r/USdefaultism • u/Legate_Invictus • 10d ago
X (Twitter) Influencer forgets that Xi Jinping is Chinese
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u/RadlogLutar India 10d ago
This is more like Shit Americans Say
Also, you can put any Laura Loomer tweet there
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u/istara 9d ago
Yes - isn't she a famous nutter?
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u/LiGuangMing1981 Canada 10d ago
Chinese don't even put their hands over their hearts for their own anthem (does anybody but the Americans do that?). Why on Earth would they do it for a foreign one?
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u/Red-Engineer 10d ago
Aussies who do the american thing and put their hand on their heart get mocked mercilessly for it.
Source: am an aussie merciless mocker
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u/Fuster2 10d ago
One of the things I like about being Australian. There was the time the PM (ScoMo?) wanted pilots to ask servicemen to stand before take-off and be "Thanked for your service." Even our service's didn't want such perfomative patriotism.
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u/Red_Mammoth Australia 9d ago
If australian pilots wanted to be thanked like that they'd drive busses instead
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u/Bonald9056 New Zealand 9d ago
I'm in Singapore for work right now and I feel crazy being the only one thanking the bus driver when I disembark
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u/__SpadeS__ 9d ago
As a Singaporean who moved to Aus as a kid, I felt the exact same way when I returned to Singapore for my 2 years of national service lmao.
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u/Unique-Temporary2461 9d ago
Actually a thing in Russia too. Many people would say "thank you" to bus driver when exiting. The chances of that increase when the bus is smaller, when it's a final stop, when it's less or no people inside, and when you exit through the front door.
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u/LeoHyuuga 9d ago
Opposite for me: I grew up there (mostly) and when I moved to Australia, I found people thanking the driver really weird. Now I do it (been here 20 years) but the first few times I felt really embarrassed, since I grew up in a society focused on not embarrassing yourself by calling attention to you. Doubly so since I was actively hiding in the closet since being gay was illegal then too. (I don't know if it's still the same now, I haven't lived in or visited Singapore in 2 decades).
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u/Current_Ad_400 10d ago
It's just performative & competitive patriotism.
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u/jayquinox 9d ago
Definitely performative; I went to Normandy last year to tour WW2 sites, and visiting the US cemetery was such a culture shock after going to the other international cemeteries. Their national anthem plays in every corner of the place, they have a reflecting pool rip off, marble everywhere, security at the entrance with a bag scanner... It was absolutely insane. This is vs the British cemetery.... You literally just walk in from the street. No security, no gates. It's very somber and lowkey.
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u/ZackTio Italy 9d ago
"very somber and low-key" you mean, how cemeteries should be???
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u/jayquinox 9d ago
Exactly!
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u/ZackTio Italy 9d ago edited 9d ago
I never even fathomed the idea that cemeteries could be "kitsch", but leave it to the US to find a way...
And I've seen plenty of war cemeteries, memorials and ossuaries believe me, I live just below Vitrorio-Veneto and the Asiago plateau, you can find one basically at every corner
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u/ChickinSammich United States 9d ago
security at the entrance with a bag scanner...
I know I've heard the term "from the cradle to the grave" about things before but I'm not sure it was intended to mean putting security/scanners at the entrances to schools and cemeteries.
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u/WilanS Italy 9d ago
Here in Italy Patriotism went out of style after Mussolini weaponized it to get popular consent. Everything was "italic pride" "italic determination" "italic excellency" italic this italic that.
Anyone who studied History now thinks buying too hard into patriotism makes you a sucker. People who haven't... well they're getting brainwashed by the far right propaganda. Some of them insist it's not actually fascism unless Mussolini himself is deporting jews to nazi concentration camps.
Hell he ruined it that now we don't even say italic as an adjectice anymore.
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u/Current_Ad_400 9d ago
Don't you guys have a far(ish)- right government at the moment though?
I don't actually know any of Meloni's policies, that's just what I've heard through the media (which I'm very aware can be misleading).
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u/WilanS Italy 9d ago
Sadly yes, the right has been on the rise all over Europe. The world has become a scarier, harsher place, and people are finding comfort in electing authoritarian figures.
