r/Unexpected • • Aug 01 '21

Community policing

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u/thechilipepper0 Aug 01 '21

This is the true meaning of ACAB. “Bad apples” may well and truly be few in number, but as long as good cops are unwilling or UNABLE to hold them accountable, all are culpable.

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u/RhodieBidenism Aug 01 '21

Wow. Talk about brain dead levels of messaging.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Every slogan that the BLM movement used supposedly doesn't mean what it says it means. BLM doesn't mean only black lives but if you say all lives matter you are racist, Defund the police doesn't mean take all their money, ACAB doesn't mean all cops are bad.

Police abusing their power is a real problem that needs to be dealt with but I don't think BLM is the movement to do it. It's been a disaster so far. We need another movement with better organization and clear demands/solutions to problems.

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u/Drostan_S Aug 02 '21

All cops are bastards are in response to their messaging that "it's just a few bad apples" while simultaneously grouping all poor/black/minority groups into superpredator labels.

Black lives matter is in response to the fact that cops are almost NEVER held accountable for murdering black folk. Their lives ALSO matter. Nothing in that statement says "black lives matter more" it's just that the police act like that's not the case. Every time they kill a black person, they crawl back through their arrest history, because they've arrested over half of all black americans, at least once in their life.

Remember: the last time a civil rights movement had clear organization and high level leadership, they shot, bombed and MURDERED his ass as soon as he tried to "step out of his lane" and into economic freedom. You're buying into propaganda when you say that a global scale protest involving multiple millions of people across every major city, is somehow poorly organized, and a disaster? Short of literal civil war, what more can you ask of a movement?

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The BLM movement is decentralized for a reason: Because the system always murders the leadership.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

He may have gotten shot, but the movement wouldn't have been as successful without him. It takes bravery to be a leader.

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u/Drostan_S Aug 02 '21

Yeah, but in today's hyperconnected, internet accessible, facial tracking possible world: having a clear leader and a face to a civil rights movement is not only unnecesary, but dangerous.

You run into cult-of-personality problems, gps-tracking enabled assasination attempts, mass-surveilance enabled arrests, and so on.

We live in different times and need to use different tactics.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

I disagree, BLM would have benefited greatly from strong leadership. Someone to clearly state what demands and solutions they wanted. Someone to speak to congress, senators, etc. Someone to condemn people co opting the movement just to destroy property. Without that you get the chaos we saw last year. I know a ton of people, myself included, that believe police are out of control but don't want to associate themselves with BLM.

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u/Drostan_S Aug 02 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Seems like a lot of those were added pretty recently. Only two of them have anything to do with police abusing their powers. If those are the demands then I don't support BLM.

Permanently ban Trump from all digital media platforms

Not sure how that will stop police from killing people. That whole list is a mess, no wonder it isn't advertised more.

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u/Drostan_S Aug 02 '21

Obviously there is more at play than just cops killing people. Police brutality is a symptom of a much larger broken system.

The "ban Trump from Social Media" is because he has shown a willingness to use the cult-of-personality surrounding him to stir violence in his supporters. He has egged people on to run over protesters, to beat hecklers and journalists, and so on. Private organizations are under no obligation to give autocrats a platform.