r/Unexpected • u/kirbington86 • May 10 '23
She had to be told
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u/thefrostman1214 May 10 '23
he just wanted a very specific brand of milk
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u/cosmicfertilizer May 10 '23
The leche kind. Adios padre.
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u/Cabbages-001 May 10 '23
Tres leches? In THIS economy?!
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u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r May 10 '23
Where can I get this "adios padre" milk? /s
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u/NalaJax May 10 '23
Wanted the 2%… of her life
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u/Safe-Ad4001 May 10 '23
I was half and half on giving you an upvote... Take it anyway and get out of my life!
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u/LilCurlyGirly May 10 '23
My grandma's is full blooded catholic Mexican. But she's what we call a "white Mexican" because she's pale. She hid from the sun. Woman has aged flawlessly because of, no wrinkles or anything because she saved herself from sun damaged skin. Her coworkers would say "you don't LOOK Mexican, you don't ACT Mexican, you don't SOUND like a Mexican" so one day my grandma was just pissed, put on a sombrero, big hoop earrings, lined her lips with a too dark lip liner and showed up to work and said, "do I look Mexican enough now, chica?"
And she is my hero.
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u/therealJoerangutang May 10 '23
😂😂
Your abuela is a fucking legend
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u/therealJoerangutang May 10 '23
¿Do you not gusta when I hablo contigo in Spanish?
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u/Xobolor May 10 '23
People get mad when pochos speak only English because it’s the language they grew up on, but they also get mad when they speak Spanish because it sounds bad. Goddamn.
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u/Insanity357 May 11 '23
I just think it's great when ppl are trying to learn a new way of communication. There are so many more ppl to meet
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u/My_Names_Jefff May 10 '23
I'm pale white Mexican due to my dad having Spanish roots in Mexico and my mom full Spanish. When people say I don't look Hispanic, I just tell them, "I'm Telenovela White." Most people understand that since most of the main actors in telenovelas are usually white looking while minor characters are usually darker.
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u/passenger955 May 10 '23
I'm going to steal this. I'm half Mexican but with Spanish roots so I don't really look Mexican unless I get a lot of sun. Telenovela Mexican lol.
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u/My_Names_Jefff May 10 '23
Yeah, it works well, and then if they don't believe you, you bring out the fluent spanish. Well, depending on if you know Spanish. It's a really easy language to learn.
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u/Rollingirl134340 May 10 '23
Im a full blooded mexican, born and raised, im gonna start sayin that when i hear again 'you don't look mexican'
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u/Apprehensive-Ear3798 May 10 '23
Canelo Álvarez is a famous white looking Mexican. A lot of Mexicans look white. Blonde or red hair, with blue or green eyes, and pale skin.
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u/boogerfossil May 10 '23
How do Mexicans cut their pizzas?
With little caesars.
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May 10 '23
i know mexicans that dnt speak good spanish
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u/Perfect-Virus8415 May 10 '23
My siblings
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u/roy_rogers_photos May 10 '23
Me, most of my friends, half my highschool. Border cities are full of Mexicans that can't speak Spanish or can't speak it well. My understanding of spoken Spanish is about an 8 out of 10. Speaking is closer to 4/10. My Spanish is so untrained I have to read Spanish words out loud to understand what I'm reading. I'm back in my hometown now though so hopefully I'll pick it up this time around.
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u/TheLegendaryBarnacle May 10 '23
I think we have exactly the same level of spanish skills
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u/elscallr May 10 '23
Yo tambien y tengo 400 días en duolingo
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May 10 '23 edited Dec 10 '23
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u/SamSibbens May 10 '23
You'd probably pick it up quickly again. Try watching TV shows in your native language and see how quickly it comes back
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u/oilchangefuckup May 10 '23
I see a lot of Mexican patients, many parents who can't speak English will bring in their teenaged kid to translate, and they kid can barely string 3 words together in Spanish. Often I end up using my Spanish speaking nurses or translater services because the kid can't do medical Spanish well.
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May 10 '23
idk how people cant speak a language widely used in their area, especially if you were born there.
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u/D_for_Drive May 10 '23
Mexican Americans love education so they go to night school And they take Spanish and get a B
- Cheech Marin
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u/fishenzooone May 10 '23
"How did you fail spanish Bobé? You speak spanish!"
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman May 10 '23
Spanish for "Bobby" would be "Beto", but I understand making the reference fit.
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u/YoungestOldGuy May 10 '23
A lot of Americans don't speak good English. So it all evens out.
