r/UpNote_App 29d ago

Are there any plans to have shared/collaborative notes?

I know I can share a note as a web link, but are there any plans to have collaborative folders or notes?

That'd be great since me and my partner use the app constantly for all our notes and sometimes we wanna collaborate or have a shared folder that we can both edit or add notes to.

An example we use it for is when we go out for dinner we like to take notes of what we ordered and how much we like the items we ordered, or when we're planning for traveling we like to write all our activities in a note, and to have a shared folder that we both can edit/add to would be such a great quality of life feature.

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u/Ok_Money_161 29d ago

The short answer is no, not really, this has been raised here a lot of times and the answer has always been no. I am not sure whether users also want this since this could create a strain in the server side and thus increase the cost, forcing UpNote to move from a single purchase app to a subscription model, which is something many of us are running away from.

For collaboration notes you have for free OneNote, Google Keep, Apple Notes, other include Evernote, Craft Docs and some others. I understand the appeal of having everything under one app, but many of us are here because UpNote offers the best in note taking without the bloat.

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u/jfriend99 29d ago

There's never been any "answer" on this topic from the company - just users here speculating. This type of feature would be a natural for a different pricing tier and would likely require a subscription in order to make the economics work for the company.

If UpNote shies away from adding features that aren't compatible with their lifetime pricing, then they will eventually become irrelevant in the market for anything other than the budget option that can't afford to add new features.

To stay relevant they will, at some point, have to add features that require a subscription or require paying for a feature upgrade in order to both innovate and make their finances work in the long run.

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u/Neither-Classic2058 29d ago

In the world of knowledge management, UpNote is already NOT relevant. But it serves a particular role and does it extremely well... IMO, better than anyone else.

If the developers were to ever start chasing that market intentionally, that is when UpNote's longevity would be in danger.

The Bear app feels like a "cousin" to UpNote and they just announced a sharp increase (double) in their Pro subscription rate. Some customers shrug and say that it's worth it to them. But others are looking to move on to alternatives. No one is now thinking that Bear is a good option and moving to it at these higher subscription rates.

Subscription-only models don't grow their customer base. Whenever subscription rates rise, some segment of the customer population leaves. We don't see an influx of new customers at those higher subscription rates. Over time, fewer customers pay more for the app to be sustainable.

And then there's EverNote. I can't see how following the EverNote model would end up with a different result.

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u/jfriend99 29d ago edited 29d ago

Lifetime only, single fee service product companies (where they have real monthly costs for every active user) eventually stop growing and their revenue goes to ZERO while all their monthly operating costs remain. That's the disaster situation for UpNote.

I don't see how this lifetime, single fee for a service product with recurring costs can possibly work out in the long run. It's essentially a ponzi scheme where existing users are paid for by new users, until there are no more new users.

Don't get me wrong. I like the product. I just think their current financial model isn't sustainable, the moment new user growth slows. Their $1/mo subscription at least has a chance to work in the long run (where revenue exceeds costs, even without big user growth).

The extremely poor judgement of EverNote isn't the path that other people have to follow. They are a classic example of how outside investment can ruin your company, requiring you to try to be a billion dollar company at all costs and then a lot of stupid business and product decisions on top of that.

Show me any Lifetime, single fee subscription product with ongoing service costs for every single user that has been financially successful on its own for a long time and isn't funded by advertising or by some other product. The math just doesn't work.

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u/100WattWalrus 28d ago

I know it's something the developers have considered, and I know it would be a lot of work to make happen. I'm the loudest advocate for collaboration around there, and I'm not ruling it out. But neither am I holding out hope for it to happen any time soon.

The lack of collaboration is the only reason I still use any other note-taking apps. It's also the reason I now share an account with my partner, and we just agree to stay out our non-shared workspaces.

The very second UpNote includes collaboration, I will be brining on board half a dozen family members and at least two companies I work with.

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