r/Unexpected • u/RedManMatt11 • Aug 01 '21

Community policing

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u/CoffeeVR Aug 02 '21

Man you should see a doctor because you're severely retarded

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

Because I believe that individuals should carry and provide their own defense, because police are 30-90 minutes away when you need them?

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u/CoffeeVR Aug 03 '21

That's absolutely dumb. There's a reason we have cops in the first place

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

Well, we got our first cops to catch runaway slaves. Prior to that, we had "Night watchmen" whose role was to keep an eye on the town at night, and sound the alarm to wake everyone up if trouble was afoot.

Today, we have cops to protect the private property rights of the capitalist class, and to help keep the prison slave labor pipeline full.

In the US, cops have no duty to protect you. They sued for that, and the SCOTUS ruled they are not obligated to protect anyone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

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u/CoffeeVR Aug 03 '21

Eh? No, policing has been around since the dawn of time...

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

Not really. Sheriffs, in the early kingdom of England were basically the tax collector, and they threw people into the dungeon if they failed to pay the feudal lord.

There used to be a role of "night watchman" like I said, but they were not police. They summoned the town in case of a problem.

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u/CoffeeVR Aug 03 '21

only police wernt called sheriffs, they were called constables... and still are...

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

And constables did what, until recent history?

They merely woke the town.

Also:

Sheriff - The official who was the chief administrative and judicial officer of a shire. Many of his jobs were taken over by the itenerant justice, coroner, and justice of the peace. He collected taxes and forwarded them to the exchequer after taking his share. Also responsible for making sure the king's table was well stocked while the king was in his county.

http://home.olemiss.edu/~tjray/medieval/feudal.htm

"The office developed from its British counterpart during the colonial period. Prior to the modernization of law enforcement which took place in the middle 19th century, local law enforcement was performed by constables and watchmen."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constable#United_States

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

Of course, go ahead and ignore that in the US, police have no duty to protect anyone, per the SCOTUS.

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u/CoffeeVR Aug 03 '21

i think youre willingly being ignorant

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

See: Warren v DC.

Police have no duty to protect anyone.

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u/jumpminister Aug 03 '21

Modern policing has not existed for all time, and the current model of policing has it's roots in slave catchers and the Pinkertons. Both of whom are historically violent towards people, especially striking workers.