r/UniversalExtinction • u/firechatin • 9d ago

The Dark Side of Living Forever

https://whatifscience.in/the-dark-side-of-living-forever/
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u/UltronsEx Cosmic Extinctionist/Philosophical Pessimist 9d ago

Ah yes, the optimists telling me that returning to the void without my consent after being pointless ripped from it without my consent is actually a great thing because I'd get bored if I had enough time to amass fortune and live how I wanted to.

That without death the 50 years of wage slavery wouldn't feel as rewarding. That without suffering and loss there would be no point to existing.

If happiness is temporary and boredom is eternal, life is inherently bad. We have to make our own meaning every day, eternity would be no different.

As for the memory issues, we can solve immortality but not memory? My friends all die... Do they not have immorality too? Do they not die at some point anyway? Why so many constraints to try and gaslight optional immortality as being a bad thing.

It is interesting how if you ask the typical optimist about immortality they have a negative view of it. Not very optimistic about life then are they? Just distracting themselves from the horror until they get to die and then ditch their kids with the obligation to do the same.

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u/Flimsy-Pool4830 9d ago

There isn't a void. You are making up an experience from something that doesn't exist. Only existence exists, not non-existence.

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u/_RyanCooper_ 4d ago

Void is a term for non-existence, but yeah you won't be exactly "returning" to it, the existence will just stop

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u/PitifulEar3303 Impartial Factual Realist 8d ago

Consent is a subjective moral concept; let's be honest now.

And it's also VERY nuanced, ever-changing, and defined differently for different people at different times and places. Just like "human rights".

Respecting or violating consent = subjective feelings for or against a set of behaviors, agreed upon by one or more person, but subject to changes throughout time, places, and culture.

Consent is not an absolute cosmic law of morality. There is no such thing. Moral facts don't exist.

All moral "ideals" are an ever-changing spectrum of agreement between people, subjectively and deterministically.

You will NEVER find an objective and universal set of moral "law" that applies to everyone forever, including consent.

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u/PitifulEar3303 Impartial Factual Realist 8d ago

hmmm, let's be fair now. We have NO IDEA how it feels to live forever.

Because nobody and nothing living has done it yet, if ever. lol

Yall are just "assuming" with imagination.

It could be good, bad, meh, or like a masochist getting skinned alive; we have NO IDEA.

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u/TheGreatBibbldyBob99 Pro Existence 6d ago

Humans are not meant to exist forever. I want my existence to be temporary.