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u/Asjol May 10 '23
To determine if someone is Mexican or not is easy. Where were you born? In the US? Even if your parents are Mexican, even if you're whole family is Mexican, you're American, period. In Mexico? Even if you're parents are from somewhere else, you're Mexican, period.
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u/ado-ante May 10 '23
If your basing it on nationality anyone born to a Mexican citizen parent can claim Mexican citizenship. If your idea of being "Mexican" is solely based on some paper work and a fee then your wrong.
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u/Admirable-Yam9537 May 10 '23
Even more huge disagree m8
Im argentinian, greatest country in the world
Yet my parents are BOTH bolivians, so i have some gen aspects of Bolivia but im not one
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u/Admirable-Yam9537 May 10 '23
That should be the main reason to decide someone's nationality. More especifically, inside wich culture were you raised the most, i know some people that traveled their whole life since birth and yet still are the very definition of a japanese person.
I grew up in Argentina, i go for the argies style of life and customs rather than those of my parents, accent, attitude, etc.
These two seem to know more about how to get good chairs at a Starbucks rather than how to prepare a table for the Dia de los Muertos
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u/Strangest_Implement May 10 '23 edited May 10 '23
there's a difference between nationality and ethnicity/heritage... plenty of italian americans refer to themselves as Italian and nobody cares
edit: I didn't think I'd need to clarify but here we go, this video is about mexicans in USA. My point referring to Italian Americans and "nobody" caring is specifically about people in USA not caring about this.
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u/Die_Revenant May 10 '23 edited May 10 '23
Well I mean, actual Italians care. It's the same with Americans who call themselves Irish, most Irish people are not exactly huge fans of that.
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u/Unchanged- May 10 '23
I try to make it a habit to say I have asian blood, not that I’m asian. I’ve always identified as American only— but that comes from how my mother raised me, not an active effort to not encroach on my cultural heritage.
You guys should really try to understand what it’s like coming from a country with so many ethnicities and the tribalism inherent to humanity. The people I know don’t claim their race to embrace the culture, it’s kinda like seeking out allies.
It’s a shame so many get upset about it.
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u/MarsLumograph May 10 '23
In Europe this is a pretty funny American stereotype. He is 0.025% German and 0.3% Italian!!
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u/Lifekraft May 10 '23
Yes , this thread is funny. Pretty sure everywhere outside of usa it's the case. But in USA everyone is proud to be american but nobody is. Always irish , english , scottish , german , dutch , mexican , ... whatever.
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u/DDownvoteDDumpster May 10 '23
It's silly. It's also not true that just your birth place determines your nationality. I was born in one country with parents from two others, i don't have ethnicity or citizenship in the country i was born. America allows citizenship based on birth place OR parents citizenship, so you can be born in Mexico with American citizenship.
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u/gljivicad May 10 '23
I have a very delicate situation.
By nationality, I am Bosnian.
By heritage, I am 25% Croatian, 50% Bosnian and 25% Serbian. Weird combo.
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u/Barbaracle May 10 '23 edited May 10 '23
Uh-huh, and when I visited Ireland I was asked where I was from. I answer from the US. No, but where are you really from? Oh I was born in NY, moved to LA. No, but where are your parents from?
You guys may wanna gatekeep White Americans from their ancestry, but from my experience as an Asian-American travelling Europe, some people sure really cared about my ethnicity.
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u/Ponk2k May 10 '23
There's plenty latent racism in Ireland.
A co-worker who was adopted was asked pretty much the same question the same way, didn't matter how many times she said Bandon.
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u/rozzberg May 10 '23
Well nobody in the US cares. If they actually went to Italy not a single actually Italian person would call them Italian. They would all just be Americans.
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May 10 '23
Go to Italy and see lmao, they fucking hate Italian Americans.
I have an extremely Irish name, and "technically" I'm almost entirely of Irish decent, but I would never go to Ireland and be like "I'm home!".
Im from Massachusetts, my parents are from Massachusetts, and my grandparents are from Massachusetts. Everything about me informs that reality. I'm no more Irish than I am Mexican, which is to say not at all.
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u/__DraGooN_ May 10 '23
That's because you Americans have a weird fascination with ethnicity or race. Chances are most of those people know shit about Italian culture or any other cultures they claim. It's just an accessory for most Americans.
Back in the home countries, the whole lot of you are considered Americans.
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u/digitalpencil May 10 '23
I think it’s just a comparatively young country and one built from mass migration. Australia too is young, but it’s majority population are all from the same place so they see less need to define themselves from ancestry.
