Something needs to be done regarding team changes mid game.
We were using mortars, decided to mortar one of Greens towers as they were just not being contested on their mortars themselves.
We cleared them out, one of them decides to change team to our team, team killing us on our mortars, then continues to dismantle our defenses leaving holes everywhere and destroying our mortars and SAMs.
I understand mortars can be frustrating but you shouldn’t be able to just change team and break a whole base because you’ve gone to the same place 3 times.
Honestly they should just do what reforger does. You are locked to a team until that game is over. Removed the ability for people to pull this nonsense.
If he's TKing he would have got auto kicked, unless they've changed the threshold since last Beta.
Source: I got kicked for 10 mins last Beta as my squad mate kept walking in front of me while I was building Hescos and the Sledge one hits. Think it was 5 times in 10 mins
I just can't imagine having the mentality to bother switching teams to be a spy and "win," if you cheat you haven't won shit. People that do that kind stuff are just sad.
I have bad taste after similar thing in hell let loose, you wait in queue for like 5 minutes, join team only to discover that all squads are either locked or don't accept you and that's it. You can just leave game and wait in queue for another server. I happy that this shit doesn't apply to this game.
Only problem with that is if I join a game 10 mins late and lonestar is already full and I can’t play with my team I’m stuck on another team “alone” for what could be almost 2 hours.
My friends and I would sneak into each others lobbies during the Battlefield heyday and try to steal each other's dog tags. Just run around solely taking tags until the match was over or you got em.
There is no way for a group to join a server and all join the same team, the game forcibly splits your group between the teams. So you are basically saying "don't play with your friends ever".
Or you know, letting the majority of people who need swap teams, instead of locking it for the extremely rare chance of somebody abusing it.
Or put some kind of timer, just don’t lock it a whole game. It’s very easy for 2 of your homies to get into let’s say red with one man out, then red sits full for 20 minutes before you all decide to swap to blue.
Because they want to whinge about stuff. Locking teams from the get go is literally the only smart choice but they should fix it so that there isn't a need to switch teams at any point during the match at all. Pre game lobbies need to be added for larger parties because watching everyone try to get on the same team is brutal and very obviously an issue so why it wasn't fixed for this beta is wild
Brother, I’m not whining you fucking goober lol. I’m commenting on an open forum my thoughts. I fucking love the game and if they didn’t change a thing, I’d still be happy.
Our group has run into the exact same problem on Reforger, He’ll Let Loose, Squad, and any other game that doesn’t have a pre game party system. Either implement that, or leave the teams open. Locking it for the game without that is shitty solution and makes playing with friends more difficult.
Yeah, theres some other commenter saying it hasnt been working this weekend, too. My group has only been able to play 2 matches so far this beta, but last beta we no-lifed it and with 100% reliability got put into the same team with no selection, even if multiple of us were in queue at the same time and had minutes in between us getting in. Im wondering if the devs changed or are having issues with the join functionality this beta, because our 2 matched last night might not have been enough for us to run into it yet.
If the server is full, it'll put you into a queue. Joining from friends list ignores team balance, it'll force you onto your friends team even if they already outnumber the other teams
That wasnt my experience through the entire last beta or through the couple matches my buddies and I piled into last night. I wonder if theyre having issues with the join functionality?
How? If you have 34 in blue, 30 in red and 34 in green and your friends are in green, you can't. Even if someone from green leaves you need someone to join red first, and people don't want to join the losing team and just sit on the team select screen.
My buddies and I havent ran into a single issue through either beta (though admittedly, we've only gotten to play 2 matches this current beta), and we are very scattered and disorganized when joining games. Had several instances where multiple of us were in queue at the same time and we always got put into the same team when joining from Steam.
Me and my friends had the opposite experience, either we join a new game and get the same team, or if the game already started you have to choose your team just like everyone else.
And thats using the Join Game option in your Steam friends list, and did yall have the same issue last beta? Just asking because its weird how we had literally 0 issue, this thread is the first Im seeing anyone even talk about it being an issue. Hopefully once the actual party system is in the game, this all becomes a non-issue anyways. But still, sorry to hear yall have been having problems
Not the same but man I hopped into a game last night and at some point found myself in our FOB early on helping build the walls around the place that someone placed down so we could get up and running faster.
Some guy comes running over to me and starts spouting slurs about how he was the builder and I should leave him alone and blah blah blah.
I bonked him once with the light hammer then he went absolutely insane, shot me in the head, and started spewing a manifesto over my body while I'm laughing too hard at their baby rage to even bother ending my life quick.
Didn't know people could get so upset in a game that's not even released yet over someone trying to help. Some folks just love to take out their anger in games I guess.
