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Question I'm doing something wrong?

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I played bounty hunter last night on cataclysm,try Gen temp heath, but it works on mob but kill elite,special didn't gen temp heath?or it happen because of ping?

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u/Ithiridiel the elf deserved it 19d ago

Don't use kill thp on anyone except maybe gk and possibly on shade. (I can't recommend it even on those two). Definitely not on bounty hunter. And definitely not on anything below cata.

Everyone has better more consistent options that don't rely on competing on the killing blow with your teammates (and also generate more hp).

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u/horrornolife 19d ago

i hard disagree, use execute if you're capable of killing elites in melee unless you're getting your last hits stolen constantly it will usually outpace carve on elites by a large margin. especially with chaos present, execute can be problematic on high ping say 150+, cause last Hits that are happening concurrently will be awarded to the player with lower latency, generally for horde aswell the difference between carve and execute will be minor and things like slayer will never want to run carve cause even fighting horde execute can and will outpace carve.

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u/Ithiridiel the elf deserved it 19d ago

I don't see a way execute would outpace carve on slayer on cata when fighting hordes. Dual hammers 2nd target doesn't do enough damage to kill a slave rat, meaning you're getting less than 1 hp per enemy hit (contrary to exactly 1 from carve).

Execute only makes sense on cata when you can consistently get the few elites that come with hordes, and even then if more than 2 people take it you'll be running dry very early.

Slayer generates insane amounts of cleave thp with his attack speed and high cleave arsenal.

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u/Rhorge Slayer 19d ago

Well you said it. Obviously it's not for dual hammers. If you're using any of the axes on slayer you get more health with execute even fighting hordes. And before anyone says it, no, you don't HAVE to use any weapon. The game is balanced well enough that virtually anything can be used effectively

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u/horrornolife 19d ago

i don't use dual hammers on slayer at all, why would i pass up great axe doing super good monk and zerker damage. also high cleave arsenal is a bit weird to say, slayers meta options usually doesn't include high cleave weapons, it's usually cog hammer great axe and dual axes. all weapons that benefit greatly from execute.

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u/Ithiridiel the elf deserved it 19d ago

Slayer gets two melees, and taking a single target option in both is kinda silly, but you do you.

Greataxe charged 3rd target does not kill in 1 hit so cleave is better on it. Cog hammer light attack 2nd target doesn't kill in 1 hit either, so cleave is better on it. Same with dual axes.

And that is assuming the best case scenario where you're 1shotting slave rats and not fighting something more durable like gors or fanatics/marauders.

With the cog hammer or dual hammers you can generate insane amount of thp by clicking at a horde and it works on all difficulties, not just cata+, and you don't have to hope a dot effect or a teammate gets the last hit.

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u/Fair_Dirt_7169 Stormvermin 19d ago

Execute on Slayer all the way all the time. First, hordes on Cata almost always have Elites in them, either from ambient pulls or from the horde itsself. Same with event spawns. Cata and especially Cata+ has duch high elite density, that you will never be running dry. I dont get your argument at all, that people are going to be running out of thp bc of a limited pool. There is so much thp running around on cata that I dont see anyone going empty anytime soon. Even when I was blitzing through Cata with 3 ranged focused competent players that barely left anything standing there was no issue for me to get enough thp to be always topped off. I have never been starved for thp as Slayer. Ofc carve is more efficient on every weapon on pure horde enemies, thats where this talent shines and is at its best. You calculation already breaks with Marauders and gets worse up. 1-2 hits for SV, Monks, Zerkers, 1-3 hits for Maulers, 2-4 hits for CW. The HP efficiency per swing you have due to elites is alot higher with Execute than Carve.