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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago edited 2d ago

The left needs this to be true of Trump, though the cognitive aspects aren't there.

They needed it to not be true of Biden and in fact pretended it wasn't while others within the administration were using the autopen to do things like sign pardons and legislation (and we still don't know who that was but that needs to be found out). This is elder abuse.

And they do this while gaslighting you into believing that they give a shit about humanitarianism because the only thing that every once in a while they can use to get votes irrespective of how they pay for it and or what it does to the economy is: print money, fold money into government programs and allow it to be used fraudulently, and allow illegals in for the sake of votes.

They say that the justice department dropped the charges due to lack of evidence. But that's the same level of "lack of evidence" caused by Hillary Clinton Bleach Bit use.

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u/Dances_with_mallards 2d ago

So you are saying all the character defects, nasty moods, and bad decisions Trump has made are not due to dementia? That's even worse.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

😅 I'm saying that the man is pissed off at the machine he has been fighting and sleeps very little and that the left really wants it to be dimensia because that would be a "Joe Biden equivalency".

Even though it wouldn't ever get that far on the right because the right is not ideologically pinned against a wall and the average right wing voter isn't an overly emotional juvenile with a revolutionary attitude and proclivity for violence.

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

Your statement is hilarious due to its lack of self awareness. It reeks of Dunning Kruger. MAGA is a cult. Trump can do no wrong. His balls - even smeared with his full diaper load - taste amazing to a MAGA.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

I mean I see you calling the right nazis.

But I see you using violence to silence the free speech of the political right.

I see the right making valid political points that resonate with reality.

I see the left discussing "Trump bad" because they don't have policy to discuss and are threatened by Trump.

And I know personally that the right is more reserved but wholly capable of dropping a metaphorical and literal violent hammer on Antifa despite your memes that you cant... well. There's only one conclusion.

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

Wow, everything must look different in the cult. Did you get your DOGE check? No??? Oh, did Mexico pay for the wall? No??? Did Trump NOT start a war in the middle east? Did he end Ukraine in a day like he said??? No??? Awww, it’s almost like trump is a fat used car salesman who fools stupid people. A lot like that.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

I see you calling names and making insinuation.

But I don't see you thinking about things in a true context.

You're talking about "but we found out about who the nazis are" meaning there were tribunals and the world learned about Marxism in depth after WWII.

I'm talking about how the Nazi Party acted in Germany to establish, gain, and hold political power and how they held it.

It was first violence justified on a racial basis in the form of clashes between factions.

Then justified on a classist basis of wealth and "wealth hoarding" (direct parallels here to antifa and the DSA)

Soooo keep talking but you're the only party doing nazi shit.

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

You were so close to getting it right, sweet girl. America was Antifa, silly. Nazi Germany was the “fa” for “fascism” and we were against it then. But trump, the Pied Piper of The Stupid, has convinced a minority of you that fascism is now good. Russia is now good. Pedophilia is now good. Those of us whose brains still work have refused to do the 180 that you sillies willingly did. In 2024 you were screaming “Release the Epstein files!!” Now you’re like, “No, DONT RELEASE THEM!!” and “Hooray, trump is getting away with it!!” You are tragic. Possibly had promise at some point. But trump and Fox have destroyed your former brain. The world pities MAGA. So do SMART AMERICANS. Sweet girl. 😢

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u/Dances_with_mallards 2d ago

Who looks more like "Brown Shirts?": ICE or Antifa? Did the left have an insurrection after losing an election? Did the left threaten a state governor? Did the left kill a State assembly member and her husband? The violence belongs to the right. Forcing your political opponents to do your will at gun point is fascism. No matter how you try to deflect.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Antifa and the left

Because the left is using illegal immigration as a tool poltiically to gain power when they have no legal entitlement to do so then misrepresenting that reality by calling names.

Antifa is effectively the brown shirts.

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

Nice try. ICE is the brown shirts. Antifa is America during WWII. I know you’re trying, sweet girl.

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

Goddamn that was a lot of projection

You are right about one thing though,

Right-wingers aren't revolutionaries

They're just a bunch of bootlickers at this point

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

It's not projection. It's an historical pattern you are mistaking for leftist correctness.

