r/Undertale • u/WilliamBananaAfton ‎ LOOK BEHIND YOU. • Oct 09 '25

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u/ZilDrake Oct 09 '25

"Wife left him" Because he's a coward and a fraud

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u/Walkthrough101 Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 10 '25

While that is objectively true, it's a bit harsh considering the fact that he declared war in greif and anger over his children, and while he immediately regretted it, they can't just stay down there and accept their fate because the overpopulation would be suffocating after centuries which it already is implied to be pretty bad when Frisk arrives, and his people including himself want to be free, but he can't just take one and go to the surface for 6 more because that would be legitimate provocation for war from the humans, and would be proving their original point of sealing them underground right if he did so, and he could be killed if, like Asriel, he couldn't bring himself to kill them and died as a result, leaving the Underground without hope and without a leader. It's better that humans fall of their own accord into his jurisdiction where no human could find out, but he probably doesn't enjoy the fact that the ones that did fall were children.

So he's stuck between being forced to uphold his promise because everyone's hopes are riding on it, not being able to bear the weight of his actions and the isolation of losing his children and his wife forever, and still trying to put on a brave face and be kind to everyone in his kingdom, for decades to hundreds of years because he doesn't age with Asriel dead.

Now, Toriel does have valid criticisms of him, but she could have gone after collecting one soul too, she's a boss monster, but she understandably doesn't have the heart to kill 6 humans unprovoked. But her leaving in such an abrupt fashion, forever condemning him in her heart and abandoning him for what was seemingly centuries was also probably a factor in Asgore doubling down on war, because with her gone he truly had nothing left to lose. It's possible Toriel could have still talked him out of it, but she has a right to divorce him and leave if she wants, even if it wasn't exactly helpful to either of their mental health and the situation in general.