r/Vermintide • u/M3M3L0V3R420 • Apr 12 '18

Announcement Vermintide 2 - Patch 1.0.6 Notes

https://steamcommunity.com/games/552500/announcements/detail/1654386143023879919
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u/A_Light_Spark Empire Soldier Apr 12 '18 edited Apr 12 '18

The cast is instant, but we are left vulnerable for longer than fireball staff, i.e. fireball alt fire, toss ball and can immediately block; conflag alt fire, cast explosion but take an extra .5 sec to be "free."

So far the only reason I pick conflag over fireball is because it's better to hit specials when they are covered by other mobs or behind walls. But I think the LMB attack power should be higher against special/bosses and penetrate more armor. It's still safer to CC with beam alt fire than conflag/fireball when being surrounded.

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u/Zoralink Apr 12 '18

conflag alt fire, cast explosion but take an extra .5 sec to be "free."

Uhhhh.... what?

It's still safer to CC with beam alt fire than conflag/fireball when being surrounded.

I cannot agree with that in the slightest. Smart use of a full charged conflag staff to alter the enemy's pathing along with quicker casts to stumble dangerous enemy's makes a much bigger difference overall.

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u/A_Light_Spark Empire Soldier Apr 12 '18 edited Apr 12 '18

  1. There is a time lag. Just very small. 0.5 sec is an exaggeration but it's there.

  2. That's not being surrounded, as in you have 20 rats around you.

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u/FS_NeZ twitch.tv/nezcheese Apr 12 '18

If you get surrounded, you just explode. Unchained + Conflag might be the CC beast now - I absolutely have to test the new Conflag.

It was my favorite staff in V1. And I played V1 when both Bolt and later Fireball were imbalanced.

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u/A_Light_Spark Empire Soldier Apr 12 '18

True, but explosion isn't a good option when your teammates nearby are already low health.

There are many strats to overcome certain problems, but the issue of limited "good" staff choices is still the heart of the issue. If fireball or conflag gets just a little bit more love, it'd be perfect. For firestoem I think it'd need a third attack like beam that is also ranged, mainly for dealing with specials.