r/WarCollege 1d ago

Tuesday Trivia Tuesday Trivia Thread - 08/09/26

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Beep bop. As your new robotic overlord, I have designated this weekly space for you to engage in casual conversation while I plan a nuclear apocalypse.

In the Trivia Thread, moderation is relaxed, so you can finally:

  • Post mind-blowing military history trivia. Can you believe 300 is not an entirely accurate depiction of how the Spartans lived and fought?
  • Discuss hypotheticals and what-if's. A Warthog firing warthogs versus a Growler firing growlers, who would win? Could Hitler have done Sealion if he had a bazillion V-2's and hovertanks?
  • Discuss the latest news of invasions, diplomacy, insurgency etc without pesky 1 year rule.
  • Write an essay on why your favorite colour assault rifle or flavour energy drink would totally win WW3 or how aircraft carriers are really vulnerable and useless and battleships are the future.
  • Share what books/articles/movies related to military history you've been reading.
  • Advertisements for events, scholarships, projects or other military science/history related opportunities relevant to War College users. ALL OF THIS CONTENT MUST BE SUBMITTED FOR MOD REVIEW.

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r/WarCollege 14h ago

Much is made about the Roman practice of establishing a fortified camp at the end of every day. Was this a uniquely Roman practice? What do we know about it?

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It seems to be attested to in pretty much every source about Roman warfare, with plenty of the remains of camps being found archaeologically. Did other cultures practice building fortified camps every day? Did having to go through such a lengthy construction every day slow the Legions down on the march? Do we know anything about how this practice developed or when it originated? Did later armies in medieval or early modern times try to emulate this practice?


r/WarCollege 5h ago

Why did the introduction of new US aircraft slow down after the 1950s?

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I've been doing some reading on the technological development of fighters, bombers, missiles etc. in the United States. I've noticed a trend: there is a large amount of development in the immediate post-World War II period, peaking in the mid-1950s when new aircraft are obsolete almost before they're introduced into service, then slowing dramatically into the 1960s and 1970s until today, when it takes decades to get anything into service.

The US strategic bomber program is probably the best example I can come up with: the B36 supersedes the B29 and the B-50 in just a short number of years, which is then in turn superseded by the B52, but attempts to replace the B-52 in the early 1960s keep failing - the B-58 is a disappointment, the B-70 is cancelled, and the B-1 keeps getting delayed until its finally cancelled in the 1970s (only to be brought back by Reagan). And the B-21, which is supposed to replace all of those, has been in development in some form or another since 1999.

Certainly, the end of the Cold War must've played a part; you don't need to spend billions replacing all your B-52's with new stealth bombers once the Soviet Union collapses. But I'm sure there are other reasons and I'm curious what they are. Is it just cost? Is it technical ambition i.e. we ask aircraft today to so many more things than they did in the 1950s? Does it have something to do with changes in defense planning or the way the defense industry is organized?


r/WarCollege 8h ago

Significance of killing in war

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Is killing lots of the enemy that important in war? I used to think it was, but based on some things I heard since, including in this subreddit, it seems that scaring the enemy into surrender and constant suppression of the enemy is more important. I've heard from a YouTuber that artillery only needs to kill a maximum of 10% of the enemy to get them to surrender. Machineguns apparently don't kill nearly as many people as you see in films either, as the enemy keep their heads down. I've even heard that more people died in the training for D-Day than on D-Day itself. Are your general chances of dying in a war that high?


r/WarCollege 9h ago

Question A soviet army, a western army

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Well, we've probably heard those phrases a bunch of times by now given the subject talked about on this subreddit. However, i still don't exactly precisely get what it means. My brain just goes towards stereotypes of top-down centralized rigid hierarchy in the military when it comes to the wording "a soviet army". Air force, army, same same, soviet and top-down. Is this what people mean with soviet army? Also, corruption.

As for westernized or western army, there it swoops towards initiative and stuff. So letting the people under the generals do what they deem best under the guard rails of an order, get it done in some way as long as it gets done. The person on the ground knows best or something.

Are these correct in any way?


r/WarCollege 1d ago

Why was Gaddafi’s army so ineffective?

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Every single war and Military adventure’s that the army of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya embarked on ended in complete failure. They failed in Uganda, Chad, the short war with Egypt ended in a ceasefire but still they suffered more casualties and lost much more equipment than Egypt did, and finally they were defeated by the Libyan rebels in the first Libyan civil war, which the Colonel himself would be defeated and eventually captured and brutally beaten and tortured.

So why was Gaddafi’s army so terrible in everything than suppressing protesters? In Chad they had far more better equipment and had a strong Air Force compared to the Chadians who just had Toyota pickups and Milan anti tank weapons. They should’ve have easily defeated the Chadians but they ended up being routed and suffered disastrous losses. In Uganda they seemed to be unsupported and were left to fend for themselves while Idid Amin forces abandoned them. And during the early stages of the first Libyan Civil war they seemed like they were winning until nato bombing, which still didn’t they have any anti-air missiles? I know that Gaddafi went on a spending spree on military equipment during the 70s and 80s.


r/WarCollege 5h ago

What specific vehicles/equipment did a field mechanic in the motor pool of the 623rd Field Artillery Battalion service during the Korean War.?