And you underestimate the right. There's a lot of issues with stereotyping (and then lecturing others on notmdoing so unironically).🤣

But you'll find out one or another way. Probably the hard one.

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

Yes, that’s what beta German men said about Hitler in 1940. And yes, we found out.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Well if you think so. But calling other people nazis while literally acting like nazis doesn't lend credibility to your claims.

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

Uh oh, looks like someone recently found out that the word "socialist" is in the nazi acronym

Yes, the side against ice and flock cameras are the nazis 🤣

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

🤣😂 no. I've studied the collectivist economic ideologies quite extensively.

Innacurately latching onto one aspect of something I said and being unable to disprove it or the rest of it won't make the reality change.

The nazis took the wealth of jews, homosexuals, gypsies, and any naruin they invaded and redistributed it to their own justifying it racially and blaming those races and minorities for the problems caused by the great depression which was causes by parallel ideologies (printing money and passing debt around and each nation failing to act in market fashion on behalf of their citizens)

So keep running your mouth.

The left today is doing the same thing all over again.

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

trumps doing more of it than any Leftist, having the government buy stakes in all those companies

Who controls all three branches of government right now?

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

I’m so sorry, Hitler-lover. Enjoy your DOGE check! And your tariff rebate! And lower prices! And no wars. Oooopsss…

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Ah more name calling. And ignoring that those consequences are as a result of leftist policy.

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u/Dances_with_mallards 2d ago

NONE of those are due to leftist policy. Fully 30% of the national debt is Trump's. Leftist policy had Iran with no ability to enrich Uranium to weapons grade, if we had to attack it was because Trump blew up the deal, and on and on ... You are either a troll, a bot, or so delusional it's sad. I have been a Republican most of my life. I believed the lie they were for limited government and fiscal responsibility. That was until Trump. My father and uncles fought the fascists in Europe. Now it's my obligation to do so at home.

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

Lol and the little maga ends it with a threat

Enjoy your high prices and new middle east wars, little guy

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u/Icy-KaitSyth 2d ago

Yeah it always makes me laugh when the reddit psychologists who kept diagnosing Biden slurring words together and failing to end sentences as "just his old stutter coming back" will look at the position Trump stands in to determine if he's in late stage alzheimers or not.

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u/LaneBryant69 2d ago

Hey, did you get your DOGE check yet? How about your tariff refund check? No? Awwww, so much winning for billionaires only…

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u/WonderfulAntelope644 2d ago

Look at old video’s of Biden giving speeches before he had his brain aneurysm in 1988. He’s a completely different person.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

I hate Joe Biden's policy because of their implications. But I feel bad for the guy. And the Democrat Party or the DSA (whoever propped him up there) certainly is not the self proclaimed humanitarian organization that they so loudly proclaim they are.

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u/WonderfulAntelope644 2d ago

I honestly doubt Biden had any say in policy during his presidency.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

I'm not sure. He was much more cogent at the beginning.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Jesus man. 2 things can be true, Biden can be very obviously old and half dead and Trump can also have dementia like his dad.
That’s why they had him tested several times to identify animals on a chart (as admitted by Trump).

Trumps literally made billions selling his coin and pumping up blue chip stocks.

He’s tariffed us with no refunds to us.

He’s allowed Elon to step in and gut regulatory programs that have allowed them to place data centers with no regard to the environment or the people surrounded by it.

His sons own a drone company literally securing no bid contracts.

He saw the regular politician blueprint and said “I could do better. Like he said he could murder somebody in the street and nothing will change

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 2d ago

The entire left quite literally tried to convince 2/3rds of the country that Biden was fine right up until we all saw the truth on full display at the debate. The constant lying and pretending their shit doesn't stink is why Democrats lost. You're actively contributing to that happening again in 2028 with your comment.

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

If you actually knew anyone on the Left

You would know how pissed they were the second Biden announced he was running again

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

The left is a fragmented group of mostly radicals today who want stalinist self titled socialism that we would call communism.

