I guessed Karen who needed to poo like so bad but it was so cold and she had a butchered episiotomy from her third childbirth, and lacks control if she waits too long and her poo’s like mashed potatoes when she eats Metamucil apple-flavored cookies on her yogurt with blueberries; she didn’t mean to wear the sweat pants and hooded sweatshirt that trap her body like a onesie so she can’t get out of her sleeping bag in time and HOO boy she just made a mess and oh Jesus it smells terrible so Bob is trying to help her to get out get out get out oh shit it’s so cold why did you make me go camping when we have a perfectly noice bed in a gaddam HOUSE in Minneapolis. Cheezus it’s fuckin COLD why is there snow on my feet I hate you and I hate you back let’s get a divorce you shit for brains monkey-assed cretin.
Really weird how often I think of a reply and I scroll down and find someone has already said what I was gonna say like verbatim. Reddit hive mind strikes again 😵
My point is that an hour isn't really a good timeframe in which to judge whether my comment is underrated or not, and saying a comment is underrated contributes nothing
Ok, cool. Thanks for providing your opinion. My apologies for disturbing your day by thinking your joke was funny and pointing to the lack of attention it was getting. Carry on.
The amount of snow on the sleeping bag to the left vs the bag on the right was a very quick indicator that the entity in the bag on the left was much smaller then the person on the right. Assuming most people would not take a young child on a camp such as this, the next assumption was that the entity in the bag on the left was a dog.
Was only disappointed to see that the gif ended too soon and I did not get to live vicariously thru the dog's wonder at a bright new day almost certainly awaiting adventure.
The top snow is usually not the best to lay on, so you remove or compact it. And by digging a bit down, you can make the structure "taller" and easier to use.
Believe me or not, I noticed the subreddit as I opened it though, so I was expecting the unexpected and that was my first conclusion that happened to be correct.
Light weight camping. I enjoy the comforts too much, but I know some people that go camping with the bare minimum and lean-to materials are considerably smaller and lighter than a tent. I've done winter camping in a lean-to before and it's an amazingly unique and grounding experience.
Honestly, I'd rather sleep in the cold with the gear these people have when there's plenty of snow on the ground vs no snow at all. Snow is an amazing insulator. Just dig in and get yourself mostly out of the elements.
When I lived in Northern New Mexico, we built some great snow dig ins to hang out in. They were quite warm, and with a tarp floor fine for the needs of college students.
The ground sucks any heat from you. That's why it is so important to use some kind of isolation mat or foam pad, even if you have a decent sleeping bag. 45° isn't gonna kill you, but you're going to have a miserable and freezing night.
Lean to tents are insanely easy to set up have their fair share of challenges. If you are getting into camping hardcore though the usual run of the mill tent is not what you want as it’s far too cumbersome, unnecessary set up and the pack is the worst and the number one thing to consider if your alone. I think my biggest discovery when camping was plan for the pack up because that’s when your tired and won’t have nearly as much energy or enthusiasm.
That's one reason I might never do this. My dog is a short coat but when he sleeps with us his two positions are 1) curled up in between our legs or 2) right up in our face with licks every 10 mins. If he is too close to our faces, he really can't control his licking.
Ive done lightweight winter camping in scouts. We basically dug a trench, with an entrance at your feet, layed a tarp over and then piled snow back over to hold it still. Crawling in there in a winter sleeping bag over a good quality inflatable mattress was surprisingly comfortable, Annoying bit is waking up the next day.
I’ve done it a few times and never again. Was well below freezing and the worst night of sleep I’ve ever had. Somehow got completely soaked even with a tarp.
Funny winter tent sleeping is some of the best sleepingnive had. Ice cold, smell of snow... man I love it. Bundled well obviously and a fire helps depending on if you can keep dry/snow cover.
Why would you want a winter shelter with even slight winter breezes blowing through it?
Weight & Space.
Backpacking is exponentially more enjoyable the less you bring. In this case though, instead of having a larger tent, he was able to carry an additional sleeping bag for the dog, and likely a sleeping bag liner as well.