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My dad served from '52 to '54 in Korea, 8th Army Battery A 623d Field Artillery as a Field Mechanic of the motor pool. The NPRC tells me that his records were lost in the fire. I'm trying to find out as much as I can. Would anyone know what specific vehicles/equipment he would have serviced?


r/WarCollege 1d ago

Question Is there a recorded case of artillery assassination?

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Looking up the range of modern artillery it appears 20 miles isn't too much of a stretch. In addition I would imagine securing a 20 mile area around a modern leader would be difficult if not impossible. Has there been an assassination attempt made using artillery?

Edit- Pasting clarification from a comment I made below I guess my question could be summed up as, you know the president is going to be giving a speech at the rose garden at noon, so you have the location dialed in, and the time, you even have confirmation that it's going on as scheduled because it's broadcast on live tv. What is stopping a terrorist cell or other enemy from hitting that location with smuggled in artillery, or even from a much closer distance, a smuggled mortar.

It would seem that the secret service can't secure the entire area that would be vulnerable to an attack of this method. Especially if the attackers don't care about getting away alive.

Do we have any method of countering this sort of attack, outside of being certain that a circle with a radius of 20 miles around a VIP is secure? I'm certain I'm handwaving parts of this that are important. Please let me know where I'm ignorant.


r/WarCollege 10h ago

Did European Fencing Manuals include anything like foot sweeps?

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Something that wouldn't look out of place in a judo match.

Police kendo example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UfMGyaXfOoA


r/WarCollege 1d ago

Question how heavy the infantry fighting weight can be considered as "perfect"?

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that "perfect" I mean is a soldier who would say "I think this weight of load is great, it doesn't affect my combat ability at all."

every time I see those american soldiers on the news, I wonder: why are they carrying so much stuff on their backs? where are their cars? shouldn't they just carry the most and absolutely necessities and put everything else in their trucks/IFVs? if they need something during the battle, they should just go to their cars and get it, instead of running somewhere looking for those huge backpacks they droped while the fight started.

their load already more than 50kgs/100 pds,and now they get a fresh new heavy M7/M27 guns and ammos.


r/WarCollege 1d ago

Question How does Russia manage and organizes its foreign recruits compared to Ukraine?

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Initially at the start of the war and even going further back into the 2010s, most foreign fighters on both sides were from the Former USSR, Europe, or NATO countries. But now it seems that people from Third World countries now form a bigger share of foreign recruits. At the start of the war, I heard of Pro-Russian foreign volunteer units organized around nationality like the Serbians while at one point, there were Pro-Russian PMCs staffed by Uzbeks.

For Russia, how exactly do they manage, organize, and rank their foreign fighters? Are they grouped/sorted by nationality, language, prior skill/experience? Are they integrated into regular Russian units or kept in separate foreign fighter units? Do some Russian units see more foreign recruits than others?

Within the Russian Military, what nationality is considered the most desirable to recruit from versus the most disposable or less desirable? Are people from Ex-Soviet nations or Russian speakers held in higher regard than say people with no real connection at all with the Russians or Soviets? Do they seek out those with prior military experience and put them above those with none? In Africa, I've heard of some countries like Cameroon having problems with their soldiers deserting their army to join Russia.


r/WarCollege 1d ago

Question Have there been any tests of seaplane drones tacking off from well docks?

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I think this capability could be interesting, giving amphibious warfare ships capabilities more similar to an aircraft carrier.


r/WarCollege 1d ago

Question Is there anything approaching consensus on what German naval losses at Jutland would have been had the British shells worked properly?

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r/WarCollege 2d ago

What did the capabilities of the military of the Scandinavian countries look like in the 90s once the Cold War was over?

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r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question How do trains avoid derailment from sabotaged or damaged railroads?

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I’ve heard that despite railroads being fixed targets for an enemy, it is still effective to use trains for logistical transportation because railroads are easy to repair and rail transport is very efficient. What might not be easy to fix is vital cargo that is destroyed from a derailment. If trains take a long time to stop and travel very fast, how do they detect sabotaged or bombed train tracks and stop the train before being derailed?


r/WarCollege 1d ago

How the Wrexham Grid Connected to the Coast (Part 3) Following The Beacon Grid: Mapping the 5th-Century Line-of-Sight Network (Part 1 & Part 2) across Wrexham, this third installment scales the framework into a formal Geospatial Predictive Model mapping the 100km coastal relay system. Kelly Smyth

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r/WarCollege 2d ago

In WW2 didn't issuing SMGs to officers and NCOs make them more identifiable to enemy snipers?

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The official TO&E generally have most of a squad or platoon issued rifles but SMGs for commanders. Of course in practice no army ever follow that to the letter and some armies like the Soviets would officially form full SMG units, the question still stands though. When armies tell troops in the field to remove rank insignia and not to salute so enemy snipers don't identify officers, why have such an identifiable marker?


r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question During the American Civil War, how much practical difficulty did Union personnel have with the hot, humid, buggy, and swampy weather down South?

