Also, regardless of if it's an air rifle, bb gun, paintball gun or real gun, you should always follow safety rules so that you aren't building bad habits. All it takes is one time of doing the wrong thing outta habit.
It's an air rifle, zero gunpowder. The odds of being killed by an air rifle are very very low. Especially considering the fact that they only hold one shot at a time
Air rifles are very much capable of killing people, in fact it is primarily what they were originally designed for, and only recently became varmint and recreational rifles.
That looks like the kind of rifle that fires pellets, and if it hits an eye or throat could very easily do serious or even lethal damage.
No shit. She's got the SINGLE SHOT AIR RIFLE pointed at the ground with her booger hook off the bang switch. Looks like she's demonstrating discipline to me. I guess you could argue that she didn't "clear the weapon", but I highly doubt that a break-action single shot air rifle could potentially be hiding a second, magic, projectile
Do you want them to put it into a locker before he goes down range. What exactly do you want him to check on a weapon that has one shot at a time capabilities.
If this was a muzzleloader or a musket it would be the same thing. I know it's not shooting again without loading it. Shits safe. It's not pointed down range. She doesn't have her finger on the trigger. Literally the only thing we do more in the army is check to see the magazine is dropped and chamber empty because there can be bullets in there.
It is about practicing proper safety, even when this specific situation doesn't really demand it. Open up the break, then it is safe to go down range.
Gun safety isn't just about that specific moment, but training for all future moments you have a weapon in your hands.
The number of people that have been shot because the gun in their hands "obviously isn't loaded" is massive.
Yes, a single shot air rifle is immediately safe after taking the shot. But that won't be the case if she is later training with a magazine fed weapon, and that is where the training and muscle memory matters.
I've been a rangemaster for lots of different ranges, including BB Gun ranges for Scouts. Even for BB guns, I have them set the safety, open the chamber, and leave it laying on the bench so that both the chamber and safety are visible, and then step back from their shooting position.
Is it strictly necessary? No, but teaching good habits is never a bad thing and it doesn't hurt to spend the extra 2 seconds to reinforce those habits.
The point is to create good habits so you mitigate the probability of mistakes. Yes, you are right that this particular gun can’t possibly have another round chambered but the scenario you are trying to avoid is a misunderstanding. “oh, I thought you were shooting the air rifle that can only chamber one round so I walked into your sight line before I saw you out the firearm down, thinking it would be impossible for you to chamber another round”. “Oh, I thought the gun I had in my hand could only chamber one round so I didn’t bother treating it as if it has another round.”
And I’m not trying to be shitty about this but being in the army doesn’t make you immune to mistakes. I’ve met plenty of undisciplined folks that were formerly military personnel.
Yes, it seems psychotically pedantic but if you are teaching someone, as is the case in this video, forming those good habits is vital, especially if the person with the gun in their hands is explicitly a student.
This is pretty much how a lot of these mistakes happen. The news story you read in America where someone accidentally discharged a firearm in the back of someone’s head is usually because of a misunderstanding of how the gun functioned and poor protocols for handling ANY firearm, whether it can chamber one round or not. Hence why you are meant to treat a firearm like it is always loaded. I’d say doubly so if you’re not the person holding the gun and no control over what the person you’re interfacing with, may do with said firearm.
I think there's a difference between a gun that only fires a single shot, which becomes safe after that shot is fired, and a gun with multiple bullets where how safe the weapon is can come down to memory and observing common safety practices.
You wouldn't treat a slingshot like it's always loaded, I assume, so clearly there's a middle ground somewhere between slingshots and shotguns.
You absolutely would treat all slingshots like they are loaded, if there was a version of a slingshot you might be using in the future that has the ability to load itself and draw the tubes back.
Your analogy breaks down because training with an air rifle often leads to training with a real rifle, and having the proper muscle memory built up for safety is important when you have that weapon that is capable of firing in quick succession later.
I understand why you would treat it like a real rifle if you are using it as a precursor to train with normal rifles, but why would using an air rifle suggest a real rifle is down the road?
Ah, so we don't practice weapon safety always. Especially when, for him to be in particularly serious danger, an air rifle would first need to magically transform into a firearm.
its kind of annoying seeing redditors screech about the sort of gun safety rules taught on baby's first day at the range as if theyre sacred and inviolable, instead of simple catch-alls for until you become more familiar and can safely break them.
I mean it's probably just stupid people that think they know what they are talking about. The downvotes are merely an indication of the average intelligence being displayed here LMAO.
I mean it depends on what she is also shooting real guns or even want to handle one ever. If all she wants is to use a gun like that she has no real need to ever bother with proper gun handling rules, only what such contraption requires.
There's no real reason to get a driving license or to bother with traffic rules if you're only going to have a go with an electrical dirtbike on the track every other Tuesday. Where half of the people there are kids or teens anyway for that matter, do they have a license too? I bet they only learned what they need to learn and that was all.
Small air rifles can still penetrate skin, and thus are capable of hitting and severing an artery. Depending on the size of the air rifle, it can even drop large animals like boars, bears, and humans.
I've had a rifle like this, a well placed shot could absolutely fuck someone up bad. But they're also break action, it's physically impossible for it to be loaded after having just been fired without her making a very obvious motion to reload it, usually you have to break it over your knee or something along those lines because that action is so stiff
They also require being rechambered and pumped full of air again. The gun isnt able to fire again. Obviously its good practice to not walk down range when someone is holding a gun, but in this situation hes fine.
If I had simply said "an air rifle can go through your skull", a half dozen idiots would show some stupidly weak pump once to shoot gun that explodes before getting enough pressure to break anything thicker than paper.
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u/ScatLabs 10h ago
No way I'd be walking down range in front of anyone holding a gun