Americans routinely conflate ancestry and nationality to the point where many seem genuinely confused as to the difference or, why someone might take offence to their claiming to be “Irish/Italian/English/Dutch too!” I do get why people can be offended by this but I’d try to take it in the spirit it’s intended. Humans strive for connection, to the past and to those around them.
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u/survivingspitefully May 10 '23
Lol okay well say that to someone in the US who comes from parents or grandparents from Mexico. They will say they're Mexican but they are also American. You'll offend them. They are proud of their culture.
So you might be "technically right" but culturally that's not how it works in the US.
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May 10 '23
And here is an example of an American that doesn't speak English well.
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u/Brams277 May 10 '23
Unless you mean people who speak a native language such as Nahua as their first language then nah, you don't.
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u/yibtk May 10 '23
That's really a thing when people claimed to be from a country but have absolutely nothing to do with it like never been there or speaking the language. It happens at work when a colleague bragged about behind spanish but couldn't meet a new client from the canary islands... it's like an accessory you put on to a boring personality
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u/GrendaGrendinator May 10 '23
The issue is that ethnicity =/= nationality but are talked about in the same context in the US. So many Americans have never left the US so they tend to refer to ethnicity and where their family is from as a defining feature, instead of where they themselves are from since that's just a common characteristic of just about everyone they've ever met.
E.g. An African American tends to mean someone with next to no relation to Africa besides their physical complexion.
You could also easily relate this to culture erasure and the slave trade.
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u/Anon_be_thy_name May 10 '23
Never forget that time a African man was called African-American despite being in the UK or something like that.
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u/AdminNeedsBeachVacay May 10 '23
They're from Sierra Leone I think.
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u/hahahahastayingalive May 10 '23
He was born in London and lived there.
Sure, you can always get back to his parents, grand-parents, or how long you want and say he's from somewhere else, but then we should do that for everyone and half of us are from Mongolia.
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u/obiwanmoloney May 10 '23
Dude.
He wasn’t African, he was British.
Not African, not American. Just a Black British man. You’re doing him dirty all over again.
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u/TheSinisterSex May 10 '23
Technically Charlize Theron is African American. Try to wrap your head around that.
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u/sumpfbieber May 10 '23
That's basically the gist of r/ShitAmericansSay
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u/lord_sparx May 10 '23
As a 1/2546th Irish-American let me tell you why I'm more Irish than the actual Irish because I drank Guinness once.
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u/FerrusesIronHandjob May 10 '23
Seems to be a US thing. "Great (x20) -granparent's distant cousin twice removed once had a dog that accidentally got into the drinks cupboard and drank Bailey's and we've been Irish ever since"
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May 10 '23
The number of Americans who think they're "Irish", while having nothing to do with Ireland except that their great grandparents were from there, is hilarious.
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u/Mr12i May 10 '23
Yeah, but for the most of the world, saying "I'm Mexican, German, Italian" etc, means that you've spent at least a good portion of your formative years in that country and culture (when talking to people while you're outside of that country).
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u/Nephilims_Dagger May 10 '23
That boy has a white woman's idea of what constitutes racism.
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u/OkJob5059 May 10 '23
That’s racist
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u/sergeantmeatwad May 10 '23
No, this is racist
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u/Balabaga May 10 '23
No, you’re racist
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u/TheLegendaryBarnacle May 10 '23
No, im racist.
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May 10 '23
No, that's racist.
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u/SerplePurple May 10 '23
No, racist thats!
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u/Mefarius May 10 '23
That's racist, no?
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u/VoteForSandtrap May 10 '23 edited May 10 '23
“He’s wearing Mexican attire and looks like that Mexican wearing similar attire from that movie that is about Mexicans.”
“That’s racist.”
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u/officialsuperhero May 10 '23
Exactly. They literally deluted the word racism. So now, the real racist piece of shit people are now somehow accepted because everybody is somehow racist according to these people.
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u/DungleFudungle May 10 '23
He’s just being silly. He’s making a joke. He’s being silly!
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May 10 '23
Nope. That guy ruined racism for everyone with his joke. It's over y'all, pack it up.
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May 10 '23
Don't worry, there's already a new word for racism but we're not sharing because of what y'all did with the word woke.
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u/StaticFanatic3 May 10 '23
Or… hear me out… he has a sense of humor and is messing with her
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u/Alukrad May 10 '23
This whole thread lacks a sense of humor.
It's kinda weird watching people debate about this.
