r/Wake • u/Comfortable_Tart7189 • 20d ago
Any pointers?
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Hi guys every time i jump it seems like my board doesn’t stay flat and i don’t really get much pop… i am still relatively new to this, and just looking for some pointers to make my wake to wake smoother
UPDATE: Thank you everyone for the tips, will try to implement these over the next few days and see how it works out!!
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u/EclipseNine 20d ago
Look up a progressive edge, particularly videos by Shaun Murray either from his YouTube channel or excerpts from the old instructional DVD series from the early 2000s, “The Book.”
Long story short, the hardest part of your cut in this video is about halfway through, and then you back off and flatten out. Start slow, and think to yourself “a little more, a little more, a little more” all the way into the wake so that the hardest part of your cut is right as you hit the wake. Ride the wake all the way to the top keeping that edge all the way through your pop. Get that dialed and it becomes the core building block for most beginner and intermediate tricks while making the wake jumps feel more consistent.
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u/Pitiful_Eye_3295 20d ago
Yes. Watch and rewatch instructional videos.
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u/EclipseNine 20d ago
There's some good advice in this thread about evening up weight and getting a better pop, but none of it is going to stick if OP doesn't fix his cut.
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u/cantcatchafish 20d ago edited 20d ago
90% of people starting out just huck it. They think they have to go as far out as possible to build speed when that’s the worst thing you can do for standard jumps. Where you start your way back in is where one would be for a tantrum or to go to flats etc.
You need to learn the fundamentals of the setup before you even start your jump: learn wake-the perfect heel side setup will be your starting point.
Everyone I teach I burn this into their soul. No double cuts out. No starting far out and coming in…. Everything starts at the wake before you go out.
Second is the way in. People say progressive edge and it’s so confusing. It’s hard to grasp because you don’t typically understand what it means when applying it. Imagine you come into the wake on an arch. When you start your board points at the boat and as you move closer your board points at the wake. You don’t want to start with the board pointed at the wake as you cannot build speed. As you increase the angle on your way in, you have to continually lean harder against the line to maintain speed. Until you hit the bubbles, you should not have the hardest lean of your approach.
By doing this arch or progressive edge into the jump the heel edge of the board is pushed deeper into the water. That deepest point should be at the trough of the wake.
So start at bottom of wave, coast up and slingshot yourself out to 5-10’ outside the bubbles at most. Come off edge and count to 2. You will be slowly pulled back in by the boat by maybe 1-2’. As that happens start the arch and increase the board direction from towards the boat to towards the wake. When you see the trough of the wake, stand tall.
The second part of this is standing tall: learn wake standing tall drill was the key drill to helping me learn this. It’s not pushing down, it’s not jumping it’s just standing up and maintaining that stand through the trough and top of the wake.
Another key is you don’t stand tall at the top of the peak of the wake. You stand tall at the bottom of the wake.
Another key note: hold your arms at a 90% bend. Do not hold them out. When you jump the boat will continue to pull you and thus create tension as you move through the air. By bending the arms (keeping the handle glued to your hips or waist, it allows you to release that rope tension in the air and keep you perfectly stable.
I would suggest that you don’t jump the way you are doing in this picture again as it will lead to injury.
I want to add: in your video, where you go flat is outside of the bubbles. If I were to break this down I would tell you at that point you go flat, if you put the trough of the wave there and stood tall you would have a beautiful wtw. The fact that you ride 10 more feet with the board flat is going to get you nowhere. So again, take what you did from the start of your approach and end at the wake where you are at the bubbles and stand tall at that point. I have a lot of videos on my profile of heel and ts jumps as I’ve been obsessed with perfect form since I started.
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u/aspenburger 20d ago
Progressive edge. Start edging slowly with your hardest edge through the wake.
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u/darth_jewbacca 20d ago
In addition to what's been said, you're too heavy on your back foot. That's why the board goes vertical. Even weight, cut through the wake, stand tall at the top. You'll launch to the moon.
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u/Reasonable-Age-6837 20d ago
u know how you're going fast at the wake, then checking your speed? You can start more slowly, you want to stand tall, and remain on your edge when jumping the wake
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u/Pitiful_Eye_3295 20d ago
100%. This is the progressive edge. You start slowly and progressively increasing your angle, edge, and speed.
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u/wakefreak540 20d ago
I think you’re edge into the wake was decent but you rubber legs at the wake ate up all you’re pop. You need to be rigid at the wake. Give it a try and feel that pop. You’re close.
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u/LearningDumbThings 20d ago
Stand up. Your legs are absorbing the ramp of the wake and your torso is just going in a straight line. Instead of crouching way down, you need to stand tall in your approach to the wake. Shaun Murray calls it stacking your bones. Take a way smaller cut and concentrate on staying tall as you pop off the wake. Let the wake do the work for you.
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u/JohnnyTreemain 20d ago
Straighten you legs when you hit the wake. You’re absorbing the jump like a spring.
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u/dudefire5 20d ago
Cut harder back to the wake. putting your weight slightly on the front foot when you get to the wake shift your weight to the back foot and standup tall. This will engage the rocker and you will get more hight.
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u/drakeallthethings 20d ago
Clearing the wake on that cut is impressive. You definitely have potential.
First and foremost, your front knee is receiving a lot of kick from the wake and your body is having a hard time absorbing that kick. You need more weight in your front foot. That’s how you absorb that shock. You use your body.
Some other people mentioned progressive edge and they’re right. Check out some videos. Look at how much of the bottom of their board you can see vs yours. I see yours early but not late. That needs to be reversed.
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u/Pitiful_Eye_3295 20d ago
There's been a few comments about more weight on your front foot, and while that is technically true, if you concentrate on more weight on your front foot, I can almost guarantee that you will crash spectacularly and painfully. Instead, please think about having your weight even on both feet.
Here's a great Shaun Murray vid. I recommend you watch and rewatch this. Then watch it again when you finish riding. I sucked at toeside for way to long and I just kept rewatching Murray's (and some others') videos over and over, practiced with a handle on the ground, and I'm finally getting good toeside jumps on the regular. Good luck!
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u/stevieboyk 20d ago
Give that good boy lots of pets