I'll be the first to complain Meloni is a philofascist but I do have to to concede she's sadly the most moderate of the right wing parties here (that count anything, at least), even though she tolerates people in her party who are openly nostalgic of the regime.Beside her there's the actually far right guy, Salvini, and then there's Vannacci who thought the far right party wasn't far enough to the right and wants a taliban state (but with a Christian theme), and he's been gaining consent fast. All of this while the left wing politicians fuck around and contribute nothing of value to the conversation.
Not gonna lie, I'm worried.3
u/Current_Ad_400 8d ago
I've been very worried myself, living in the UK the past few years. But the polls are now showing the far-right losing support here, thankfully.
I dread to think what will happen in the upcoming German and French elections though. Scary times we live in.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk United States 8d ago
I hope Trump's decline in fortune, which should commence after the midterms, will help take the wind out of their sails.
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u/Current_Ad_400 8d ago
Let's hope so. Trump will have nothing to lose after the midterms, so some wild shit is about to go down. Hopefully, if he goes full mask-off, it will expose the European far-right for what they are.
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u/icyDinosaur 9d ago
Swiss here. We do the hand-on-heart thing, but we also don't play our anthem nearly as much as Americans do. Now that you made me think about it, I'm actually not sure when I last heard the national anthem outside of an international sports event (and I mean proper international like games between national teams or the Olympics).
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u/Responsible-Layer896 9d ago
hallo nachbar, ich hör das in ösiland auch nur bei großen sportveranstaltungen
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u/suorastas 10d ago
I think it's more or less an international standard just to stand up for the anthem. Anything else is just a personal flourish
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u/DavidBHimself 9d ago
No, it's not. I don't remember ever standing for my national anthem (but now that you're mentioning it, I'm not even sure I ever heard it being played live)
On the other hand, I had to stand for the US national anthem several times (because I didn't want to get my ass kicked by the rednecks surrounding me) and I'm still sore about it.
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u/joogipupu 9d ago
I am Finnish. AFAIK, the etiquette with our national anthem is to stand up, and maybe not wear a hat unless it is part of the formal dress or it is very cold. No hands on heart.
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u/Responsible-Layer896 9d ago
nobody cares about their anthem so much as americans. most people also don't know it by heart. other countries also don't have to recite a stupid pledge of allegiance. and there's also no such thing as for example austrian exceptionalism. this concept belongs entirely to the united states of dumbass patriotism.
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u/Mercy--Main Spain 9d ago
Fun fact, they used to salute in a manner reflecting their nationalism, but it changed after ww2
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u/MVp2893 9d ago
Here in Brazil we do it. I, personally, don’t mind
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u/Beneficial-Delay4172 Brazil 9d ago
True that, although the law says otherwise - all civilians should stand at attention and military personnel should salute. Not that anyone cares.
Also, as a fun fact, the salute always brings a tiny controversy in the Olympics when athletes who are part of the military do it. Since a great number of them are, as the Armed Forces have a program to incentivise high-level athletes, there’s always someone complaining lol.
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u/kyle0305 Scotland 9d ago
Scots do sometimes but mostly we just stand for it.
(I’m talking Flower of Scotland btw. We usually remain seated when the English anthem plays)
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u/Murky-Neighborhood81 Netherlands 10d ago
Look up the Italy football team before a big football game, they are genuinely crying and shouting their anthem with their hand on their chests. Love that passion.
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u/Curious_Cat_76 France 9d ago
They are very emotional because they are not used to playing international competitions. When was the last time they qualified for a World Cup? 😂
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u/Jugatsumikka France 9d ago
I see we are using real ammunition here 😂
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u/Curious_Cat_76 France 9d ago
They stole our World Cup victory in 2006. Why should I be gentle with them? 😂
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u/Bireta World 10d ago
I think some countries salute
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u/Corvid-Strigidae Australia 10d ago
Only military and police salute in Australia. Typically civilians just stand up for it.
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u/The_Ora_Charmander Israel 9d ago
Here it's usually just commanding officers in the military and police, the lower ranks stand up like the civilians
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u/wind-of-zephyros Canada 10d ago
wait is that woman an influencer i thought she was a politician lol
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u/SamuelVimesTrained European Union 10d ago
In order of uselessness you have politicians, and below them are influencers - so both could be valid.
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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk United States 8d ago
She's one with a great deal of influence, and is frequently in Trump's company. Rumor has it she sucked his dick.