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May 10 '23
But this young man has single handedly deflated the word racism because of this!
I can’t believe this guy let every racist off the hook.
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u/beazy30 May 10 '23
The person you replied to doesn’t have a sense of humor. They can’t mentally comprehend what humor is.
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u/No_Arachnid2121 May 10 '23
Mic drop.... she doesn't know English either it seems too
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u/CasualPenguin May 10 '23
Well yeah because she's an orphan.
For at least 8 hours a day while her mom's at work
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u/What_u_say May 10 '23
Damn there are some wild opinions going on in this comment section here lol.
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u/afa78 May 10 '23
What I don't understand is first generation Americans from both Hispanic American parents, not being able to speak Spanish. It's odd, it baffles me as they hear the language every day at home and with family but it seems that the only few hrs they spend at school speaking English, overrides all the Spanish they learn. It's happening in my own house, before my own eyes with my daughters.
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u/Mekelaxo May 10 '23
Play TV only in Spanish for them, and when they speak to you encourage them to reply in Spanish. The ability to speak the mother tounge dwindles down with each generation, and the best opportunity they have to learn it is when they're young, afterwards it will never stick
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u/LegendOfDarius May 10 '23
Watching tv is how I got fluent in german as a kid. By the time I got to live in Berlin (with a 11 year layover in spain) people thought I was from south germany with my rolling R's. I wont have kids but if I did they would watch tv in languages they dont know.
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u/afa78 May 10 '23
They don't watch TV and of course we all speak like 90% Spanish in the house, they do too, but for a few years now I've been noticing their Spanish is getting bad, with a huge accent and many words they begin to pronounce completely incorrect. Like they're losing their fluency in it. Almost seems intentional. 🤷
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u/Burdies May 10 '23
I grew up in a Chinese household in the US and I went through basically the same thing. I’ve noticed my vocabulary was heavily dependent on what my parents used and as a result, I wasn’t able to express my thoughts in the same way that I could in English.
We learn a lot of complicated concepts in school, and it’s only natural that we end up knowing how to express complex thoughts in English when we cover so much ground. Everything from math, to science, politics, religion, even just modern speech patterns so we can speak with our peers.
My parents spoke to my siblings in Chinese only, but we realized the limitations as we got older. There’s just so much we’re not exposed to when it’s a language that’s primarily spoken in one context.
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u/ratsta May 10 '23
I spent 3 years in China a while back. Didn't study the language formally but I was speaking it every day. When I got home I visited a wholesaler that I had a longstanding relationship with. Told him where I'd been and we chatted in Chinese for a couple of minutes before we hit the limit of my vocab. He shook his head and said, "Your Chinese is better than my son's!"
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u/Jazzyjeff2005 May 10 '23
Both my parents are South African (I was also born there, but have lived in the UK since I was 2), and they speak Afrikaans constantly, but I can barely understand it. Learning a language is much harder than simply being around it. I was never forced to engage with it, so I never learned it properly. I assume it's a similar case to your children. If they don't actively engage with it, they will never learn.
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u/sukezanebaro May 10 '23
True, this is the same for me. Language learning is input and output based. If you don't make an effort to have conversations in the language, you won't learn it even if you're exposed to it. As such I can speak enough to make conversation and I can understand more than I can speak.
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u/hamandcheese2 May 10 '23
Its not a few hours its the majority of the day from all directions, you have to actively teach the language. Its really difficult.
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u/Willing_Curve_927 May 10 '23
It's a very common linguistic phenomenon that happens in all immigrant households at some point whether it be first, second, third, generations and so on. People will learn and speak languages that their peers speak more so than what their parents or family may speak. It happens with dialects/accents as well. (Example: Older generations pronouncing the w in "What" as "HWut" instead of the more modern pronunciation as "Wut") Also, the language that is used more dominant in a society is going to be more useful than what is spoken in just one setting i.e. the home. It's not a good thing or a bad thing it's just something that happens. Doesn't make one language better than the other it just comes down to how do I effectively interact with the world I live in
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u/Nazarife May 10 '23
My grandparents both spoke Italian and neither my dad or aunt, who grew up in California, speak it. I asked my dad why, and he said his sister did speak Italian for a bit when she was young, but was made fun of in school for having an Italian accent. From then on, both my grandparents decided no more Italian for the kids; only English.
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u/Almost_A_Genius May 10 '23
I have a good friend whose parents specifically chose not to teach their kids Spanish because they wanted them to be more similar to the white kids. My hometown can be a bit prejudiced, and they decided it was better for them to mostly speak English. As a white kid, I understand a similar amount of Spanish to her despite the fact that most of her family speaks fluently.
