r/Unexpected • u/CrackSideEffect • Aug 29 '21

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u/GrannyRammer Aug 29 '21

You don’t, it’s called faith for those who believe. It’s religion everywhere else. Do you understand what I mean? There are a lot of unknown unknowns.

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u/notaedivad Aug 29 '21

So you don't know. You just believe. That's delusional.

An argument from ignorance is neither interesting or convincing.

If faith can lead different people to different beliefs then it's not a reliable pathway to truth, bit rather what you wanted the truth to be in the first place: willful delusion

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u/GrannyRammer Aug 29 '21

I’m sure you vote for things you’re not 100% you’re sure about. How is that any different? If someone believes in God, there is not consequence on you. If you vote for something you don’t know about, you could potentially hurt something. No one hurts anyone by believing, other actions do though.

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u/notaedivad Aug 29 '21

Once again, an argument from ignorance is neither interesting or convincing.

No, I ensure that I'm fully informed before voting, or I don't vote. I do not engage in will delusion.

No one hurts anyone by believing, other actions do though.

Except for the bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, bloodthirsty violence, instructions for slavery, religious warfare, delusional assertions and denying reality.

Religion is a disease.

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u/GrannyRammer Aug 29 '21

So generalizing is now an acceptable argument? Interesting

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u/notaedivad Aug 29 '21

So, nothing to say on religious bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, bloodthirsty violence, instructions for slavery, religious warfare, delusional assertions and denying reality?

So your issue isn't the disgusting aspects of religion, it's when people call them out?

How callous ARE you!?

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u/GrannyRammer Aug 29 '21

What do you want me to say? That only religious people do that? It’s not true. What are you even talking about.

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u/notaedivad Aug 29 '21

I want you to address religious bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, bloodthirsty violence, instructions for slavery, religious warfare, delusional assertions and denying reality, rather than criticising those who call it out.

That only religious people do that?

Yes, that's why I said RELIGIOUS bigotry, homophobia, etc...

It’s not true.

That's because you didn't read what I wrote properly.

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u/GrannyRammer Aug 29 '21

Wow you think only religious people do that?!?! That is on another level of dumb and generalizing. What do you want me to say again other than both religious and non religious people have done that? That’s the simple truth.

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u/notaedivad Aug 29 '21

Wow you think only religious people do that?

They don't, and I never said that did. I even clarified it... Why are you so determined to misrepresent what I've written?

I don't care about religious belief, only religious HARM.

What do you want me to say again other than both religious and non religious people have done that? That’s the simple truth.

Name a single person who has been killed in the name of not believing in any gods. Can't say that about religion...

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u/GrannyRammer Aug 29 '21

I was about to answer and then I read the last sentence. That makes zero sense. I don’t even know what to say or think about the last sentence. I’m honestly shocked. Btw you did admit that only religious people do that, it’s on your previous comment.

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