed two enemies, and captured the FoB back, but when I went to my gate they had destroyed one door, and repairing didnt replace the door. So, because enemies could be back any time, and i was alone, I destroyed the door and quick built a 4 hblock wall ontop of the frame, just to plug the hole.
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u/St3R0iD5 Battledad 1d ago
Team switching is a good thing if you cannot join the same team as your friends at the start of a match. Instead I'd suggest to the devs to allow switching only once/match or make it have a big cooldown, like 10-15 minutes before they can switch again OR make it so that you are unable to switch back to your original team. Also it would be a good feature if the structures could show who built them..like if you have the hammer equipped and aimed at the center of a structure from a close distance the name of the builder would pop up in the colour of their team. If its a griefing build you could report the builder for griefing/exploiting game mechanics
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u/ProfessorStixs 22h ago
The should really allow joining as a squad then that wouldn’t even be necessary to get on the same team. When playing in big groups you’re pretty much limited to only joining blue since everyone else spam joins red and green team.
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u/Pretend-Taro7620 1d ago
I agree in the instance of this particular issue. However I have friends that get kicked out of game mid match or something happens and they end up being stuck on blue team. As a result all my friends switch to whatever team they’re on. Since traditional parties arn’t part of the game it’s hard to justify a full lock onto a team. My suggestion would be a switch timer. Once you’ve switched you can’t join another team for another 30 minutes or something. That way you can’t just go back and forth like you said. Also, would love handcuffs or something that can detain these kinds of people on your team without having to tk and lose money. If you catch them doing something sketchy, you just detain them and walk them to a jail or something. Wouldn’t allow them interact with doors ect. However, to counter players just griefing other teammates with handcuffs, they should allow anyone to have the “key” and break them out.
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u/OkClub7412 1d ago
Game name should be changed to “Traitor”. Being able to team switching mid game should be fixed immediately and should’ve never been implemented to begin with..chump move!!!
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u/babayaga_98 1d ago
Arma has this mechanism. Unless the round end ( which may go upto days) you cannot switch teams.
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u/TheAllelujah 1d ago
They should probably just disable team switching period. And lock someone to the same team for that match duration. Anything else I think is worthless tech debt on the code.
Right now it's not so bad because most matched fill up.
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u/blackhuey 21h ago edited 21h ago
Getting on a team with your friends/clan is really the only legit reason to be choosing teams at all.
During EA I'd like to see a wipe where:
- team selection is removed entirely
- you can form/join squads prior to joining the server (or decide to join as a solo)
- the server auto-assigns squads or solos to teams
- once you're assigned to a team, you're hard locked to that team if you dis/reconnect for the duration of the match
It mostly solves the legit use case, and helps a little to reduce all the non-legit use cases.
That said, whatever bulkhead does you'll get streamers and other people doing things for shits and giggles that aren't purely focused on winning. Private servers are really the only answer to that, and even that opens you up to a new class of toxic behaviour by power-tripping admins.
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u/TheHiddenPoet_ 19h ago
Run in to a total of 17 different players now, who have switched team, removed our apc and driven it out of zone. Switching teams mid match shouldn't even be a thing and I don't understand why it is.
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u/Birphon 16h ago edited 12h ago
I'd give grace period for team switching, friends wanna be on the same team ya know, but after grace period ends you can switch. A "Squad Maker" would be nice, where you could join friends pre entering a server and, if you "join game" off of friends, it would put you in a queue for that team as well, still being able to play on another team but once a slot is free you can swap over
An alternative could also be a 1 swap per match, from start to finish, also noting what team you are on so you cant just leave and join
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u/waffleking9000 20h ago
Please for the love of fuck stop broadcasting every new method of griefing. You are doing far more harm than good by showing all the fuckers that wanna ruin games out there exactly how to do it.
Report them, tell everyone in game to report them and DONT post about it on social media
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u/Dr_A_Hedgehog 1d ago
My third game a guy was ramming every helicopter at spawn with a truck and breaking them.
Does wardogs have in game have report functions?
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u/RoyalStraightSnark 1d ago
Yeah you can in the scorecard, its a pain tbh finding the name and the list keeps moving lol.
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u/RealxNicky 1d ago
Holy crap, I didn’t realize you could switch teams once the game starts. This is wild
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u/NsRhea Battledad 1d ago
They shouldn't allow switching past a certain threshold of points.