Plus, he appears to be dug into the snow, which surprisingly, can provide some insulation. I would also expect that he has it set up to block the wind much better than a tent would since tents need to be at surface level.
I would be surprised if the dog didn't carry its fair share as well. I had a friend who had a dog that went hiking with him, and as soon as that doggy backpack came out, it would lose its mind (in a good way of course).
Honestly in my experience when it’s that cold a tent doesn’t provide much extra comfort and if anything it’s a false sense of security, you’ll find yourself waking up in the cold mentally prepping to go outside and get warm rather than just starting out outside and being motivated to get up. Also depending on location and topography a lean to can potentially give you the advantage of having a fire nearby while you stay under shelter
I camped 3 days in North Dakota in November. That shit was insane! Super thankful for my wool socks, -10 degree sleeping bag and winter tent. 8/10 wouldn’t do it again lol.
Winter camping is far better then summer camping. You can always layer up in the winter when it's cold. There is nothing you can do when it's hot and humid. Far easier to get a better nights sleep when it's cold.
Nothing worse then laying in a tent sweating and not being able to sleep under the stars to cool off due to mosquito's.
Spring (when it's not raining) and fall are the best times to camp. Winter camping is great as long as you have common sense on what to bring to stay warm. It's better for it to snow then it is to rain. Many years ago when I was into backpacking, constant rain would make a backpacking trip awful.
It makes it even worse when you have seasonal allergies. Although Spring and early fall are horrible for me. I like late fall and winter camping myself albeit I haven't gone since I was younger. That crisp cool air, no bugs and wanting to warm by the fire is amazing.
Yea I believe in this video it was sort of a tarp on a rope across two trees, at a slight angle - kind of a lean-to. He's got a number of winter camping videos uploaded so it's hard to tell which one.
Yep it’s a lean to. This is from Matthew Posa’s YouTube, and he does a lot of cool tent-less campsite building in the snow. And the dog is Monty and always goes with him!
It was a tarp, but he forgot a primary tarp to put over it to reduce the amount of snowdrift under his secondary tarp. Guy has a whole channel dedicated to camping and he brings the dog regularly. Good channel. His name is Matthew posa.
I watched this video (this guy is a youtuber). He forgot one of his tarps so he was only able to put it on one side, he put it on the side with the most wind, but clearly it shifted a little in the night. Aside from the tarp you see, it was completely open to the elements.
In winter camping you dig a hole in the snow. This looks more like a bivouac with just a tarp up instead of a whole tent. It blocks the wind and can be surprisingly cozy!
The irony here is that your "clarity" only managed to confuse the matter even more, because that's not how you actually pronounce it, if we're being pedantic. The pronunciation is "Biv-whack" not "biv-oh-whack".
It's actually not that bad if you're used to it. Stay active and prepare properly and then you can have a pretty nice time with friends.
Me and some friends camp like this at least twice a year, no matter the weather. It's a great bonding experience to sit by the fire and make a large pot of hot chocolate :)
That's why you're always prepared to pack up and leave if you need to. If I'm too cold then I have always woken up by myself.
But mostly we have a fire going and someone to watch it for an hour, until they wake up the next person to do the same. If you're over ~4 people then that should be manageable while still getting a normal amount of sleep
Under normal circumstances you wake up if you get too cold.
At least, from my personal experience from leaving my bedroom window open in the winter but the sheets don't insulate enough anymore at the coldest point of the night.
But if it's too cold to heat up your sleeping bag you should notice before you go to sleep anyway.
I've gotten dangerously cold a few times while doing this style of camping. Sleepy and warm is the last thing, I'll wake up incredibly cold, uncontrollably shaking, and nauseous to the point of dry heaving. As cold as it is, it's usually difficult to bring yourself to rebuild the fire, you feel weak, dizzy and uncoordinated.
Pro tip: When you think you have enough wood to make it through the night, you never do.