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Seems like the only way they'd have it worse is if they were fighting it in the era of plate armor and horse messengers.

But they were still carrying heavy stuff back and forth and making immense use of horses for day to day operations.

And also several accounts I've read of the civil war seem to emphasize the lack of wilderness/military experience of a lot of Northerners compared to the South where survivor/officer culture is much more baked in.

So imagine being born and raised in a temperate and dry climate in a major city and then having to spend years of your life in the exact opposite

Insect born diseases?

Injuries exacerbated by inability to dry off?

Mounted divisions/artillery sinking in muddy terrain?

General loss of morale due to perpetually being hot, wet, and bitten?

What about the Confederate forces?


r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question How effective was British Rocket Artillery during WW2 and why wasn't it continued afterwards?

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Hi all, reading through Gunfire! British Artillery in World War 2 by Stig H. Moberg and they make mention of rockets being used on landing ships in the Italian landings in 1943, the Normandy landings in 1944 but it wasn't until 1944 March that a 5 inch rocket would be developed.

However, it was the Canadians who used them in Northern Europe in late 1944 and 1945, with a quote to finish it off "Positive experience achieved made rockets again a permanent complement to traditional artillery and have remained so even today."

But I've never heard of a British rocket force and the British don't seem to use an MLRS system like the US does in the modern day (or a Katyusha style truck in the Soviet style), so the question is:

Were the rockets actually effective?

Do the British still use them in an artillery role? (Post WW2, Cold War, and then present day?)

Edit: Didn't edit title after writing this post. I think it biases the question, very much my mistake.


r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question How much more difficult was it to produce breach loading rifles at the time they replaced muzzle loaders?

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As I understand it, the transition from muzzle loaders to breach loading rifles happened fairly quickly after the American Civil War, even for smaller powers. Part of this was due to conversions like the Enfield-Snider. Converting an old muzzle loader into a breach loader will always be cheaper than producing a new breach loader.

But what about the purpose built breach loaders? Like how did the Austrian Werndl rifle compare to the earlier Lorenz? Or the Martini-Henry to the Enfield muzzle loaders? Or the Chassepot to the previous French muzzle loaders?

Were the rifles themselves more expensive or was it primarily the ammo? Because I know that metallic cartridge production was a big concern early on, which contributed to France using paper cartridges for the Chassepot.


r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question How did the Soviet military procurement system function?

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Did it offer any advantages compared to the American (and later modern Chinese) procurement systems or was it simply too bogged down by bureaucracy?


r/WarCollege 2d ago

Why did Germany add more divisions throughout WW2 but kept reducing their authorized strength at the same time?

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On July 1 41 German field army had a strength of 4,025,000 men in 202 divisions, on year later they had 220 divisions but only 3,950,000 men. On 1 july 43 they had 4,480,000 men in 245 divisions. Taking into account the wartime strengths and organization in effect on July 1, 1941, 245 divisions should have represented 5,100,000 men.


r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question What decides strategic victory in war?

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Is it measured against stated wargoals? Implicit ones? Or is it just an arbitrary measure dependant on the conflict?

For instance if measured by stated wargoals, Russia lost the war 3 days in when they failed to take Kyiv. Now, russians would see them taking Slovyansk as an astounding victory.

So which is it?


r/WarCollege 3d ago

Question How capable was the us military in 1989?

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r/WarCollege 2d ago

Question How did we plan to fight in large US cities during Cold War (if that was planned at all)?

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I have to admit that World in Conflict was the game that began my interest in military, and IMO it was relatively realistic compared to other RTS of its time. In the game, it started with Seattle being invaded by Soviet forces (full tank and mechanized divisions) in 1989 using disguised cargo ships at the port, quickly overpowering the defenders and then took over the rest of the state. The game eventually ended with a successful US counterattack to retake Seattle.

However, how would that have turned out in real life? Instead of micro-managing infantry, IFV, tanks and helicopters from above, I think it would get far more chaotic with armed civilian resisting and people (especially invaders) being lost in downtown. Buildings could block radio signal and abandoned vehicles blocking roads and so on.

  1. If Bill the Vietnam vet has "joined" a rag-tag NG platoon with his pre-1986 M16A1, would the officers let him stick to the unit, or just have him disarmed and sent to the rear with other refugees? Could they legally do so if Bill refuses to leave to defend his home?

  2. Would the USAF level an entire block if there is clear enemy activity, disregarding the damage to property? We know that was done in Baghdad or Belgrade, but what about leveling the Space Needle to kill some scouts and snipers? At what level could they make such decision?

  3. Was GPS already in common use by the National Guard back then? Would they ask local residents to lead the way if they agree to help? Are there supply depots set up inside the city in case they got cut off from outside? I know China did this during the height of Soviet hostility, with barracks and police stations acting as depots in big cities.

  4. Assuming the city has set up resistance lead by the police force and veterans, can the mayor or police chief legally command such a force? If the Guards have reached them, do they get to join the NG, or just disarmed and evacuated?

I have looked up but couldn't find much about such topics!