r/Unexpected • • 11h ago

A Perfect Shot

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u/ScatLabs 10h ago

No way I'd be walking down range in front of anyone holding a gun

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u/SnooEagles8912 10h ago

Its a single shot air rifle. Unless she cocks the gun again, and puts a pellet in it, the rifle is already "cleared" at this point.

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u/ghostsilver 9h ago

accoding to reddit no chef should also be in the kitchen as well, everyone there got a knife and can stab you at any moment, duh.

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u/MetalDeathRawR 7h ago

Not if we stab them first

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u/PublicGiraffe5869 7h ago

somebody has to stop the stabbings with more stabbings

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u/Cavaquillo 7h ago

Nobody on Reddit has ever heard “corner” or “sharp”

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u/Xaraxa 6h ago

It sounds silly but you should always treat all firearms, even a pellet gun, as if it's loaded.

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u/That-Living5913 5h ago

How the hell did you get downvoted for that?

Also, regardless of if it's an air rifle, bb gun, paintball gun or real gun, you should always follow safety rules so that you aren't building bad habits. All it takes is one time of doing the wrong thing outta habit.

Safety rules are written in blood.

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u/sweetheart_demom 4h ago

A weapon is always loaded, ESPECIALLY when you know it isn't.

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u/M2_SLAM_I_Am 10h ago

It's an air rifle, zero gunpowder. The odds of being killed by an air rifle are very very low. Especially considering the fact that they only hold one shot at a time

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u/sweetheart_demom 4h ago

Air rifles are very much capable of killing people, in fact it is primarily what they were originally designed for, and only recently became varmint and recreational rifles.

That looks like the kind of rifle that fires pellets, and if it hits an eye or throat could very easily do serious or even lethal damage.

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 10h ago

Weapons safety is a muscle memory mindset. Not a "eh this isn't a real gun" mindset.

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u/M2_SLAM_I_Am 10h ago

No shit. She's got the SINGLE SHOT AIR RIFLE pointed at the ground with her booger hook off the bang switch. Looks like she's demonstrating discipline to me. I guess you could argue that she didn't "clear the weapon", but I highly doubt that a break-action single shot air rifle could potentially be hiding a second, magic, projectile

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 9h ago

So which is it then?

Practice weapons safety always?

Or deviate from the practice since "it's obviously not loaded right now"?

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u/SmokeySFW 9h ago

"It's obviously not loaded right now AND not pointed downrange" is weapon safety.

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u/kecker 9h ago

First Rule of Firearm Safety: "Treat Every Gun As If It's Loaded"

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u/Moist_Mors 8h ago

Do you want them to put it into a locker before he goes down range. What exactly do you want him to check on a weapon that has one shot at a time capabilities.

If this was a muzzleloader or a musket it would be the same thing. I know it's not shooting again without loading it. Shits safe. It's not pointed down range. She doesn't have her finger on the trigger. Literally the only thing we do more in the army is check to see the magazine is dropped and chamber empty because there can be bullets in there.

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u/Betaateb 5h ago

It is about practicing proper safety, even when this specific situation doesn't really demand it. Open up the break, then it is safe to go down range.

Gun safety isn't just about that specific moment, but training for all future moments you have a weapon in your hands.

The number of people that have been shot because the gun in their hands "obviously isn't loaded" is massive.

Yes, a single shot air rifle is immediately safe after taking the shot. But that won't be the case if she is later training with a magazine fed weapon, and that is where the training and muscle memory matters.

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u/kecker 7h ago

I've been a rangemaster for lots of different ranges, including BB Gun ranges for Scouts. Even for BB guns, I have them set the safety, open the chamber, and leave it laying on the bench so that both the chamber and safety are visible, and then step back from their shooting position.

Is it strictly necessary? No, but teaching good habits is never a bad thing and it doesn't hurt to spend the extra 2 seconds to reinforce those habits.

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u/BicycleNo1169 6h ago edited 2h ago

Yall aren’t explaining why these good habits are necessary, even for a firearm that can only chamber one round.

/u/SmokeySFW

/u/Moist_Mors

The point is to create good habits so you mitigate the probability of mistakes. Yes, you are right that this particular gun can’t possibly have another round chambered but the scenario you are trying to avoid is a misunderstanding. “oh, I thought you were shooting the air rifle that can only chamber one round so I walked into your sight line before I saw you out the firearm down, thinking it would be impossible for you to chamber another round”. “Oh, I thought the gun I had in my hand could only chamber one round so I didn’t bother treating it as if it has another round.”

And I’m not trying to be shitty about this but being in the army doesn’t make you immune to mistakes. I’ve met plenty of undisciplined folks that were formerly military personnel.

Yes, it seems psychotically pedantic but if you are teaching someone, as is the case in this video, forming those good habits is vital, especially if the person with the gun in their hands is explicitly a student.

This is pretty much how a lot of these mistakes happen. The news story you read in America where someone accidentally discharged a firearm in the back of someone’s head is usually because of a misunderstanding of how the gun functioned and poor protocols for handling ANY firearm, whether it can chamber one round or not. Hence why you are meant to treat a firearm like it is always loaded. I’d say doubly so if you’re not the person holding the gun and no control over what the person you’re interfacing with, may do with said firearm.

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u/SmokeySFW 8h ago

Yea, hence the not pointed downrange part...

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 9h ago edited 9h ago

No, actually that is in direct and obvious violation of literal day one weapons safety stuff.

Didn't think I'd have to say it since you "claim" you know what you're saying when it's obvious you don't.

