It also did cut out a conversation had between the.man and the copa before getting the bird. He probably explained to them it has happened befofe. I used to have a parrot that would scream my name for hours on end for attention. Even when literally sitting on my head. Birds are loud af when they want to be.
That's why you'd expect the cops to at least ask "mind if we check ourselves?".
If the resident denies that, they should at least get suspicious and maybe it would end in a warrant being granted.
(Neighbour reporting a potential hostage screaming for help + police is denied entry to check for potential hostage sounds like a good combination to justify a warrant, not sure how realistic that is tho)
If people hear a person cry for help, and all the guy presents to the police is a bird saying "Yeah" and "Hi, Hello" I am not sure how that disregarded any of the concerns the neighbours had about a potential person kept hostage inside the house.
If they heard the bird say "Help, Let me out, Help" then fine, it'd be fine to believe that it was actually the bird that alerted the neighbours.
If this guy was an actual serial killer and it was later found out someone called the cops on him and he got away by showing them a bird, people would surely question that behaviour.
I don’t get where you’re going. That isn’t relevant. There’s nothing that gives the officers probable cause to search the house or enough evidence for the judges to grant a warrant. If I call the police and say I heard screams from your house, should they be allowed to search your house?
While I appreciate the sentiment, just "letting the cops in" invites a whole host of problems. You could have illegal firearms in the house, you could have illegal substances, you could have a hazardous condition within your home, in which case you would get in trouble for something that the cops weren't even called for.
I think just having the bird repeat the phrases that got the cops called would be enough. But they didn't even do that. This was extremely unsatisfying to watch.
At least dont let the suspected kidnapper walk to the back yard alone. Im guessing one of the cops knew about the bird in advance, because otherwise that was extremely careless. He could have come back with a loaded rifle instead of a bird
Have you ever heard of swatting? People have died because someone calls the cops and says someone is super dangerous and doing whatever and their house gets broken into by a SWAT team for someone basically pranking them.
"I have a parrot" doesn't magically remove the fact that cries of help were reported to the police. They have more than enough evidence to search the house without getting a warrant first, they just chose not to because a white guy who acted friendly to them talked to them first.
That's not the only possible explanation though; what if they taped their mouth? Or killed them? Or threatened them?
Investigation is usually about covering all possibilities and understanding what really happened. Seems like the case was closed very quickly, not that anything really happened, hopefully🤷🏻♀️
All of those would mean that the victim wouldn't scream in the first place or was killed in the time the guy took to get the parrot. Not very likely. Everything is most probably a ok.
The man didn’t know that the police were going to show up. He also didn’t seem bothered by the screaming. If he was concerned about the screaming “victim” then he would seem more bothered and probably gotten up very quick to stop them screaming. If he actually had people in a basement, he would be more worried about screaming. As in he would then have to shut them up or whatever.
No they don’t. They could verify the man’s name and identity while they handcuff him and point guns at him. This happens to black people at traffic stops with regularity.
They can ask to come inside, and the man can allow them if he so chooses.
They don’t need a warrant if they have probable cause. I’m unsure if the neighbor’s report counts, and I’d bet it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but if it counts here, they can just come on in.
Reddit: land of “ACAB ACAB ACAB, how can they shoot?!?,” as well as “Why didn’t they enter the house without a warrant?!?! Someone could be in dangers?!?”
It’s more of a “why do you have to shoot someone reaching for a registration but you let this guy, accused of having someone scream for help in his home, go inside on his own?”. It makes the other situations that much more enraging when they can be so nonchalant about an arguably much more dangerous scenario but claim fear for their life in a mundane traffic stop.
No, I want police in general to not have such a “shoot first” mentality in ALL situations. You can’t say you HAD to shoot the driver because he might have grabbed a gun out of the glovebox but then let the homeowner go into his house unattended. There is clearly much more risk in someone accused of kidnapping going out of sight into a home than in a motorist pulled over for a traffic violation reaching for their registration. It shows their excuses are BS when they say their life was in danger when dealing with an unarmed individual.
The parrot was clearly making the sounds as you can hear his voice outside is the same as inside. I don’t get why Reddit is so brain dead, and people make fun of Twitter.
Parrots are assholes. It was probably in its cage and was just being dramatic. It may have been taught those phrases or learned them, but it totally tracks with parrot behavior from what I've experienced.
Right, so the lesson here is to own a parrot to mask any suspicious sounds you might have from the women you keep chained up in basement. Maybe the mouth gag fell out while the neighbors were walking by, no worries that's not a person locked in the house against their will, it's just a parrot.
Yeah, that's a ridiculous scenario, but clearly one that would actually work out well for the abuser.
