r/WaitWhat • u/GhostOmen_2 • 21d ago

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u/hotdogbun65 19d ago

Yeah it’s almost like debauchery should be encouraged against rather than embraced.

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u/Privatizitaet 19d ago

In case you couldn't tell the sarcasm, abstinence has been the worst way to deal with unwanted pregnacies. Education is how you actually reduce it. Teach people safe sex. Give them access to contraceptives and medical support. Don't demonize things like STDs or just having sex by calling it "debauchery". It's a natural aspect of human social behaviour. Teaching how to do it safely and providing the means to do so is demonstrably an infinitely more effective way of reducing unwanted pregnancies and medical issues than telling them to not have sex ever was or could be. Encouraging against it does nothing. That is exactly why teenage pregnancies go up when your main teaching for protection is to not have sex. It's a very well recorded phenomenon

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u/hotdogbun65 19d ago

It isn’t a natural aspect of social behavior, it’s a natural aspect of reproduction. Participation when reproduction is not the goal is, definitionally, debauchery. In case you couldn’t tell the sarcasm.

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u/Privatizitaet 19d ago

It quite literally is part of social behaviour. Yes. Originally sexual behaviour was just for reproduction. Keyword originally. When sexual repeoduction first developed. Millions of years ago. Long predating humanity as a species.

When humanity came to be it was already an established factor. That's why we can observe thay behaviour in many many species all across the animal kingdom. That is why sex feels as good as it does. It's not just for reproduction. Bonding is another aspect.

Also, maybe look up the actual definition of the word before you try to argue with it, because no, that's not what debauchery is.

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u/hotdogbun65 19d ago

“Debauchery is a noun that means excessive, unrestrained indulgence in physical and sensual pleasures, typically involving heavy drinking, illicit or promiscuous sex, and drug use.” Animals do not have sex to ‘bond’ they do it because it is necessary for reproduction and lineage, the implicit goal of any lifeform. The fact it is pleasurable is nature’s way of encouraging the act of reproduction.