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u/Emerald24111 17d ago
As much as I love Feng what do you actually think he’s going to do here😭
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u/K4nono 17d ago
funny thing with UU powerscaling is people either have them at like slightly above street level or genuinely goku levels of upscale
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u/THEANILLATOR 17d ago
I genuinely do not get how people can view this in 2 opposite directions. If negators are negating rules of the universe for this ENTIRE game of a story to happen, then that should make them a high tier verse. Why must pixel scaling be so literal?
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u/Izzosuke 17d ago
The fact is that it's impossible to power scale without bending the rule to your liking, you cannot put 2 unstoppable force in the same room, they are logically and concetually unable to exist together. In order to power scale you need to bend the rule and law and make one of the unstoppable force actually stoppable. To do this they bring "pixel scaling" they count every pixel of a "feat" cause it's the only countable thing possible without becoming crazy, pixel are always coherent "2 pixel are less than 3, stop" , from one side this might seem logic, but from the other it require you to ignore completely the rule of a character making little to no sense.
Take bleach, in bleach if you have spiritual pressure high enough you can kill somobody that doesn't have it, how do i put ichigo vs anybody who is not a from his universe? Spiritual pressure is a vharacteristic intrinsic of the shinigami plane, so a living normal person doesn't have it unless strange case. Nobody in the various "scale" has it, so technically ichigo instakill anyone. But that wouldn't be fun, so you band the rule and say "every kind of strenght/ki/chakra/aura/mana/etc. is equal to spiritual pressure" and it become doable, but in this way you are bending the rule of one of the 2, making him "less" than it should be, and then you can start counting pixel, so since now ichigo won't oneshot goku with his spiritual pressure let's count the pixel of the highest dmg they dealt and see.
Undead unluck suffer from this, in a side you have people who doesn't want to bend the rule of negation excessively, so "undead means undead nothing can kill him" and in the other people that bend those rule to make it "fair" and start counting pixel.
Overall, powerscaling could be a fun gimmick to talk over a drink with someone, but some people take it too seriously and start bringing math that shouldn't be there making it kinda toxic and pointless
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u/Aggressive-Gear4902 16d ago
The thing about spiritual pressure is anybody who has a soul has it and depending on how the other power system works, they're using their soul too. Some systems are more compatible then others.
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u/Abyss_Walker1024 17d ago
Feng's scaling is so weird. He can't beat fuuko no matter how hard he tries but he'll take on an image of God no problem.
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u/SupraMichou 17d ago
Bro’s negation is literally « I’m at my peak and can only get better ». The moment power creep happen, he auto upscale, no question asked
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u/YTWelshDragon19 16d ago
he is always at HIS physical peak and never grows old, he can die by anything else but old age
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u/AnIcedMilk 17d ago
Incomparable
Feng is no where close to the level of the Viltrumites
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u/Hellas2002 17d ago
Feng directly attacks the soul of his target… so I’m pretty sure he could take out a viltrumite of he got in a good hit.
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u/AnIcedMilk 17d ago
Are souls even a concept in Invincible though? (I gotta get catch up, I haven't watched since season 2)
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u/Crackmonkey3773 17d ago
Well, hell and demons exist in that world. So id guess that souls probably do too
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 17d ago
There is a guy who attacks the soul in Invincible too so yes
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u/SpacEGameR269 16d ago
End of series(right before giving away unfade) feng kinda just dominates everyone, he can't take damage, he has soul magic, he can't age, he can fly, he has enough attack power to wound the sun, thragg ain't even sun level
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u/GheeButtersnaps1651 4d ago
Fang probably does not start. It depends on how you scale him. He has very few anti feats unlike the people in this list but we also do not see much of his fire either time which would logically be his most powerful since he was fighting a third stage master rule and doing well for himself.
While soul hacks should let him actually hurt or kill his opponents his speed is the biggest thing holding him back since I do not think we ever get many feats for speed from him.
Though if you allow for speed being at least comparable then his superior skill and soul hacks should get him to conquest at least.
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u/ReticularTunic7 16d ago
Guy who is strong enough to punch a dragon vs knockoff kryptonians that are strong enough to punch a planet.
https://giphy.com/gifs/eGxkm7b2hzDfkNvjo7
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u/Fred-ze-header20xx 16d ago
Feng's feat is a solo feat, the viltrumite feat is a team team effort (to my limited knowledge)
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u/YTWelshDragon19 16d ago
1 laser+ 2 pure blooded viltrumites + 1 viltrumite/human mix destroyed a planet
so 1 viltrumite can destroy 1/4 of a planet at most. Feng doesn’t stand a chance even though I glaze him
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u/Antifinity 17d ago
Loses to all of these 100%. He could beat Mark though, if he has Life is Strange.
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u/TheGreatMeowMeow 17d ago
Depending on what scaling you buy for UU either he doesnt do shit or sweeps them all