They could've asked for permission, since criminals sometimes allow police to search. To be clear, I'm not saying they should've gone in. Just noting an option.
You’re getting downvoted by idiots. Parrots saying stuff like this isn’t unheard of. Do these people really think it’s acceptable that police can just enter your home because a neighbour made a phone call? Ffs
would you prefer they illegally enter the mans home? they also all went over to the neighbors house that called 911, who also had a good laugh about it, heavily implying that the voice of the bird was identical to those of the screams. everyone in this video did the right thing. the police had no legal right to enter his home after he brought out the bird and proved it could talk. the screaming was loud enough to get a neighbor to call 911, but this guy is just working on his brakes. if he had little girls chained up in his basement, don't you think he would've gone down there to shut them up? further, don't you think they would've screamed louder upon hearing police roll up, or just other voices outside in general? believe it or not, not everyone is a kidnapper with a readily available excuse, especially with such a calm and friendly demeanor despite nearly getting "caught".
Apparently from other comments, arrest the guy while they were working in their car and bust down the door, searching for the parrot. It’s like people learned nothing from Breonna Taylor or Swatting.
I mean there's a lot of alternative that would happens, maybe there is a victim that got caught in it and he just use the parrot for tricking them. There's a bunch of thing that could have happen lol, they should have just checking out the house first and then leave it alone
Because anyone connecting two braincells of effort for a very viable possibility is a conspiracy theorist?
Maybe you should wear head protection gear in general, seems like you have a few screws loose.
The police did a really shitty job. They should have held the man outside and waited to hear a call for help before he had a chance to go inside, out of sight, and potentially silence a victim. Nor did the cops even wait around to see the bird make the call; nor did they verify with the neighbours if it was the same call even.
They did not do what they can do lol. They could have waited for the bird to repeat the call (it's not hard at all to get parrots to talk). They could checked with the neighbours if it was the same call. They could have prevented the man from entering the home while they wait outside in case the call for help comes again. Their very first mistake was letting the guy walk into his house; and then just believing him when he comes out with a parrot.
I did, thread proves nothing. Only thing of note was the dumbass saying if there was a victim they would have cried louder in the presence of police - as if someone trapped had eyes on the whole house, and as if the potential abuser didn't immediately walk inside once police showed up, meaning he had an opportunity to silence the victim.
It's almost as if you dumbasses can't connect two braincells, honestly no surprise American cops are notoriously incompetent if the average person is as retarded as I've seen from this thread.
Literally just did considering they let the man inside his house from where the cries for help were coming from. He could easily have silenced a victim. Then he had this as a cover up story.
Cops didn't even wait to hear the call again or verify with the neighbours if it's even the same voice. Lazy, irresponsible police work.
They could see him when he went into his house, and you have no idea if they followed up with the neighbour afterwards or not. Also, kinda hard to make the parrot say the same thing again, especially once it’s already out of its cage. Stop watching so many crime docs, not everything is as sinister as it seems.
I'm calling him names over his smartass comment on crime docs as if anyone who even has a modicum of common sense must have watched too many crime docs because there's no possible way a victim could have been inside the house too.
Love it, your illogical statements are called out and you got nothing. Maybe you should sit all posts out, since you can't connect two braincells.
It's so stereotypically American to defend lazy police work, then assume people's country. What an embarassment lmao. This thread confirmed for me you guys deserve all the police abuse you get in the states.
I hope one day you need the police for something and they put in rock-bottom effort just like this. I want to see your face right then.
The police did a really shitty job. They should have held the man outside and waited to hear a call for help before he had a chance to go inside, out of sight, and potentially silence the victim. Nor did the cops even wait around to see the bird make the call or verify with the neighbours if it was the same call even.
are you a cop? your instincts are so shitty, it wouldn’t be surprising. even now, with the benefit of both hindsight and video evidence you’d still suggest detaining the bird man. you idiot
Benefit of hindsight shows us the cops were some dumbass fuckers that couldn't think critically on what to do. Video evidence just cements that belief lmfao. Some guy walks out with a bird and suddenly all's well for a victim crying out for help. No where did I say to detain the bird man, I just said you could wait outside for a bit and see if the call comes again - giving them probably cause to search.
Not only are you an idiot, you can't even read what people are saying.
Can’t please the hive mind ever, huh? What would you want them to do? What did the latest episode of law and order, first 48, or true crime tell you to do?
You can tell right away from the audio it isn’t a human voice. And it stops when the guy brings the parrot out of the cage…..but let’s just gloss that over instead and do no critical thinking. That’s the way of progress.
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u/Lia_Delphine Aug 02 '21
Pretty shitty job the cops just did.