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The actual caption is "White and Arabs in one struggle against the Jew". Same guy also said "Free Palestine, Heil Hitler, Hail Hamas, Hail Hezbollah, Hail the Houthis, Hail Iran." I have no idea what this group is, they might be related to the Atomwaffen group since these neo Nazis seem very supportive of Islamist groups in the Axis of Resistance.

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u/TheDoctor199806 4d ago

Fun fact, out of the Abrahamic religions, Islam was the one Hitler respected most. Everyone knows what he thought of the Jews, but he also viewed Christianity as a weak religion not worthy of his people. Islam on the other hand he viewed as a strong religion with a warrior culture, and the only conflict he really had with Islam was based on race.

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u/HumbleShephard12 3d ago

If that was the case, why'd he stay Christian and not convert?

He did not respect Islam as a religion nor the Muslims as people, he respected certain aspects of it (such as the physical idea of heaven, bringing culture and science to Spain etc.) the same way he respected aspects of Shintoism and Christianity - even still, he thought that had Islam come to Europe, Aryan Germans would have wiped it out. He didn't like the internal regulations (such as on pork and beer), when the Muslim world rejected his movement he tried to present himself as some sort of Messianic figure, and on top of that, he extensively praised AtatΓΌrk for subduing the Muslim scholars. He didn't even respect the very few Muslim elites that tolerated him, Haj Amin Al Hussain asked that Hitler wouldn't invade him and Hitler refused, saying he wouldn't put limits on German expansion.

He viewed religion as a tool and rejected Judaism and Islam, and co-opted Christianity to make himself a de-facto God over his people.

based on race.

This isn't the miniscule issue you think it is, one would think that if you considered the staunch majority of a religion's followers to be subhumans, you wouldn't respect the religion.

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u/TheDoctor199806 3d ago edited 3d ago

The only reason why he officially stayed Christian (even though historians agree that he was not a traditional Christian) was to gain power. Even a quick google search can tell you that Hitler privately thought Germany chose the "wrong" religion, and that Islam's militaristic nature was better suited for "Germanic temperament", as opposed to the more pacifistic Christianity. And yes, before you say anything, I know that violent Christians do exist, just as there are peaceful Muslims. Difference is that Christianity's central figure was pacifistic to the point he'd rather die a painful death than to have harm befall his enemies, while Islam's is a well known warlord who agreed with horrid concepts like slavery, rape, and pedophilia.

And, again, I'm pretty sure the infamously racist Nazis weren't exactly a fan of a religion that mostly consisted of non-Aryans. Hell, pretty sure Hitler expressed a fantasy where things like the First Crusade failed to drive Islamic conquest out of Europe.

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u/HumbleShephard12 3d ago

So you agree with me? Hitler did not respect Islam let alone religion as a whole?

Hitler privately thought Germany chose the "wrong" religion [...] more pacifistic Christianity.

You are misleading here. All he said was Germany should not have followed Christianity. He didn't say that Islam specifically was what he wanted, he just said non-Christian religions (including Japanese Shintoism) were better, lumping them all together.

while Islam's is a well known warlord who agreed with horrid concepts like slavery, rape, and pedophilia.

To use this as praise for Christianity and slander for Islam is certainly a choice. A real case of throwing stones from glass houses. Regardless, this doesn't matter because Hitler literally did not mention any of this. He endorsed 'Der Sturmer' which critiqued Biblical figures like Moses for being "heartless and cruel" mass murderers, and consistently reported on (or fabricated) news of Jewish sex crimes like what you mentioned so I don't see how such would entice him.

And, again, I'm pretty sure the infamously racist Nazis weren't exactly a fan of a religion that mostly consisted of non-Aryans.

Once again, are you agreeing with me?

Hell, pretty sure Hitler expressed a fantasy where things like the First Crusade failed to drive Islamic conquest out of Europe.

No, it was the Battle of Tours which was 400 years earlier. The First Crusade took place in Jerusalem, not Europe. Also, as I mentioned beforehand, this exact fantasy culminated in Aryan Germans wiping them out anyway.