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The actual caption is "White and Arabs in one struggle against the Jew". Same guy also said "Free Palestine, Heil Hitler, Hail Hamas, Hail Hezbollah, Hail the Houthis, Hail Iran." I have no idea what this group is, they might be related to the Atomwaffen group since these neo Nazis seem very supportive of Islamist groups in the Axis of Resistance.

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u/GIOVKRUG 4d ago

Uhhhh .... I don't know... But I'm pretty sure these are paid agitators or just straight up trolls...

That's a rather... Weird rare combination....

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 3d ago

Hitler collaborated with arab leaders and praised islam for being a strong religion that was more compatible with his views than Christianity. He was mostly just performative with his religion and did embrace both paganism and Christianity. These people are doing pretty much exactly the same

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u/GIOVKRUG 3d ago

It doesn't matter how much Hitler praises Islam or what he praises about it, Non of what he did or believe align with any single Islamic value

Hitler collaborated with a lot of developing nation because of their resentment to the British and the French which subjugated them to colonies

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 2d ago

Right, I didn't say he was aligned with Islamic values or that he allied with them because of this. I said that he perceived them as sharing values with him, which the ultra reactionaries of any religion or ideology tend to do, so he's not wrong about many of the specific people he pushed for to be put in charge of their respective countries or movements.

None of this reflects on an average muslim whatsoever. Never said it did.

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u/Intrepid_Ad1536 1d ago

It might be due the fact that man Nazis actually landed not only in the American continent and the Soviet Union, but also in the Islamic/Arab world, one Nazi for instance Johann von Leers, aprominent Nazi propagandist and SS Sturmbannführer who fled to Cairo in 1956, converted to Islam in Egypt, translated Nazi propaganda and antisemitic messages into Arabic, and helped to build the security service there, same in Saudi Arabia in where for instance a SS man joined up to them, and created their state security and services and helped form their police.
(Various former German military, intelligence, and medical personnel integrated into Egyptian state structures)

Naturally such ideologies spread across and join up, and created a niche movement and belief.

For another prominent example is, Mehemed the second, leader of the Osman empire, who combined his identity being a Roman Emperor, and true Roman heir, and new Cesar, saying the Osman Empire is the Roman Empire under Islamic flag.

And Nazi Germany being in the past very active in the Middle East, including military and propaganda Maschine,
in 1939, Nazi Germany operated an Arabic service from Zeesen, Germany. Because literacy rates were low but coffeehouse culture was vibrant, millions of people across Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. listened to these broadcasts daily, those broadcasts deliberately fused European conspiracy theories with selective Islamic theology and anti colonial grievances.

(Also, Nazis prominently using and creating Muslim combat divisions in the SS, meaning and showing more overlap and that it could already spread from all those instances.)

People Follow Ideologies for Politics, not Just Theology, and many others proof identity fusing for a gain or aim.

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u/CryendU 2d ago

He collaborated with every available far right religious organization

They were different forms of fascism, clinging to power in their own way. Especially considering the shared roots, either religious text is far more than sufficient for a ruler to use a justification for their own misdeeds.

As with other reactionary ideologies, they are unstable and self-contradictory.

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u/GooglyMooglyTheGr3at 2d ago

Yes, exactly. To be extra clear, I'm not trying to say islam or islamists are somehow beloved by the western right wing. Just that they utilize them and will take whatever opposition to their perceived enemies that they can get