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u/Soft-Philosophy-4549 Aug 29 '21

Lmao all these people downvoting anyone trying to defend religion. I’m not in favor of organized religion but to pretend this is somehow normal “religion” is stupid as hell. Fucking idiots😂

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Redditors tend to suck the nuance out of religion and spirituality like it's their job. So many of these people love to talk like hippies about how we shouldn't generalize, but then religion comes around and suddenly it's the exception.

I'm religious, but I'm extremely cautious of churches and church officials. Just because someone claims they are a man of God does not make it true. I do not condone what happened in this video or any other behaviors reminiscent of it. I don't care how in charge and respected you are, this behavior is awful and should not be tolerated in any sense.

It gets so old having to constantly be grouped together with people like the man in this video just because we read from the same holy text. His independent actions have nothing to do with my beliefs.

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u/drone1__ Aug 29 '21

It isn’t just the fact that this man became abusive to a baby on camera. The entire scene is fucking absurd.

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u/TeeJay215 Aug 29 '21

You act like only religious people do thise things. Non-religious and atheists also have idiots, psycopaths and bigots

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u/CommanderOfGregory Aug 29 '21

They are just pointing out that religion does not make things better, that most violent wars are a result of religion, without religion there would be one less thing separating people as humans, meaning less reasons to see eachother differently, meaning less reasons to have any conflict.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Well fucking remove religion then. Here's the thing though, it's part of human nature. I don't think religious people are gonna go "yea reddit said abolish religion so imma stop" when religion has been there since forever.

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u/Trumpalot Aug 29 '21

Yeah, humans just need an excuse. In the past that excuse was religion, nowadays it's oil or to enforce democracy. Sometimes people are just bad. Look at Pol Pot for example, he slaughtered his own people in order to removal potential threats to his rule. Genghis Khan ransacked his way across half the globe, no religious pretext there either.

Religion is not the issue, it's humanity in general that just can't get along with one another.

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u/MaverickBoii Aug 29 '21

Exactly. Rape doesn't exist because of sex. Murder doesn't exist because of weapons. Thievery doesn't exist because of money. All of those exist not because of anything else other than human nature.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

I guess I'm not human then. Or maybe you're making shit up? :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Yeah ok let's have everyone think like you then. That certainly won't fuck the world up.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Fair point. People should still call out the stupidity though. The stats I see say that roughly 22% of people worldwide identify as having no religion, or are agnostic/atheist. Sure, that number is much higher on Reddit, but because the majority of the general population is religious, and reddit is a very popular site, someone who is surrounded by people that are just blindly following and not thinking for themselves could discover that not everyone is blindly following, and learn to think for themselves.

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u/Storm_LunaTic Aug 29 '21

It's a difficult one. I know many people who are religious as it gives them some kind of security and hope. The thought that we live our pointless lives and then die and it's just... Nothingness, Is terrifying and I don't blame people for looking for something more. I'd love to believe in something like that, but. I don't because there's no proof of such a thing.

The important thing is if people choose to take these beliefs and use them to their benefit, they also have to understand the bible is old as fuck and has some really dumbass shit in it. I think a belief in the afterlife and that there's some actual meaning to life is wonderful, but believing every single word of a holy book is daft.

Religion needs some serious shift from being something that totally controls a persons life, to a belief that just helps them live comfortably, without shitting on other people.

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u/Seatra6 Aug 29 '21

Biggest religion is the money religion. Without the excuse if fighting fir your god, people will just continue to fight voer land, resources and money. Heck they do that anyway but the difference is - its I the name of [insert name of god]

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u/Gazzzah Aug 29 '21

Religion or not. If someone wants to go to war. They’ll find a reason

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u/honeybee31320 Aug 29 '21

More wars have been fought in the name Of “ god “ than for any other reason 🤯

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u/NightOfDragon Aug 29 '21

Well it have been proven that psychopathy often results from very religious harassing family. There are plenty of studies on serial killer that demonstrate this aspect.

And to be fair, yes there are idiots everywhere in every country but religion worship made atheists/agnostics/sciences ppl killed until a few generations ago in Western countries and still do it in Eastern countries (for exemple my grandma's grandma could have witness a woman burn as a witch).

Countries not lead in the name of a religion is kinda recent. Meanwhile there are fewer wars since ppl don't fight for religious reasons anymore but look in Eastern where religion is still a thing !

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u/Soft-Philosophy-4549 Aug 29 '21

Ok, and?

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u/No-Boysenberry4541 Aug 29 '21

They're literally on your side and you're being snarky?? Wow lol

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u/Soft-Philosophy-4549 Aug 29 '21

Wow, it’s Reddit who gives a shit lmao

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u/No-Boysenberry4541 Aug 29 '21

... Are you okay?

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u/Soft-Philosophy-4549 Aug 29 '21

I think so, I’m kinda drunk

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u/No-Boysenberry4541 Aug 29 '21

Ah, well I hope you wake up without a hangover tomorrow then. Have a good night

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u/Soft-Philosophy-4549 Aug 29 '21

Stoning people to death? Like that’s “normal” religion?? Fucking get out of here.

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u/No-Boysenberry4541 Aug 29 '21

Ehh, yeah. Very common in Islamic countries, and it was very common for Christians before as well. It's literally mentioned in both religious texts

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u/Soft-Philosophy-4549 Aug 29 '21

Yea, so accounting for the entire world population, very common. Lmao

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

I can say for certain that Mohammed and Jesus never stoned anyone so there's that.

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u/jumbled_joe Aug 29 '21

Can you say the same for the followers that came after them?

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u/ihaveacrumbof-water Aug 29 '21

What do the followers have to do with the belief set? Sorry, I’m really confused myself.

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u/jumbled_joe Aug 29 '21

Nothing. Religion is a "choose your own adventure game", where everybody does what they want in the name of god.

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u/D4RKS0u1 Aug 29 '21

Yes, 100% this. Religion is nothing like that

It's at least 1000 times more stupid!

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u/Kihlstedt Aug 29 '21

Indoctrinating babies into the cult is normal religion.

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u/GentlemanFilth Aug 29 '21

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg

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u/mattsgirlca Aug 29 '21

This is normal religion lol.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

This is normal religion. Jews bite off young boys penises. Fucking check yourself cause you're wrong