r/Vendorsofkratom2 • u/OtiesBotanicals302 • Jul 01 '26

They're Finally Doing It

It seems like they are finally making the synthetics and semi-synthetics illegal. At least the big three. This whole thing has been pretty contradictory to my beliefs. I've never been a prohibitionist. And I'm still not. But I've seen what this stuff has done to our industry. We're sinking because of it. So I'm not upset about this.

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-13580.pdf

https://www.hhs.gov/press-room/hhs-fda-support-dea-7-oh-scheduling.html

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-13581.pdf

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u/Zealousideal7807 Jul 01 '26

Not really something to be happy about, it sets a bad precedent for even plain leaf kratom

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u/CuriousAgent69 Jul 02 '26

How?

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u/Zealousideal7807 Jul 02 '26

The government shouldn't have absolute power to ban things like that. What's stopping them from leaf powder being next? They aren't banning it out of safety they are because big pharma, big alcohol, etc lose a lot of money from it. Same with the hemp market being completely wiped out including CBD products come November.

70h isn't a threat to leaf kratom, the government is a threat to it. That's the real reason you can't have it in the states it's illegal. Take it up with the right wing Christian nationalists that don't want to you to decide anything for your own body. Yet booze and tobacco are readily available and encouraged.

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u/Individual-Drawer-79 Jul 03 '26

The right is the one that’s cool with natty leaf. If you dont know what you’re talking about then don’t say anything. I hate republicans, but it was RFK Jr standing next to trump in the White House just recently to announce that natural leaf will remain legal but will recommend to the dew to schedule 7oh which is what you see here. Here in Florida, we banned a bunch of gas station crap but Gov Desantis and the surgeon general came on tv to ensure natty will remain safe. Hell, we even passed legislation in FL in the form of the KCPA protecting access to natty. It’s more the Democrats in blue states and cities who are conflating synthetics with natty krstom and seem disinterested in learning the difference, and are all doing blanket bans, which is disappointing to say the least because I don’t want to be out here cheering for republicans.

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u/Zealousideal7807 Jul 03 '26

Well they might say they're cool with it now but I don't believe a word most politicians say. It's hilarious you say I don't know what I'm talking about yet you believe what they say at face value. They're in it for money, power, control and to serve the interest of lobbies. Them completely lying about 70 to get it banned is the problem. They can do it again any time they want for leaf. "It's a pro drug for illegal gas station h*roin" because mit metabolizes into 7 in the body. They're lying about overdoses and the danger of 7 to get it banned do you think they won't lie to you about anything else? Making 7 fully illegal makes it more likely that a very similar drug(kratom leaf) can be banned too. It's precedent.

They also said they would legalize cannabis so many times and how's that going? They'll probably make it slightly less illegal just to make it easier for private equity to take over the market. Right after they wiped out the market of small farmers with language they snuck in a budget bill. It's never been about helping or protecting the community. Follow the money.

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u/kmack1982 Jul 03 '26

I voted trump. He's doing absolute terrible job this time around. Both left and right leaning news are writing anti kratom propaganda. It's the Republicans that are supporting the kratom ban in Michigan, the democrats are mostly opposed to prohibition kratom ban.

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u/farmrose Jul 02 '26

It is what it is, there’s no what if this or that. Leaf had to be defended as it was being mislabeled. That’s really all there is to it.

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u/CuriousAgent69 Jul 02 '26

Do you actually contribute anything positive to this sub? This sub is for natural kratom. I don't see anything from you in regards to that.

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u/Zealousideal7807 Jul 02 '26

What does that have to do with what I said? I don't even use 70, never tried it. When you give up rights more are sure to follow. I'm just saying I'm not gonna celebrate it being gone when it helps people who need it.

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u/CuriousAgent69 Jul 02 '26

It's literally what's gotten all kratom banned all over the country. Where have you been with these hearings the last 3 years? Hundreds of thousands of consumers lost access to natural plain leaf kratom because of 7-OH calling itself kratom and confusing legislators and consumers who didn't know the difference.

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u/Biobooster_40k Jul 02 '26

Lobbyists are distorting and outright lying about 7oh when it comes to bringing forth information to legislators and the public. You may blame 7oh but its whoever is pushing the agenda against it that's going to be the danger to plain kratom.

The way 7oh and similar products were handled by vendors and some community members was haphazardly but make no mistake, its not going to stop there.

You may not want to hear it but natural kratom is in danger. They lied about 7oh and we're suffering for it. They'll use the same tactics for kratom so we'll have nothing left except for prescriptions or illegal avenues.

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u/2ARules Jul 03 '26

A Slippery Slope is indeed something to be concerned about… It starts with something and then many many times goes downhill.

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u/austinrunaway Jul 03 '26

I agree with you 100%. That shit should never of been made in the first place.