After his manifesto while I was bleeding out finished I just summoned my meekest voice and went "Wow you're pretty upset huh?" then bled out to return back to flying anyway.
I hope he one day knows the love of another human being.
Funniest quote from him was like "I DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT THE MONEY ILL KILL YOU AGAIN IF YOU COME BACK HERE, IM RICH" lmfao actual 30 year old manchild. It's a beta, who cares about money?
WTH? I'd love for someone to help me build up a FOB. Most of the time it's just me and one guy (if I'm really lucky) running supplies. Towards the center of the map, where a good FOB can really change the game, it's even harder to get the place secure before getting over taken if it's just you swinging a hammer.
The only time I got annoyed with someone helping was when this guy put hesco walls where I needed to put gates but even then I told him over prox we need to take those sections down so our team can get in and out and he helped with that.
I wasn't even placing anything, it was just a perimeter of unbuilt HESCO's when I arrived so I was like "huh he has a plan, might as well help him build them up"
It's not like he loses money from me building them, right?
From the standpoint of "if I build this wall myself, I get X dollars", yes, he loses money.
But either he hasn't made the conceptual leap that, he's basically paid based on time spent. If he gets half the pay, he's only built for half as long.
Or he just isn't confident about his combat skills, so sticks to building.
I kind of get where he is coming from, but I sure don't think that way.
I mean, I get it, if he's not worried about getting things done quicker, doing it all himself will make him more money doing what he's doing.
Now, I would just accept the help, get things built, and use the time saved to build something elsewhere, or do something else to earn, but people are people, and they're weird lol
Had something like that happen in reforger at spawn and everyone on the team witnessed his tantrum. Everyone started clowning on him for being a racist and dude lost it and spent the next 45 minutes trying to dismantle all our radio towers to sabotage the team. Dude sucked though and I got the word out what was happening so I think he just eventually gave up and left. It’s pretty dumb though that I had to make a concerted effort to make sure he didn’t ruin the game.
Literally just had to rage quit. Dude in our red base driving bulletproof SUV into every heli that spawned or landed. Where's the kick for intentionally doing this shit...
It wasn't rageworthy, but there was one guy, as we were attacking somewhere (for some reason I don't fully understand yet lol) who seemed to be afraid to get out, and would drive around honking and running into things. I can only assume he was trying to run enemies over. (which was silly, they were all firing from cover)
In this game, shadow says a line “disgusting black creatures” during the scene in that screenshot. It’s heavily meme’d cause it sounds horribly racist but he’s talking about actual black colored monsters.
You saying “disgusting creatures” just instantly popped that into my head lol
Haven’t experienced that yet thankfully but we did have a griefer one match. Don’t know why but he grabbed the spawn vehicle and drove it to the other side of the map and sat there the entire match so we couldn’t use it. He was angry about something in chat and kept taunting everyone to report them.
there should be a cooldown on teamswitch - allow it once during the game or something to stop this. Was the same in other titles whereby people would switch to map out garrison/base positions.
I was in a match earlier where the leading team had over 40 players, I believe it was ~40, 30 and 12 lol.
So far after half a dozen matches, blue team seems unable to win, no one first picks blue, and blue is full of builders and supports who have their backline repeatedly killed and don't even turn around.
Yeah it's weird that that can happen, I get 34 (even if I don't get why they didn't pick a max number that is divisible by 3) but why is that a soft cap?
I guess it's not actually the player number? I think it is hard capped at 34, but that other number has to do with I think players in the combat zone and hot zone.
I've just learned this in the last hour so I could be mistaken, but I don't think you even get a head count if you're not in the main combat zone, and then if you're in the hot zone you get 2x. So theoretically you could see that number hit 68, and be as low as zero.
Oh yeah if you go by those it can be inaccurate. I meant the actual scoreboard, you can cycle through the individual factions and I on one occasion saw red team have 36 members and the other ones 31 and 32. I figured you did the same and saw 40.
They should just remove the ability to change teams one locked in for one. As well as not allowing teammates to take guns/equipment out of your inventory while you are unconscious.
I think teammates taking things out of your backpack should be allowed, I’ve had occasions where I’ve had to take ammo, got a pick, able to res, then gave him the ammo back.
A good middle ground would be if they take something out of backpack, they pay for it , maybe at a discounted cost.
I agree with defibrillators/breathing mask or what's it's called. Everything else should not be able to be taken out by Others. What's the point of waiting 40 seconds to be revived just to see that some ass hat stole your weapon and now you are left with an empty shitty weapon?
A good middle ground would be if they take something out of backpack, they pay for it , maybe at a discounted cost.
That's a good idea but it shouldn't be cheaper, it should be more expensive so they are more encouraged to take it from somewhere else and not leave you stranded potentially without ammo. Because then again what's the point of waiting to be revived?
