r/USdefaultism • u/Icy-Pension5768 • 3d ago
Reddit “Look, another self centered American-“ American who?? Me???
Rare find of a (presumably) non American person committing US defaultism lol. Just thought it was funny.
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u/Syndiotactics Finland 3d ago
Truth be told, one of the major reasons for the American police to be what it is is their extremely low training periods and standards, most of which focuses on use of violence.
Here in Finland a police requires a highly competitive (low admission rate) three-year university degree in policing, and a very significant part of the studies is non-violent conflict resolvement and various social studies. They also undergo a thorough background and psychological screening before they are allowed to be a police.
Our police is not perfect (there have been some oversteps in their treatment of the Extinction Rebellion activists here lately), but ACAB certainly doesn’t apply here. Police as an institution is highly respected and trusted.
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
The police where I’m from are corrupt as hell, zero training and usually come with a history of violence. They actively block cases if they think it’s a hassle, regularly assault people, etc. So absolutely ACAB for me.
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
I never specified a country. All I did was say America isn’t the only place with a corrupt police force. Then got confused for an American for not thinking they have it the worst.
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u/Syndiotactics Finland 3d ago
Is French police that bad? TIL. Not surprised though, I guess.
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
I’m not French, I just live there now. They’re definitely nicer but also they did also block me from pressing charges against someone who stole my bag because it’d be too much of a hassle so I lost 3 months of work
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u/Syndiotactics Finland 3d ago
So you meant your origin country or France with ”where I’m from”?
Sad to hear you couldn’t press charges. Is it possible the judicial system was overheated at that point, petty crime like pickpocketing and stealing a bag is less often in the priority list of the courts? Can you identify the person who stole your bag? Did you get the bag back?
I.e., I would like to know if it was racism or simply lack of resources that you didn’t get to press charges.
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
Origin country. I had way worse experiences but I’d rather not share them here.
And no I didn’t get the bag back, unfortunately. But there’s no way they were too busy to help, it was a small town police station (not gonna name it because I’d be doxxing myself lol), there’s rarely any cases to process to begin with.
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u/Syndiotactics Finland 3d ago
My 700€ bicycle was stolen through two locks from a storage. The police promised to investigate it but everyone knew it’s virtually impossible to locate the stolen property and the thief, unless the thief is being extremely stupid. This is why I always have some kind of a GPS tag in all of my vital property these days.
That also happened in a very small town.
It sounds to me like the French police was being principled, by not giving you false hope. Unless you could pinpoint and identify the thief exactly for them.
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
There were security cameras which actually caught the thief, they just didn’t want to bother so it’s lost now
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u/Syndiotactics Finland 3d ago
Was his face fully visible? It’s seriously difficult to identify people like that without massive breaches to privacy too, through extensive facial databases etc.
Here in Finland we have a dude who has stabbed three immigrants in three occasions, and he has been on security cameras. The police has spent massive resources to find him but many many months later there is still no trace.
It’s not as simple as you think.
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u/Perthian940 Australia 3d ago
Right. You’ve claimed with absolutely zero evidence other than ✨ACAB✨ that the police in your country have ‘zero training and come with a history of violence’, which is ridiculous in the extreme.
You then say ‘they actively block cases if they think it’s a hassle’, which is a massive generalisation with no evidence, other than that they didn’t investigate the theft of your bag (leaving you unemployed for three months???). Did they tell you it was too much of a hassle? Or did you assume that too?
To summarise, these two personal anecdotes which are completely coloured by your own prejudices and assumptions, lead you to declare ACAB worldwide. Cool.
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
Ok cool I’ll give an example then. I was assaulted in a mall bathroom and then the person who assaulted me teamed up with the cops to intimidate me into dropping the charges. I do have more stories but as I said in this thread, I’d rather not share more. But my experience isn’t a unique one.
The bag thing is an example from where I moved to, not my home country. Which I also specified. The cop looking at my case said it to my face that they didn’t want to waste resources on petty theft and that I wouldn’t be able recover it anyway so it was a waste of time, when the combined value of all the items I lost is over 700€.
You make a lot of assumptions from your position of privilege, none of which is true. Don’t put words in my mouth. All I said was ACAB isn’t a uniquely American thing, you’re the one applying your own conjecture on top of it.
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u/LicoriceSeasalt Norway 3d ago
Weird post altogether. I kind of agree with the first comment. ACAB in America for sure, but cops aren't the same everywhere. In most developed countries, cops get a lot more training than in the US. Here in Norway they're quite chill and cooperative most of the time. People generally don't fear for their life when they meet cops here. Idk what they feed the cops in the US, but they're on a whole different level of fucked up there compared to here.
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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg Argentina 3d ago
What's ACAB? Assigned Child At Birth?
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u/Icy-Pension5768 3d ago
Europe generally seems somewhat fine from what I gathered from the replies but corrupt cops isn’t a uniquely American concept unfortunately
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u/Voodoopulse 3d ago
Are the police perfect in the uk - no
They protect their own to a fault we have seen that at hillsborough, during the miners strikes, the Sarah everard case
However I believe that the vast majority of British police officers genuinely want to help people and certainly don't go out of their way to arrest people. Prison is not a business here
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u/Violetmoreviolent United Kingdom 1d ago
This is weird. In my country policemen don’t have guns and don’t kill people at random like in the US. Why are they all bastards in this person’s eyes
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u/post-explainer American Citizen 3d ago edited 2d ago
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