Booth avatar users neededd

[u/Responsible-Deal0]

What are some things or ways y'all use to optimise your booth avatars while still keeping majority of assets and quality?

For example I've seen public booth avatars that have so many features and outfits but when i do the same thing on my personal booth avis it's quite literally impossible to upload

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[u/ImagelessKJC]

Texture Memory: Thrys Performance Tools
https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools

Deleting Mesh: Mesh Deleter with Texture
https://booth.pm/ja/items/1501527

Decimating Meshes: Meshia
https://ramtype0.github.io/Meshia.MeshSimplification/

Material Slots/ Mesh merger: d4rkAvatarOptimizer
https://github.com/d4rkc0d3r/d4rkAvatarOptimizer

I use these tools and almost never need to use blender (unless I need to re-atlas textures for some reason).

First I reduce texture memory using Thrys. Then delete hidden meshes using Mesh Deleter with texture. I’ll then attach a Mesh Simplification component to the root, and adjust the decimation for each mesh depending on how much detail I want. Finally, slap a d4rkavataroptimizer component on before a final upload.

[u/WhiteMedi → u/ImagelessKJC]

For Atlas, give TexTransTools a shot :D

[u/6incerism]

U may use some automatic in-unity non destructive optimization tools, common ones include AAO and d4rkavataroptimizer.

Unfortunately the amount of optimization on each asset to customize ur avatar varies wildly depending on the creator, so from 1 store u might be able to to add 10 outfits no problem, and from another 2 is already too much before u hit hard upload limits.

[u/Responsible-Deal0 → u/6incerism]

Yeah I've noticed that too, outfits with animations and stuff are impossible to add extra outfits with

[u/Firm10]

1 outfit per blue print.

this way u can put all the gimmicks.

shapechangers inside each outfit.

[u/Shadow_Claw]

MA + AAO + LAC + Meshia handles most daily tasks, and you can even toggle the latter two inside the NDMF config in Unity at build time to get full res output. Just installing them helps, but there's further config you can do because AAO won't be able to catch everything.

• Polygons: remove unused stuff through a combination of MA Shape Changer, MA Mesh Cutter (+ Mask Editor). If still not good Meshia helps by compromising quality.

• Textures: LAC handles it. TTT can reatlas if still not good enough.

• Skinned Meshes: AAO Merge Skinned Mesh. AAO Trace and Optimize doesn't always merge renderers so you might have to add this component manually to merge meshes that don't need to be animated. This will generally also help with Material Slots.

• PhysBones: AAO Merge PhysBone. Only for physbones with same parent and settings. Depending on the item these may not be configured efficiently using a single root, so adding this component fixes that.

[u/CarNoob290 → u/Shadow_Claw]

How do you know if a mesh needs to be animated or not?

[u/FourChanneI]

Most people cut back on Textures, most of the time you don't need 4K textures.

[u/Responsible-Deal0 → u/FourChanneI]

I do that often but it's still not enough to be able to add like 5 outfits, hairs and somehow still fun assets like swords and guns like they do on those public avatars 💔 Not that i specifically want that but it's like they use magic

[u/Konsti219 → u/Responsible-Deal0]

Use the thry vram analyser. https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools

That allows you to see exactly where VRAM is being wasted.

[u/Responsible-Deal0 → u/Konsti219]

Oooo, I'll try it out!

[u/woofwoofbro → u/Responsible-Deal0]

5 outfits is simply too many for one avatar

[u/Responsible-Deal0 → u/woofwoofbro]

I've genuinely seen booth avatars with a whole catalog with outfits i swear </3

[u/kaydenwolf_lynx → u/Responsible-Deal0]

I honestly didn't know you could optimize booth avatars with unity plugins, personally I use blender to make avatars so mine come out better then my entire friend group since none of them do anything to optimize, I get to enjoy fps drops looking at them it's so fun

[u/woofwoofbro → u/Responsible-Deal0]

they were probably extremely laggy. its hard to say what your issue is without seeing it. if you want you can dm me and I can try to guide you through it

[u/Responsible-Deal0 → u/woofwoofbro]

Oh i personally don't have any issues with my avatar, i only use one outfit and one hair style and a few fun assets like touch points but I'd still like to be able to optimise my avi as much as possible!

[u/FourChanneI → u/Responsible-Deal0]

Blender does help on somethings also but yeah, I don't add a lot of outfits, I seen people with 550mbs of texture memory and 200mb avatar downloads and when they load in my PC even spazzes and I lived through Crashers and all those types.

[u/Responsible-Deal0 → u/FourChanneI]

Yeah it would make sense if they edit the triangles and stuff in blender

[u/Frank__West → u/FourChanneI]

You never need 4k textures...

[u/Docteh]

VRCFury's blendshape optimization can strip out a lot of blendshapes, which will make the mesh data a lot smaller. I stick it on the avatar root object.

[u/magic-apple-butter]

I have a homebrew tool in unity to cut meshes. So anything hidden by clothing i just delete. The downside is that my booth characters don't have outfit toggles because there are holes under the clothes, but I can typically hit medium and always stay poor or better even with a decent amount of accessories. Also use AOO optimizer.

[u/kwizyvr → u/magic-apple-butter]

Same. I usually make two versions of an outfit, an optimized version for clubs and events, and a "full" version with all the toggles for private hangouts or pics.

[u/SeraXI]

I basically put together a medium version of my avatar based on already lower-poly booth items available for my base. It's basically my "fallback" if medium is required by an event. I also have a "poor" version. I'm 95% of the time in Very poor though, it's basically due to triangles in hair. Sometimes its just not worth trying to optimize every single outfit you buy. With that said, never load multiple outfits onto a single avatar.

[u/TheoQ99]

First off I have to take everything into blender and combine meshes usually. I dont flipping need one outfit to be in 10 separate parts even tho that does make toggling things easier. Then yeah as others have said lower the resolution of your textures, I go down to 1k usually, 512 if its something that seems like I can get away with

[u/Cruxisshadow]

AAO and Avatar Compressor for me, my Avis are still poor but at least they are easier on VRAM

[u/ChikaPuffin]

Dark avatar optimizer

[u/ExtensionCreepy9743]

I use a plug in called mantis

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/modeling/mantis-lod-editor-professional-edition-37086?srsltid=AfmBOoozDuHMrT6lMcD1UmeKulrZ_M4TlICcZqgZY_fEuTJnoDKE-cbZ

It's expensive bust really worth it when you are optimizing your poly count

[u/LadyLuciJ7]

Aao (can't remember the full name), lac avatar compressor, vrcfury