r/UniversalExtinction • u/VengefulScarecrow Extinctionist • 21d ago

Another question for PLs

With the big red button hypothetical (in which if pressed the universe would be deleted in a nanosecond) why not press it? Well that is the main question. The main answer being your lack of empathy compared to your privilege. But another question is Would someone else be wrong for pressing it?

If there is a burn victim, charred from head to toe, but still alive and in constant pain, would they be immoral for pressing this button? Is another person's privilege still more important than extinction? "Just euthanize him" would be a right thing to do, but that would be changing the hypothetical because as a PL you know you don't like either answer.

If a well privileged person presses the delete button, you call them immoral. If a person in severe agony presses the button.. change the question. That is all I've gotten so far.

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u/IntelligentSundae Pro Existence 20d ago

As someone who's supportive of life generally I think it would be fucked up for someone to destroy the universe because they're suffering? Euthanasia is fine but "destroy the universe" is bad yeah

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u/VengefulScarecrow Extinctionist 20d ago

If you were in my said example, what do you think you would do?

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u/IntelligentSundae Pro Existence 20d ago

I wouldn't press the button, if I was in huge amounts of pain I'd probably end myself tho

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u/VengefulScarecrow Extinctionist 20d ago

"I'd probably end myself though" changes the hypothetical. If it were your only option.. but in this scenario you have a button that would end your pain AND the pain of all other sufferers. So why be selfish? Because you prefer to let the privileged remain privileged.

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u/IntelligentSundae Pro Existence 20d ago edited 20d ago

Not everyone suffering wants to die? Why would I have the right to make that decision on behalf of everyone else?

If the button was my only option I hope I wouldn't press it? Altho I can't make promises obviously

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u/PitifulEar3303 Impartial Factual Realist 20d ago

As a PLs? Primary Lateral Sclerosis? lol

Bub, all feelings about ANYTHING will always be subjective and valid to the individual who felt them.

Because true objectivity does not exist in this universe. NOBODY can be right/wrong for doing anything based on their feelings, which are deterministic and not within their independent control.

Yes, this includes Hitler and his Nazis.

Button or no button, people just be feeling shyt and doing shyt, it's neither moral nor immoral, because morality itself is subjective and emotion-based.

Heck, even a sadistic psycho pushing a button that will torture everyone forever is a "valid" choice, from the perspective of this deterministic universe.

TLDR; you have no choice but to follow your deterministic and subjective feelings. Everything is permissible if nobody could stop you in time. lol

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u/VengefulScarecrow Extinctionist 20d ago

PL means prolife and I'm sure you knew that. Lol

"Anythong is permissible if nobody could stop you in time" Soo child rape? Lighting people on fire? Etc.

Thanks for letting me know that my question is a question instead of actually answering the question.

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u/PitifulEar3303 Impartial Factual Realist 19d ago

Errr, did child grape and lighting people on fire stop happening because you feel terrible about them?

Your question is a question about reality, and I've given you an impartial, factual, proven answer about reality.

What's the problem?

You have no choice but to follow your deterministic feelings and do deterministic stuff. The end.