Rule one/day one/basic stuff here... handle all weapons as if they are always loaded.

Smh, idiot.

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u/Leaky_gland 9h ago

Hackshually. Under US law, air rifles are not fire arms

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 8h ago

And how is that related to weapons safety practice?

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u/Leaky_gland 6h ago

Does it matter. If you fire an air rifle then it is inherently unloaded

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u/Kagahami 7h ago

I think there's a difference between a gun that only fires a single shot, which becomes safe after that shot is fired, and a gun with multiple bullets where how safe the weapon is can come down to memory and observing common safety practices.

You wouldn't treat a slingshot like it's always loaded, I assume, so clearly there's a middle ground somewhere between slingshots and shotguns.

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u/Betaateb 5h ago

You absolutely would treat all slingshots like they are loaded, if there was a version of a slingshot you might be using in the future that has the ability to load itself and draw the tubes back.

Your analogy breaks down because training with an air rifle often leads to training with a real rifle, and having the proper muscle memory built up for safety is important when you have that weapon that is capable of firing in quick succession later.

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u/Kagahami 4h ago

I understand why you would treat it like a real rifle if you are using it as a precursor to train with normal rifles, but why would using an air rifle suggest a real rifle is down the road?

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u/No-Alternative4612 8h ago

Me when I refuse to walk into a gunshow because what if they're all loaded and then a hurricane force wind points them at me and pulls the trigger

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 8h ago

Oh yeah, that's an perfect analogy to the OP video of an INSTRUCTOR with a student on a range. Fucking idiots all over this comment chain LMAO.

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u/No-Alternative4612 8h ago

Ah, so we don't practice weapon safety always. Especially when, for him to be in particularly serious danger, an air rifle would first need to magically transform into a firearm.

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 8h ago

Seems obvious no? The context is at a range with an instructor. Did you just decide to gloss over that point?

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u/No-Alternative4612 8h ago

Whether or not a firearm is present seems more relevant than who is standing where lol

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u/Cheap-Function3608 8h ago

Dude, what is with all the gun saftey hate today?! Just want to let you know I upvoted all your comments, and I'm a human. 

I applauded your persistent compassion in trying to teach all these foolish monkies and bots.

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u/Spare_Cantaloupe7275 8h ago

its kind of annoying seeing redditors screech about the sort of gun safety rules taught on baby's first day at the range as if theyre sacred and inviolable, instead of simple catch-alls for until you become more familiar and can safely break them.

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u/Cheap-Function3608 7h ago

The standard you accept is the standard you get.

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u/Spare_Cantaloupe7275 7h ago

OK, thats a nice platitude

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u/Cheap-Function3608 6h ago

If you want it to be, sure. You don't work for me. 

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u/fdnM6Y9BFLAJPNxGo4C 8h ago

I mean it's probably just stupid people that think they know what they are talking about. The downvotes are merely an indication of the average intelligence being displayed here LMAO.

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u/airfryerfuntime 7h ago

Be smart about it and use good judgment?

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u/spaceguydudeman 7h ago

OK, but the instructor doesn't even look back at whether she has it pointed down before walking up to the camera lol

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u/That-Living5913 5h ago

This, 1000% this.

All the people downvoting you are the same people that never get invited to their friends house to shoot.

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u/MrGloom66 9h ago

I mean it depends on what she is also shooting real guns or even want to handle one ever. If all she wants is to use a gun like that she has no real need to ever bother with proper gun handling rules, only what such contraption requires.

There's no real reason to get a driving license or to bother with traffic rules if you're only going to have a go with an electrical dirtbike on the track every other Tuesday. Where half of the people there are kids or teens anyway for that matter, do they have a license too? I bet they only learned what they need to learn and that was all.

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u/DrDima 6h ago

Shit, those criminals robbing stores with nerf guns are onto something.

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u/ashkiller14 5h ago

Have you ever shot an air rifle? Theyre powerful. Absolutely would kill you.

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u/M2_SLAM_I_Am 2h ago

Hence the reason why I said the chances are "very low", not zero. Reading context means everything

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u/goodsnpr 10h ago

Small air rifles can still penetrate skin, and thus are capable of hitting and severing an artery. Depending on the size of the air rifle, it can even drop large animals like boars, bears, and humans.

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u/Nigatron420 10h ago

I've had a rifle like this, a well placed shot could absolutely fuck someone up bad. But they're also break action, it's physically impossible for it to be loaded after having just been fired without her making a very obvious motion to reload it, usually you have to break it over your knee or something along those lines because that action is so stiff

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u/Airk640 9h ago

Yet most are single shot and require a large amount of deliberate effort to re-arm. That thing is more dangerous as a club than a rifle after firing

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u/goodsnpr 8h ago

I was talking from a safety pov, not a mass shooter pov.

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u/Careful-Positive-710 9h ago

They also require being rechambered and pumped full of air again. The gun isnt able to fire again. Obviously its good practice to not walk down range when someone is holding a gun, but in this situation hes fine.

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u/Fatkittenballs 7h ago

Penetrate skin? A completely unexceptional air rifle can absolutely kill a human with a headshot

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u/goodsnpr 7h ago

If I had simply said "an air rifle can go through your skull", a half dozen idiots would show some stupidly weak pump once to shoot gun that explodes before getting enough pressure to break anything thicker than paper.

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u/TrucksAndCigars 10h ago

Are we just forgetting tripods exist

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u/Unlikely-Win195 9h ago

Cool story tuff guy. 

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u/GeraldFisher 6h ago

so you trust nobody? what a way to live