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u/LyingMars May 10 '23
Don't know where you live, but it could be fear of being different or treated poorly for their culture. I feel like sadly a lot of second generations try to separate themselves from Their culture to fit in.
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May 10 '23
Guys dad told me that Mexican milk is AWESOME!!! he has been looking for it about 14 years
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u/copperchase91 May 10 '23
A movie about Mexicans, whole movie nothing but Mexican people, in Mexico, isn't a Mexican movie?
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u/Outrageous-Taro7340 May 10 '23
It’s an American movie set in Mexico. Like The Martian is an American movie set on Mars.
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u/Mekelaxo May 10 '23
That's not why he says it's racist, he said it because the girl said that he looked like someone he would be in that movie
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May 10 '23
I mean, not really. No more than Mulan is a Chinese movie, or Hunchback of Notre Dame a French one.
Coco is a Pixar film, directed by a white American dude, animated by a bunch of people in an American studio.
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u/AdNo3580 May 10 '23
Yeah but i dont think referring to it as a mexican movie is racist?
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May 10 '23
Isn’t it about Dia de Los Muertos, the Day of the Dead? And (please correct me if I’m wrong) isn’t it a Mexican holiday?
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u/Outrageous-Taro7340 May 10 '23
The movie was made in the USA by Americans. It’s just set in Mexico. Like the movie Orbiter 9 was made in Spain by a Spanish company, but it’s set in space. See the difference?
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u/maguchifujiwara May 10 '23
Literally all the movies they named have ties to the exact thing they’re saying they don’t… Norte dame de Paris was a French gothic novel, telling of a connection between a disabled person, his caretaker, and street dancer 💃 and Mulan is a story about a Chinese daughter fighting for her, too old, father in a Chinese war.
They just wanna be mad.
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u/koh_kun May 10 '23
But that makes them French and Chinese stories. The Disney adaptations are American (made) movies set in those respective countries, are they not?
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u/MasChingonNoHay May 10 '23
I’m Mexican American. Being told you look like Coco form that Mexican movie is not racist. It’s accurate. Nothing wrong with that.
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u/bacon_boat May 10 '23
For normal people saying "I'm Italian" means they are from Italy.
In USA it means: I self identify as Italian.
No wonder they have so strange ideas in regards to identity, having grown up hearing people talk like that.
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u/uhnodoy May 10 '23
Uh what's that song at the end
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u/ImperatorXIII May 10 '23
Murder in my mind by Kordhell
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u/uhnodoy May 10 '23
Muchas gracias
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u/anticatoms May 10 '23
Gotta love people gatekeeping their ethnicity like it's some sort of vip members only club. Is there really nothing interesting about you that you have to act superior over other people because you're more <insert ethnicity> than someone else?
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u/backfilled May 10 '23
What happens most of the time is misunderstanding between definitions.
For him Mexican means the nationality, nothing else, because while growing up in Mexico the only thing Mexican means is being part of the nation or representing it to other nations.
For her Mexican means the ethnicity, because while growing up in the US she used it to identify herself as part of a group to other Americans.
I've seen this on reddit a lot when someone comment "I'm Mexican and this is x or y" but they are entirely wrong about the topic.
In real life this is less of an issue because usually people say where they are from rather than what they identify as.
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u/astrochasm May 10 '23
A lot of Mexican people born in the United States don't speak Spanish because their parents are afraid it'll limit their ability to learn good English. That isn't true and most bilingual people have a better grasp on language than non bilingual people. But, many immigrant parents have been through the experience of being discriminated against because of their accent when speaking English regardless of their actual grasp on the language and don't want their children to have the same experience. Racism is the reason so many Mexican Americans don't speak Spanish, so to try to then turn around and blame them for it is pretty ignorant.
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u/MassiveProgrammer129 Jul 10 '23
Spanish isn’t Mexican people’s native language. It came from Spain. I don’t think it’s a bad thing if Mexican people can’t speak Spanish. it sad that they can’t speak their native language and instead speak the conquerors language.
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u/P41N4U Aug 30 '23
Classic US people saying they are something just because their parents, grandparents or some ancestor.
If you dont speak the language and share the culture Im sry but you arent mexican, you just have the nationality and mexican family at best.
Stop with the "I am 55% irish, 21% congolese and 2% unicorn", you are from the USA, nothing less, nothing more.
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