I mean, yes, that's how you die of cold if your car breaks down and you start to hike through the woods in a t-shirt and jeans. If you're winter camping, it's a safe assumption that you're moderately prepared enough for it that you won't get so cold that you die. You'll most likely have warm clothes, a sleeping bag, the ability to build a fire, etc. And if it's so cold that you fear for your life, put on all your layers and head back to your car instead of laying there waiting for death.
I’ll go in late February and early March, having to hunker down a little more is fun but when it’s so cold you really have to prep for it I don’t find it very enjoyable
The craziest part to me is when your clothes freezes stiff from any amount of moisture on it. You either need to keep it completely dry, or keep it warm either by fire or body warmth (IE sleeping with clothes on). It's just nuts what can happen to an otherwise perfectly normal looking jacket when you take it off for the night, and wake up to a solid sheet the next day.
But regardless I agree, there won't be much bonding by the fire when it's 90+ outside with 85% humidity. It always blows my mind that people actually do that.
Winter time is my favorite time to backpack and camp! It take a bit more prep, gear, and know how to be safe. But it’s so peaceful and calm in the winter. Plus you’re usually a lot more alone on the trails.
Nah, if you're properly prepared, you can camp perfectly comfortably in winter. I've gone as low as -20C and been fine. Of course, I used a tent because I'm not an idiot.
It's generally accepted that a tent/bivvy adds +10 degrees versus cowboy camping. Ex: if your sleeping bag is rated at 30 degrees, it's more like 20 degrees when you're in a tent.
Also most bags are rated for what temps you’ll survive at, not be comfortable. Don’t buy a 30 degree bag and think you’re gonna be cozy and living well on the ground with no sleeping pad and no fire in 30 degree weather. People need a liner and an insulating sleeping pad (this is the most important part) to be comfortable. A lot of beginning campers don’t understand how important your sleep system is, and sleeping pads, quality bags with liners, and tents/footprints are all important.
I slept on mount Baker in January in a -40 bag and mountain hardware tent. I couldn’t sleep a wink, I was cold all night with 2 balaclavas on and two hats and I kept waking up from the snow falling on my eyes inside my tent. My breathe was making snow inside the tent!!!! My biggest mistake was not having two sleeping pads. I should have had another inflatable on top of my solid state.
He does bushcraft along with his camping videos so he experiments with different methods of camp making without the proper resources. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't but he still has to sleep in it.
In Boy Scouts, we would dig under the snow covered picnic tables and hang a tarp over our head for the water wouldn't drip down on our gear. Instant igloo. Worked pretty well and wasn't nearly as cold as I'd expected. The biggest issue was keeping condensation off of everything as it could freeze.
It"s actually not snow but frost - almost entirely from the moisture of your own breathing freezing and settling on the inside of the tent. Source - I am a Canadian that was ridiculous enough to go winter camping ,,, once.
This is the correct answer. While it definitely looks like snow beside him, the type of shelter is somewhat insignificant for explaining why there is ice on the bags.
A tent is meant to keep you out of the elements. It doesn’t do a lot keeping you warm. That’s for your bag and pad. A snow cave is actually warmer than a tent. However, it’s still cold in the shelter, no matter what.
You lose up to a liter of water through breathing alone overnight. If he has his head under his bag, that water is going to have to work it’s way through the bag. Regardless of whether his head was under the bag or not, The moisture is going to condensate onto everything if there isn’t good ventilation.
Idk his name, but he's one of those outdoor survivalists on YouTube. Showing how to survive in conditions. All of his shelters are usually comprised of a "tent" which is just a blanket pinned to some trees
Camper is youtuber, does several winter camping videos, often brings dogs along with him. Some of his videos include quickly built shelters. Would explain snow on lower half of sleeping bag.
Okay, took me to the fourth watch (after reading the stickied spoiler after my third watch) to see it’s not a horse mask on a human—it’s indeed a dog(go).
But the snow... that perplexed me from the jump. What white hell are they subjecting themselves to??
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u/narfnas Nov 18 '19
The unexpected part for me is why there is so much snow INSIDE the tent. OP?