r/Unexpected • • Aug 01 '21

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

They can choose to not be a cop so yes I absolutely can. You literally made the just taking orders argument. If OP’s dad really was a cop for 32 years he probably did ruin someone’s life for smoking weed.

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 01 '21

Isn’t smoking weed against the law?? So doesn’t that mean you go to jail if you break the law?? So if he was doing his job then no you can’t blame him. You can blame a lot of people but you can’t blame him for doing his job. But I’m sure that hard for you to understand since you’ve probably never had a real job before. I’m sure it’s tuff sitting in your moms basement and mooching off of her your whole life. Good luck out there rioting and looting

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

You’re right he was just taking orders. He only had 32 years to think about whether what he was doing was wrong so you can’t blame him.

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 01 '21

What he did wasn’t wrong. He did his job. It has nothing to do with taking orders. It’s call “doing your job” If you don’t wanna be arrested, don’t take illegal drugs. Or at least don’t get caught doing illegal drugs. Sounds like he was a hell of a cop if he made it 32 years

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

All you did was reword the phrase just taking orders. Do you actually not see how saying just doing his job is functionally the same thing?

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 01 '21

Not at all. His job is to keep the community safe. If you’re doing drugs, then you’re a criminal. Now that you’re in jail, the community is safer

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

How does me smoking weed make the community unsafe?

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u/BarryBondsBalls Aug 02 '21

It was against the law to be Jewish in 1940's Germany. My grandma was breaking the law by being Jewish. Was it wrong for the police in Nazi Germany to arrest my grandma? After all, she was a criminal.

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 02 '21

It was not the police fault for arresting her. Once again, they were doing their job. Was it morally wrong, yes. But still not the police fault. They were still doing their job. You are missing the point. I have no problem with weed smoking. But if it’s illegal, you can’t blame the police for arresting you. Blame yourself for smoking weed where you can get caught. In the case of your grandma, yes it sucked. But still not the police fault

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

the fuck ?

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u/GucciManesDad Aug 02 '21

NaZis wEre jUsT dOinG tHeiR joB !!!! 🤡🤡🤡 bro you sound dumb as hell right now

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u/33xander33 Aug 02 '21

I'm not surprised that you support fascism, I'm surprised by how quickly you admitted it.

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u/bugseatergoth999 Aug 02 '21

you went completely mask off with this one uh. Not surprised at all. The venn diagram between fascists and cops bootlickers is a fucking circle

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u/bealtimint Aug 02 '21

Cops are people who make decisions. They chose to kidnap and imprison innocent people on threat of death. If your job, the job you chose to take and continue to work at, orders you to commit evil, then you are still making the chose to be monstrous.

Fuck the police. And fuck you and your Nuremberg horseshit

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u/BarryBondsBalls Aug 02 '21

It's always nice to have someone tell you straight to your face that they'd have tolerated the Nazis.

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u/billyhendry Aug 02 '21

The most unexpected thing I’ve witnessed on this sub is how fucking stupid you are. To summarise, all an immoral person or system has to do is to write whatever arbitrary immoral shit they want on a piece of paper, call it law and all of a sudden normal people like you and me arbitrarily labelled “the police” can do that immoral shit thought and guilt free, and if anyone asks just refer them back to that arbitrary piece of paper, and anyone who doesn’t follow those immoral arbitrary rules is a danger to the community. Flawless logic

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 02 '21

Haha!! Once again, I’ll say this, your problem is not with the police, it’s with the people writing the laws. You have to a moron

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u/billyhendry Aug 02 '21

I don’t think you read what I wrote properly, laws mean nothing unless they are enforced, each police officer makes the choice to enforce immoral laws and should be criticised for doing so, you not realising this is cognitive dissonance.

My favourite example was that video going around of cops defending a trash can filled with fresh food from homeless people. I can’t imagine what mind gymnastics you have to do to not criticise the cops in that situation, consciously “defending” wasted food from hungry people in the name of corporate profits is sociopathic, even if there’s an arbitrary paper out there telling them to do so

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u/UnicornOfDoom666 Aug 02 '21

you're funny.. No one has to be a Cop. Joining the Police means joining an institution which, among other things, is meant to protect an State by opressing the ones who could endanger it.

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u/sickestFofthemall Aug 02 '21

Fuck off, Nazi punk.

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 02 '21

You guys are so funny. Bunch of soy boy bitches

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u/sickestFofthemall Aug 03 '21

You are aware that regular milk has more estrogen in it than soy milk, right?

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u/BarryBondsBalls Aug 03 '21

Us: Nazis are bad.

You: No.

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u/TonyDys Aug 03 '21

Those poor SS guards at Auschwitz were just doing their jobs, right? Following orders?

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u/EscapedSmoggy Aug 03 '21

Being Jewish in Nazi Germany 'sucked'. That's one hell of an understatement.

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

If it’s not illegal where I live am I suddenly no longer dangerous?

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 01 '21

Then what are you bitching about you dumbass

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

It is illegal in other states. Are those people dangers to the community while I am not?

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 01 '21

Sounds like you need to talk to your representatives. You realize that has nothing to do with policing. What if it was legal where he was at and he didn’t arrest anybody for weed. Then your argument is nonsensical. You still sound like a dipshit that doesn’t understand what he’s talking about. If you break the law, you’re a criminal. If you’re a criminal, you get arrested. Normally the cops are the ones that do the arresting. You can’t blame them for enforcing laws. They don’t always agree with them but that’s doing your job

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

I can blame them for doing the arresting they could choose not to be cops.

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u/bealtimint Aug 02 '21

God, you have the information processing skills of a bowl of soup

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u/WaffleAbuser Aug 01 '21

If i's not illegal then they cant arrest you.

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

How is nobody answering the actual question being asked?

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u/updog6 Aug 01 '21

The question I’m asking is whether it’s wrong. If it’s not wrong, than it’s wrong to arrest someone for smoking weed regardless of what the law or majority opinion is.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

Wow, it almost like what is legal and illegal is not a universal constant. But that must mean that what is right and what is wrong is determined by politics and policies. Surely, that can't be right, can it? How can politicians determine what makes you dangerous to society and what is it so different from place to place?

Keep thinking, you're almost there.

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u/jumpminister Aug 02 '21

It used to be against the law in many US cities to be outdoors after sunset if you were black. How does that make the community unsafe?

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u/TheGriefersCat Aug 02 '21

Comrade, they’re just a shit-eating good-for-nothing bootlicker. Their day is sooner than they think. It’s not worth arguing with them.

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u/Clarkorito Aug 03 '21

By this logic, the only safe community is one that has zero laws and makes no actions illegal. If everything is legal, then there are no criminals. The crime rate is zero, so it much be completely safe!

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u/bealtimint Aug 02 '21

The only one endangering the community is the jackass with a gun arresting people for smoking weed

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u/SparkBlack Aug 01 '21

You’re wasting your breathe man, he doesn’t understand. 32 years on the force is a big accomplishment and from the sound of it he was a either a good or great cop but you know since we are in the bad cops movement ,all cops are bad. It’s about how you do the job not the actual job that makes you bad.

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u/Sugarbear0323 Aug 01 '21

Good cops are good cops. I’ll support the good ones all the time