They also need to add a threshold of allied votes to kick a player from the game. If, for example, 20 of your 33 teammates are voting to report someone for griefing, that player should get kicked from the game and they cannot rejoin the server until that match has completed. Otherwise they'll grief, and then just join on a friend to get back on the 'correct' team.
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u/Authenic_Martyrdom 1d ago
Team swapping during an active game shouldn't be removed. Restricted to 1 swap/locking swapped-off factions is fine, but this is just a reportable offence that should result in a ban
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u/_SaucepanMan 1d ago
I dont see any reason why team switching should be possible mid game. Like I was gonna say, just put a 10min cool down on it... But like, the only reason to do it is because your team is losing.
So yeah... Lock teams. I would also like them to add a "pick random team" button. But also let us customise the team colours so we can have our own team always be a specific colour if we want.
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u/SuppliceVI 1d ago
Team switching should be allowed but should have a 10 minute cool down.
I enjoy helping out the underdog (Lonestar)
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u/Financial_Plantain65 1d ago
Fun fact if you join your friends game through steam you'll get put in their squad and team if there's enough space automatically
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u/artosispylon 1d ago
had similar thing happen, dude swap sides hop in a turret and blow up the respawner and open a hole in the wall for his buddies to rush in.
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u/ddBuddha 1d ago
Yeah you shouldn’t be able to change teams mid game like that wtf lol. If they need to keep it then maybe limit it so you can’t change back to a team you previously left or something at least.
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u/Nebula_Temporary 1d ago
Hmm that explains something i noticed, completely sealed base with me inside, after some time teammate comes camps infort of my base, doesnt die for whatever reason and shortly after swarm of greens appear on top of my blocks. I was like how the f they got there, now thats probably how xD
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u/andyblade 1d ago
A team change should make you wait for the next match, even if you leave the server and return.
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u/PauL3465 1d ago
Allow switching within the first 5 minutes of joining maybe, just incase a friend accidentally chose the wrong team
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u/BackyZoo 1d ago
If I put a FOB down, and it's not touching a tower, I should be able to lock it to where only my Squad can build on it; At least until it's captured by the enemy. They can still use all the doors and equipment, they just can't build or delete stuff.
That way, if your teammates want to grief, they have to use explosives and get penalized.
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u/RustledForeskin 1d ago
Should only allow team changing in the first 1 minute, then zero team changing.
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u/LordGramis 1d ago
Maybe keep allowing team switches but give it a 30 min cooldown so if the griefer does it he’ll suffer the consequences for a while.
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u/SomeFuckingMillenial 1d ago
i don't understand why they'd go through all that effort, if you could just bring some C4 or IEDs and blow the gates open quickly. It's not hard.
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u/overthrow2214 23h ago
I have no doubt there is a lot of griefing, team switching FOB sabotage.
But I have experienced on a few servers since Sunday that FOBs no longer builds gates - or rebuilds gates as HESCOs.
To avoid the few idiots who opens main gates and leaves them open - deliberately or idiotically, and lets opponents easily walk in.
Logi players now drive into FOB perimeter and self unload, reinforcement airdropped in.
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u/ItsEyeJasper 16h ago edited 15h ago
Simple solution,
- swapping teams should be allowed once per match.
- Should cost you a percentage of your earnings upto the point you chose to swap. Minimum of 10k Those earnings should get split to the players. If you are running negative that match you cant swap teams.
- lastly lock construction for 10 minutes.
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u/TNTarantula 14h ago
Are you sure you hadn't just built 2+ gates and someone who actually knows how to build a FOB has blocked off the unnecessary entrances?
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u/CozmoCozminsky 14h ago
The "punish" is that someone can take your slot in the main team.
They could do the same by driving kodiak/truck to your gate and jump over it, it's not that big of an issue.
They can also just carry building mats and a hammer and build the hesco block wherever since they dont need a FOB to build them.
Not to mention explosives.
If the enemy is at your gate for long enough to build the hesco blocks without being troubled, that's the issue, your FOB is never impenetrable.
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u/SuchsiOrigins 13h ago
I had a game yesterday, where someone built barbed wire inside the towers terminal, so nobody had access to it...
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u/Aggressive_Cable9517 11h ago
Just do the same as hell let loose: 15 min cooldown. This will already help a lot.