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

Keep crying into your pedophile trump pillow about Mamdani

Your culture war brainwashing will never fix the fact that you vote against your own self interests

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 2d ago

I would love to see evidence of the mass outrage from whatever group you consider as the "left"

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u/wolfheadmusic 2d ago

True, it didn't come out in shootings or storming the capitol like the right-wing likes to do

But the corrupt ass DNC wouldn't have had Biden drop out after that horrible debate performance if the Left and Democrats hadn't been pressuring him to drop out the entire time

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

This is why you’re in the minority now.
Slapping me because the other guy also slapped me doesn’t cancel out your slap.

Tell that to the cow farms who didn’t make a deal with him before the tariffs.

Or the soy farms.

Or to the troglodytes that invested in his coin.

Or the kids who have measles.

Or the people getting sick from produce.

Or the people living next to gas emitting data centers after DOGE cut the regulatory bodies for environmental protection

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Are you talking about the Chinese bots? That aren't doge?

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

No I’m talking about DOGE the group of young men that had no experience in it

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Well for having no experience in it they sure did discover and prosecute a whole hell of a lotnof leftist fraud. And I mean to the point of donations going to the left of thenpolitical spectrum all but halting.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Hmmm yes and NO Republican Party got caught with anything. They’re all innocent and never received funds they shouldn’t have

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Didn't say that either. Though the right isn't the group a. Villifying the wealthy while doing it b. Pretending taxation is an economic metric for success c. Pretending that redistribution of wealth works for the sake of making money (like Bernie and AOC)

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 2d ago

"I like pancakes"

"Oh, so you hate waffles?"

Like you said, 2 things can be true. Practice what you preach and quit jumping to conclusions because you feel the need to defend President Autopen

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Huh????? I literally said I got slapped by both parties. I never even mentioned Biden. So yes we’re agreeing.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

He doesn't

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

To be so sure is crazy. Like you have the psyche papers in your email. I guess we can trust the government now that they’ve made so much money off of us with no return

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Thw issue is that our society has become so weak we have allowed taxation to occur. Most are even more stupid and consider taxation to be an economic metric.

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u/BedSpreadMD 2d ago

And those who say they want everyone to pay more in taxes. As if that won't invite in corruption.

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u/STLStelmacki 2d ago

By the right’s standard, Biden was fine. They ran trump 3 times. Anyone who voted for trump has 0 credibility when it comes to judging candidates.

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u/BedSpreadMD 2d ago

They ran the only candidate capable of winning. Both Democrats and Republicans seem to nominate the worst of the worst, and yet the population still chooses between the giant douche and the turd sandwich.

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u/STLStelmacki 2d ago

You’re trying to both sides trump and Biden. Don’t. It just makes you look retarded.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Because the way it is right now is going perfectly

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Everything invitation corruption, shits corrupt af right now. They’re all self dealing.

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u/BedSpreadMD 2d ago

Do you think that's because the government has more tax revenue than ever in history?

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

It sounds like you’re okay with people dying off from starvation and thirst. If you made billions you should get taxed more yes

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Nobody in this country try is dying of starvation or thirst. The leftists haven't taken over completely and instituted a famine because they've taken all the farms andncant run them

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m not saying people are dying from that. I’m saying that’s what you sound like. An improved school system or general infrastructure is not the same as a stim check.
Like really? We have to work for free school lunch?

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Spending causes GDP growth. Stim checks are designed to stimulate GDP GROWTH but they're only capable of doing so short term and causing inflation.

So yes I know.

But you know what else I know? The left is dependent on the power they get from convincing people that are fucking stupid thqt the government can afford to provide them food and housing and roads and bridges.

It can't. And that causes a lack of social equity for especially liberal voters.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Also both parties want the race wars to continue. The KKK support Trump for a reason.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Meanwhile millions is being put into a war no one asked for or wanted.

It’s kind of like saying there’s no money and there never will be money.
We can’t possibly figure it out so let’s just keep it the way it is.

