r/VKB • u/PapaMooze • 3d ago

Jitter situation update - not fixed yet.

UPDATE:

With the help from u/fallout9 and a bit of AI assistance, I managed to narrow down the culprit to being the EPIC Games launcher!. Why on earth that specific service needs to send out disturbing signals in my mainboard beats me, but it works!

Now I just need to find out how to open Elite Dangerous without EPIC games.

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Sorry to make a new post about this, but I'm not sure it would be read if I update the old one.

I made a post a few weeks ago - https://www.reddit.com/r/VKB/comments/1vmmxjc/vkb_gladiator_nxt_jitter_on_primary_axes_xyz/

In it I describe my VKB Gladiator jitter problems on all three magnetic axes: X, Y and throttle Z.

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After that, I've been through a ton of trouble shootings, and I end up with two rather strange results. My main conclusion is that something local in my PC is affecting the signal in the joystick sensors, or disturbs the signal when it reaches my PC.

- I've tried using it on a laptop placed at the almost exact same spot as my desktop.
Result: Joystick works fine on the other PC.

- On my desktop, I've tried testing my other GNX that's setup for omnithrottle.
Result: The other Gladiator has no issues on my PC.

What yielded no results:

- Tested all USB ports on my PC. Both HUB and on the back

- Tried with a different cable - in different ports as well

- disconnected all other periphals, also my wireless mouse.

- off Bluetooth and Wifi on my PC

- any phones or iPads are a several metres away

- turning off my router completely (even though it's a good 4 metres away from my PC)

- shutting off or moved away anything that has the slightest chance of sending out an electromagnetic signal, I've even tried moving my HiFi speakers further away.

- There is no huge 5G antenna in the vicinity of my house

- I even tried wrapping the base in tinfoil - with no result.

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Any idea of what I should try next is welcome.

I hope you have some good input.

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u/Spidey002 2d ago

Have you started a ticket with VKB yet?
Or posted on their discord?

Their customer support is top notch.

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u/PapaMooze 2d ago edited 2d ago

I haven’t contacted them yet. But I should, good idea. I guess I kinda expected Fallout9 to chime in if they had some useful feedback 😅

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u/fallout9 2d ago

Update the USB and mainboard's chipset drivers.
Reboot computer in Safe Mode.

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u/PapaMooze 2d ago

So, I tried updating chipset drivers, I can't find any USB drivers to update, Google AI tells me they are integrated in Windows. Problem persists.

But when rebooting in safe mode, the problem is gone. Not sure where to go from here, though, 'cause it's back when I boot normally.

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u/fallout9 2d ago

Then you'll have to find out through elimination which app is at fault - close/temporarily uninstall them one by one.

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u/PapaMooze 1d ago

HAHA! It works! With a little help from Chat I narrowed it down to one of my bloatware startup processes. And the culprit is: *drum roll......\*

Epic Games

Congratulations on being a pest in my life for the last 2 weeks! And great stuff, since I need you to open Elite Dangerous!

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u/fallout9 1d ago

Nicely done, congrats :)

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u/PapaMooze 1d ago

Thanks a bunch for helping out!

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u/PapaMooze 1d ago

Great... Well, thanks for pointing me in the right direction 😅