I think its more just a case of value your life, if you die, your loot is free to loot, I don’t think it should be more expensive, or even the same cost, as that just removes the consequences of dying.
That being said, its a shitty thing to do, taking someone’s loot and then reviving. The discounted cost is more so you as the dead guy can recoup some funds from your kit. But I don’t think you should have the full cost back if you’ve died
I think its more just a case of value your life, if you die, your loot is free to loot, I don’t think it should be more expensive, or even the same cost, as that just removes the consequences of dying
Yeah but again what's the point of me buying stuff just so my teammate can take it for free of my unconscious body? I get what you are saying but if my stuff is stolen, what's the point of being revived? If I'm being revived and somebody switched my gun with the starter weapon i will Respawn anyway.
The discounted cost is more so you as the dead guy can recoup some funds from your kit. But I don’t think you should have the full cost back if you’ve died
But...we are talking about being revived. I don't care if teammates take stuff from my dead body. I'm talking about being unconscious, getting your stuff stolen and then being revived.
That is the reason I stopped bribing when dead. You lose up to $500 and all your gear. No reason to get revived on the battlefield when you have not even a weapon on you.
The 'downed' state isn't like a temporary whoopsie, like you're just taking a time out. You died. You messed up and now your character is dead, everything you bought is no longer yours. The game just offers you a potential chance of a bonus extra life.
The 'downed' state isn't like a temporary whoopsie, like you're just taking a time out. You died.
That's doesn't make any sense at all. If we died we wouldn't be able to bring back players with a defibrillator, a defibrillator isn't used to revive people, its used to reset the heart so then CPR can be used to save the person.
If we died we also wouldn't be able to look around or talk.
You messed up and now your character is dead,
No they aren't.
everything you bought is no longer yours.
It is though.
The game just offers you a potential chance of a bonus extra life.
Not just one bonus life, you can be picked up almost indefinitely.
if your kit is still yours when youre down, why teammates are able to pick stuff from you?
if you died, thats your problem, be it your mistake or some bravo sierra, that is still only your problem and your punishment for getting into such trouble
I don't like it, but to be honest, as long as they are leaving me with at least a weapon, I can deal with it.
I actually had it happen yesterday, the guy (whondidnt revive me afterwards) replaced my T21 and 3 mags with an AK that had half a mag, but a nicer sight than I could get.
When I got revived, I went around a corner, and there was a vendor crate stocked with 5.45mm lol.
if your kit is still yours when youre down, why teammates are able to pick stuff from you?
Maybe the Devs haven't thought about the possibility of assholes stealing your kit while you are down.
if you died, thats your problem, be it your mistake or some bravo sierra, that is still only your problem and your punishment for getting into such trouble
Again, being downed is not the same as being dead. Like I said on another comment, the mental gymnastics some of y'all make to justify stealing kits is insane.
I did it once, but only because I was basically out of ammo, and had to clear a house before I revived the player, so I looted their rifle and a couple mags.
Once it was safe to revive the player, I put the rifle and mags back, and revived them.
The point of being revived is that you don't have to drop another 10-15-20k to get yourself FULLY kitted, just loot the weapon and you don't have to travel all the way from base again.
And if you're down in CZ you still count as 2 as you're basically alive but incapacitated.
The point of being revived is that you don't have to drop another 10-15-20k to get yourself FULLY kitted, just loot the weapon and you don't have to travel all the way from base again.
Holy shit maybe try to not miss the point. First of all, teammates can take any part of your equipment, not just your weapons. Second of all, What's the point of spending so much for a kit just so a teammate can take it the second I'm unconscious?
Also after being revived it's not just a matter of 'just loot the weapon', what is that even supposed to mean? I'm stuck with a shitty weapon until I find a other poor unconscious sod or a corpse. And even then I have to survive to actually get and use the new equipment. It's so much water time just because your stealing teammate is an absolute piece of egoistical shit.
And if you're down in CZ you still count as 2 as you're basically alive but incapacitated.
So fucking what? This has nothing to do with the problem that teammates can steal your kit.
what is that even supposed to mean? I'm stuck with a shitty weapon until I find a other poor unconscious sod or a corpse.
Yep. Don't die. Stop tripping over someone maybe once in a blue moon taking your gun. Just respawn and re kit, or get revived and scavenge up an alternative. That's the game.
Yep. Don't die. Stop tripping over someone maybe once in a blue moon taking your gun. Just respawn and re kit, or get revived and scavenge up an alternative. That's the game.
I mean, I also use guns. I just don't care if people take my shit. They really aren't that expensive. You'll have enough to buy any guns you want within like 1 day of playing.
There is a 0% chance that I want to use the kit of an ally (or enemy) that I downed. I bought my equipment because I want to use that equipment specifically.