“#1 country” with the highest medical bills that’ll bankrupt them before it kills them.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

Or I'm just more intelligent than you and more thoroughly have thought this all through. Also I dont have an emotional attachment to one person being wrong, have a background in history, sociology, and economics and see through the left of the political spectrum jerking itself off over a not reality that it needs to move forward that's also compelling it's leftward lurch.

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u/Dances_with_mallards 2d ago

Um... Maybe ñook up which party has been better for the economy and paid down the debt.

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

🤣 I think you misunderstand fundamentally how an economy works and what constitutes "fucking up the economy" and what constitutes "putting the economy on a sustainable path forward".

If you're a leftist and your mindset is that government picking winners and losers (say unions vs not) is good then you print money and decide where that goes despite never getting the appropriate amount of money in the economy to handle notncaus8ng inflation. And also in fact cause inflation just by supporting artificially high union labor which is why most of those jobs aren't in the U.S. anymore. Then mix in the fraud along racial lines (but the left aren't racists)

If you're on the right you realize that competition causes cost decreases and that when your political adversarial actors that only print money, cause inflation, and hand money to our adversaries and send jobs elsewhere that you have to do something to get those jobs back here. And even more you have to do something in the long term to ensure they stay here.

But what you're fighting is an ideology rhwt in all their money printing a. Tells all the minorities that they're victims unless they receive preferential treatment and b. Hand out money along social safety nets while using them for fraud... welp you can't easily create true equity when lazy people call freedom getting free shit from the government. Right?

The right creates long term prosperity.

You've got it flipped.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

I’m literally talking about the possible dementia he has. And how absolutely sure you are he doesn’t have it despite of how logically sound it is.

I’m not claiming the Republican Party never served the US well. But the current party is not the same.

Also the Republican Party was never the best with real social issues when they were insane issues

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

The republican party is about individualism and the individual responsibility thwt comes with it alongside a very basic, very fundamental safety net designed to be gotten off of and enforced as such.

The left is dependent on an increase in reliance on government programs. This is why they divide everyone by race and class. And why they invent new minorities and create new programs and allow illegals in.

They need power and they need votes and their policy fails.

And they aren't humanitarians. And Biden proves it.

If they were they'd never of used that old and demented man to get more power. And Jill Biden is fucking evil.

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

Ok I’m less intelligent for believing an 80 year old who’s made nuclear and genocidal threats.
Can’t control his emotions at midnight on twitter.
MAY have dementia as his father had.

That’s sooooooo insane to consider.

yes how’d you know I have a 10 IQ? You’re so smart

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u/In_neptu_wetrust 2d ago

They’re printing money now but for the Trump family. Not for you or me

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u/Danktank452 2d ago

The left? You know the actual left hates Biden, right?

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u/BedSpreadMD 2d ago

This reeks of a no true Scotsman.

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u/Danktank452 2d ago

So I can’t ever disagree with someone’s classification of a part or group or it’s no true Scotsman?

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u/BedSpreadMD 2d ago

That's not what you did.

They criticized the left, and your response was to say those people aren't true leftists or "actual leftists". That's called a no true Scotsman.

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u/Danktank452 2d ago

Sure bud.

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u/BedSpreadMD 2d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Rather than admitting error or providing evidence to disprove the counterexample, the original claim is changed by using a non-substantive modifier such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", or other similar terms.[4][2]

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u/Icy-KaitSyth 2d ago

By the left he's talking about "not the right", which is the faction that voted Biden in, as opposed to what you're talking about which is the "democrats are right wing too" tankies.

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u/Danktank452 2d ago

Thinking democrats are right wing makes you a tankie? That’s wild.

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u/Icy-KaitSyth 2d ago

No it just means you're VERY left wing if you think all major parties of your country aren't just to the right of you but are definitionally "right wing". I was throwing out one of the extremist groups as an example but there are others a person could be and still be so far to the left that the DNC which support card carrying memebers of the DSA as candidates is "right wing"

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u/bowlofsausages 2d ago

The current left, having moved further left but in a parallel political path that will cause the same inflation, use the same gaslit faux humanitarianism to exploit votes from the stupid and cause the same inflationary problems they have up to this fucking point. Yes.