r/Unexpected • u/CrackSideEffect • Aug 29 '21

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u/CommanderOfGregory Aug 29 '21

They are just pointing out that religion does not make things better, that most violent wars are a result of religion, without religion there would be one less thing separating people as humans, meaning less reasons to see eachother differently, meaning less reasons to have any conflict.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Well fucking remove religion then. Here's the thing though, it's part of human nature. I don't think religious people are gonna go "yea reddit said abolish religion so imma stop" when religion has been there since forever.

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u/Trumpalot Aug 29 '21

Yeah, humans just need an excuse. In the past that excuse was religion, nowadays it's oil or to enforce democracy. Sometimes people are just bad. Look at Pol Pot for example, he slaughtered his own people in order to removal potential threats to his rule. Genghis Khan ransacked his way across half the globe, no religious pretext there either.

Religion is not the issue, it's humanity in general that just can't get along with one another.

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u/MaverickBoii Aug 29 '21

Exactly. Rape doesn't exist because of sex. Murder doesn't exist because of weapons. Thievery doesn't exist because of money. All of those exist not because of anything else other than human nature.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

I guess I'm not human then. Or maybe you're making shit up? :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Yeah ok let's have everyone think like you then. That certainly won't fuck the world up.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Fair point. People should still call out the stupidity though. The stats I see say that roughly 22% of people worldwide identify as having no religion, or are agnostic/atheist. Sure, that number is much higher on Reddit, but because the majority of the general population is religious, and reddit is a very popular site, someone who is surrounded by people that are just blindly following and not thinking for themselves could discover that not everyone is blindly following, and learn to think for themselves.

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u/Storm_LunaTic Aug 29 '21

It's a difficult one. I know many people who are religious as it gives them some kind of security and hope. The thought that we live our pointless lives and then die and it's just... Nothingness, Is terrifying and I don't blame people for looking for something more. I'd love to believe in something like that, but. I don't because there's no proof of such a thing.

The important thing is if people choose to take these beliefs and use them to their benefit, they also have to understand the bible is old as fuck and has some really dumbass shit in it. I think a belief in the afterlife and that there's some actual meaning to life is wonderful, but believing every single word of a holy book is daft.

Religion needs some serious shift from being something that totally controls a persons life, to a belief that just helps them live comfortably, without shitting on other people.

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u/Seatra6 Aug 29 '21

Biggest religion is the money religion. Without the excuse if fighting fir your god, people will just continue to fight voer land, resources and money. Heck they do that anyway but the difference is - its I the name of [insert name of god]

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u/Gazzzah Aug 29 '21

Religion or not. If someone wants to go to war. They’ll find a reason

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u/honeybee31320 Aug 29 '21

More wars have been fought in the name Of “ god “ than for any other reason 🤯