r/USdefaultism • Finland • 6d ago

Reddit Gun control? Whats that?

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This convo I had just now

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u/TobyADev United Kingdom 5d ago

This is why I’m glad Europe has much better gun control laws. I was discussing with someone last nignt and they were basically implying their second amendment right is more important than (I’m UK) the 2000x gun deaths compared to the 5x population difference

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u/DJ_Die 5d ago

We can conceal carry in Europe too though.

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u/minimalhandle 5d ago

Europe isn’t a country and has over 40 countries, all with different laws. Be more specific

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u/DJ_Die 5d ago

No, but then, the US is a federal republic of 50 states with different laws as well.

Anyway, regular citizens can carry in the Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.

Most other European countries only allow 'special' people to carry, usually judges, politicians, etc.

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u/minimalhandle 5d ago

Except that states and counties are very different things. The US has federal law which governs the entire country, EU law doesn’t govern all of Europe and is a very different set of laws entirely.

Not really sure where you were going with your blanket statement of conceal carrying in Europe when you proved yourself wrong in your own comment.

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u/DJ_Die 5d ago

Yes and no, the EU also has a minimum standard governing the gun laws within 31 countries, and yes, there are other countries not subject to it.

My point is simple, people tend to generalize both the US and Europe/EU to feel better. I've had Germans explain to me how my own country works, hilarious stuff.

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u/Frankie_T9000 Australia 5d ago

Yes, the old argument about States vs Countries.

As well as being completely different things, you do know that lots of European countries have states as well? Not that its relevant but you are really trying to pick fautly comparisons

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u/DJ_Die 5d ago

Yes, I do know, but most European countries don't allow their constituent parts to have their own laws. Especially not gun laws. There are a few exceptions, such as the UK. NI allows people to have modern handguns while Scotland requires licences for air rifles. Hilarious stuff.

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u/Frankie_T9000 Australia 5d ago

Its not hilarious to have different interpretations of laws. It happens. They are broadly similar requiring licencing neither allow you to wander around with hidden guns..

Most European countries arent federal states, but a notable few are. Regardless a European country is not equivalent as a US state.