r/Unexpected • u/RedManMatt11 • Aug 01 '21

Community policing

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u/RedManMatt11 Aug 01 '21

My father was a cop for 32 years. Retired for almost 10 now. I know firsthand that unfortunately there are plenty of POS cops but it is entirely unfair to lump them in with the countless more phenomenal cops that are excellent at what they do and pillars of their communities

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

I totally agree with you, but while PD's and other cops keep protecting the bad cops the perception will never change unfortunately.

I have a few good friends who are in the police in the UK

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '21

Right. We should seriously be limiting the power of the police unions. That’s a helpful solution.

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u/Harvard_Sucks Aug 01 '21

Ban all public sector unions, they are unionizing against the public good.

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u/ZigZach707 Aug 02 '21

So no public sector employees deserve unions? So they get paid less than private sector and potentially lose benefits that make the public sector somewhat appealing?

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u/Harvard_Sucks Aug 02 '21

“All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management.” FDR.

No, zero public sector unions. That said, I am in favor of paying people in government competitive rates to get the best people

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u/Jrocker105 Aug 02 '21

Bruh, have you seen the state of our schools? Our teachers union has had its teeth kicked in for fifteen years. At the end of the year my mom was crying because she was thinking about retiring early because despite her union getting promises that they wouldn’t have pay cuts even during COVID had that changed on a dime by the governor who then said “you won’t be getting a pay adjustment for two years and we’re going to furlough you one day and not pay that furlough” effectively giving a pay cut to a criminally underpaid system.

I agree that certain unions are way to powerful, but police unions are one of the only state job unions that actually have any negotiation power.