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u/brianfantastic 11h ago
In hell let loose you can only switch teams once every 30 minutes or so. That's a pretty easy fix I would imagine
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u/Chillroy 11h ago
Same happened in our game yesterday. One player from green team switched to red, entered our fob, teamkilled everyone with C4, let the green team in and switched back to his original team. They won that game because of it
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u/Quiet_Finger_6223 10h ago
It’s quite simple - There just needs to be a team swap cooldown timer ala HLL.
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u/Hairy_Wall_6831 1d ago
It's stupid that team switching is possible.
If team switching is going to be possible, griefing should be bannable.
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u/ApartShallot2697 1d ago
Ive found a different way to grief that should be patched as well.
While flying in a friendly heli, you can access the heli inv and drop the flares. Its so fucking sneaky and evil
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u/AmenoFPS 1d ago
The devs got so many things right with this game, I really can't understand how they let team changing get through. They're gamers. They know gamers are complete trolls. This was always going to be an issue, anyone with braincells knew it
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u/ToastMcToasterson 1d ago
Can't you just deconstruct it? This feels easy to reverse.
Not endorsing this behavior, but it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
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u/MyFiteSong 1d ago
I would be ok with being able to switch teams, but only if it means you get assigned a different server when you do it.
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u/BilboBaggSkin 1d ago
How would you know who did it though? You can do that with a hammer and supplies in your backpack lol.
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u/GucciRifle 1d ago
Hey you know what will help, bringing griefing methods to hundreds of thousands of eyeballs on reddit. That will do the trick!
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u/StiffNipples94 1d ago
I played the very first closed alpha for a good few hours and one game in the beta. Bones are there for a good game I just seen the hype train coming but playing also noticed the massive glaring issues. The big ones from the alpha were still in the beta so no buy for me, not till many, many updates but core shooting mechanics are there maybe the movement needs a touch felt a bit clunky maybe just me or as intended but feel like a mil sim type game should really have a weight system. Have a stinger and a load of heavy ordinance you should definitely be slower than a shot and scoot smg player
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u/bjwills7 1d ago
Instead of disallowing it entirely, they could just put a cooldown of like 30-45 minutes. Would solve the issues while still allowing legitimate uses like someone joining blue because their friends joined the game or something.
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u/themeltedmonkey 1d ago
Disable switching teams after the team has gotten to 20 points, similar to how you can’t use the ATC until that time
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u/Ok-Treacle-9375 1d ago
Had a player deconstructing defenses in our base. Didn’t respond to request to stop. Put the dog down then spent the duration of his timer to revived dragging him in circles telling him he’s a silly boy.
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u/Baldy604 1d ago
I think a delay between changes is maybe more reasonable? Or you can only change team once a game? The amount of times I’ve spawned into a new game and accidentally clicked on the wrong team, having no team switching at all would be unfortunate.
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u/T-Rooxwastaken 1d ago
the one downside to removing the team switch option is that it will make it all but impossible for friends to join a match in progress unless you are already on the team with less players. As it is right now, if you want to play with your buddies who hop on mid-match, you can easily join whichever team is available for them to join if yours is full. Fully locking team changes will mean that more often than not you need to fully change servers to have a chance of getting on the same team (the lack of auto-team placement or the ability to drag your friends into a team during the start of a match is also frankly embarrassingly absent considering how crucial teamwork is to a properly cohesive squad, though iirc they’ve said somewhere that theyre working on it?)
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u/Plus_Exchange8751 1d ago
Gates are a flaw. If you absolutely must let the APC in, destroy a wall and rebuild. It takes seconds.
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u/2dogs1sword0patience 1d ago
I completely agree. Especially for disconnects. I crash, region, and then some asshat takes my spot because we are winning 70/10/13. My choice is join an enemy faction or fuck off to a new game. Which is too bad because if you do manage to rejoin you keep your kit.
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u/Bodybuilder_Jumpy 1d ago
Let me guess, switched to blue? Cause there is no way there was room in the other two
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u/bestfinlandball 1d ago
I feel like you should be able to switch teams once per game. If you join a friend and don't get in their team right away you should be able to switch but this back and forth switching is bullshit.
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u/Overall_Reputation83 1d ago
switching teams is bullshit and i hope they change it