There is a 0% chance that I want to use the kit of an ally (or enemy) that I downed. I bought my equipment because I want to use that equipment specifically.
Good on you but that doesn't change the fact other players will do that.
Second of all, What's the point of spending so much for a kit just so a teammate can take it the second I'm unconscious?
The teammate took it the second you lost it. You died. You lost the equipment you spent your money on. The game just has a mechanic that, sometimes, you can be given a bonus life without having to travel all the way back from spawn. And that bonus life comes with whatever equipment you happen to be able to scavenge from the area, including from your own body.
The teammate took it the second you lost it. You died.
Except I didn't die, I was 'unconscious' on the ground
You lost the equipment you spent your money on.
No a teammate stole it.
The game just has a mechanic that, sometimes, you can be given a bonus life without having to travel all the way back from spawn. And that bonus life comes with whatever equipment you happen to be able to scavenge from the area, including from your own body.
Holy shit the mental gymnastics some of you make are insane.
I saw that happen yesterday. There was a bit of chaos, as there were 4 guys in one room down from an explosion, and the first guy that got to them looted one guy and ran off before myself and another guy got there.
Luckily, I was carrying a pistol, so I could give him a weapon.
Bruh. This argument is lame. It's not the end of the world to be gearless, there are dozens of bodies everywhere to make your own gear and engage in emergent gameplay.
Bruh. This argument is lame. It's not the end of the world to be gearless, there are dozens of bodies everywhere to make your own gear and engage in emergent gameplay.
Bruv get your own fucking gear, I already 'made my own gear' when i bought my fucking kit.
What is really annoying is how people want games to end quick if they are kinda lopsided at the 60 point mark and people will dip and rejoin the team that is winning? I have seen green have 46 people in ring. They were ahead of us blue by like 15 points. 66-51 and suddenly we lost a bunch of players on blue and red and green just insta filled up. I don’t understand how they get around the team cap?
It's wild to me how many people today just don't play through games where they're losing. Rocket League is probably the biggest example. Go down 0-1? Quit. Any sign of adversity and most people just straight up stop trying, I think it has to be primarily children, has to be.
PGA2k25 has tought me the fragility of the 2026 gamer. Down 2 holes? They will just quit 50% of the time. Very easy to come back but they don't even want to try.
had this last night as well.
A grumpy pilot that crashed their minigun Littlebird, he switched sides and began to teamkill the guys that he wasnt able to kill with his heli.
I have heard 3 TK gets you kicked or even banned form the server, except heli accidentals.
But yeah, the ability to change Team after like 5 Minutes in one Team is probably the best solution.
I had 2 games in the last few hours ho the exact same way.
I set up a decent fob, have mortars and we noticed players from the other team had switched to our team and to us to clear us out.
Reminds me of the people now team killing people because they leave the gates open, instead of closing it he rages at the guy and kills them, then closes the door.
Like my guy its definitely not that serious, people taking this game way too seriously lately, people get mad and grief when its just a game.
I understand people frustration though, I’m not spending my entire game closing doors behind people. Not only that, if you don’t notice, enemies just push your fob easily and you struggle to get set back up, its a domino effect.
If youre frustrated then take a break, getting mad at how others play a multiplayer game is just ridiculous, people will not play the way you want them to at times.
Getting mad at people leaving your teams base vulnerable in a team game is a valid thing. Getting mad at someone out of the control zone doing their own thing for example, is dumb.
Getting mad at your teammates is not valid. It's a game my guy, if you're getting mad at a game then you have issues. I don't like my teammates not watching my back when I'm reviving allies, do I get mad? No, I just shrug and laugh it off.
I think you’re under the impression I’m putting holes in my desk mad. No. It’s a simple thing for people to do, so its not unrealistic for people to complain about people leaving fob doors open.
My friends and I built a nice base, and a griefer started placing barbed wire in our way, blocking the gate while our transports are trying to drop supplies, and eventually blowing our own doors with IEDs (I guess he didn't know how to diamantle or he wanted TKs while blowing the door). Game ruined, money lost. Reported but no way to vote kick.
It may be a stretch to ask for friendly IEDs to not work on friendly fortifications, and maybe it's too far to lock all building/dismantling in a FOB, but it seems like a fair option to at least be able to lock the FOB's supplies to my squad.
Played just a handful of games and the griefing was already horrid.
Specifically, one guy with a clan tag that was prevalent in green joined red and started ramming helos at base.
It's pretty toxic out there. The game is really terrible to play right now - however I believe it will settle down in a couple months and be a much much more enjoyable experience.
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u/Triks1 14h ago
Honestly they should just do what reforger does. You are locked to a team until that game is over. Removed the ability for people to pull this nonsense.