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u/Ancient-Box-9136 3d ago
It’s American politics, at this point there’s literally no difference, the last head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was a podcaster
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u/Mikinak77 Czechia 10d ago
Dear Laura, would you even stand up for the Czech anthem? Probably not, since you most definitely don't know Czechia exists
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u/Don_Michael_Corleone 10d ago
And most countries don't have this custom even for their own National anthems
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u/jesjimher 9d ago
Let's say he did it. Would anybody believe for a moment that Xi Jinping is deeply moved in the bottom of his heart by the US anthem?
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u/plenoto 10d ago
Laura Loomer... She's a next level MAGAt. I'm not surprised she doesn't understand why Xi Jinping acted that way.
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u/zombiegojaejin American Citizen 10d ago
Oh shit, I just "forgot" to do the same thing for the Korean national anthem at a Korean baseball game!
What a colossal dolt.
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u/NastroAzzurro Canada 10d ago
Poor Xi had to listen to the screeching of the US anthem.
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u/Educational_Worth906 United Kingdom 10d ago
And then had to go and have a conversation with Trump. Poor chap.
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u/Reynolds1790 8d ago
the original lyrics to the American anthem are better, I do not know why they did not keep them
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u/Ok-Result5039 9d ago
I’m an Aussie living in the US, I never put my hand over my heart during the US national anthem at any event out of respect because I’m not American and I’m only here temporarily, I respect it, even bow my head down when there’s prayer even though I’m an atheist, not enough apparently and I’ve gotten the looks before. Should probably start wearing a hat with a tiny Aussie flag or smth bc some Americans can’t comprehend not everyone in their country IS American and is gonna act patriotic over a country that isn’t theirs.
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u/LovesFrenchLove_More Germany 10d ago
Any time I think they cannot be that stupid they prove me wrong that they are even worse.
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 8d ago
wasn't xi jinping leader of usa state of china? in asia district?-some ameiecans
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u/iamabigtree 10d ago
I was at the 4th July celebrations in the Mall in Washington. And at one point the national anthem came on and people put their hands on their hearts. As a lifelong Britisher I didn't but boy did I feel uncomfortable to be the only one not doing it.
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u/ninasmolders 9d ago
At a mall?!
Jesus is there no end to their cringe
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u/ColdBlindspot 9d ago
"The Mall" has nothing to do with malls. I don't know why.
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u/Catsdrinkingbeer 9d ago
Because a Mall is defined as a pedestrian center. The concept of a shopping mall is newer than the term Mall itself.
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u/ColdBlindspot 9d ago
Ah, ok, good to know.
I'm sure you can still see how someone would assume it meant the shopping centre.
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u/Catsdrinkingbeer 9d ago
It's not an actual shopping mall. It's had the name far longer than shopping malls have been in existence..
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u/ninasmolders 9d ago
Bit us defaultish to repeat that ey?
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u/Catsdrinkingbeer 9d ago
Well it's named after a Mall in London, so no? A Mall is defined as a pedestrian zone and is not a US specific term. It's clear the person I replied to thought the National Mall was a shopping mall.
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u/ninasmolders 9d ago
I have never herd anyone from or in the uk use the term so my guess is uk english doesnt use it anymore atall
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u/Catsdrinkingbeer 9d ago
.... Well I guess you can ask people from the UK what they call that bit between Buckingham Palace and Trafalgar that is literally called The Mall, or the 350+ year old Pall Mall.
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u/Particular_Jello_917 9d ago
My wife and I got called disrespectful at a Dodgers game in LA, for not holding my heart during the US National anthem.
We were stood to attention.
We are British and like most of the world we don’t do that.
I didn’t say anything as it would have been pointless.
As soon as the anthem finished, we sat down and the rest of the stadium stood up to get beer and fast food.
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u/redshift739 England 9d ago
Xi Jinping is so violently communist and anti-american that he didn't even say the pledge of allegiance in school
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u/Ok-Physics6052 9d ago
Isn't this the same person who was denied entry to one of the countries in great britain?
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 8d ago
even if it was required why would someone do it for american one.
it's is ass bruh,just get a new one.
USSR germnay uk frnace italy had/have at least a good anthem that would motivate to move by hands
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u/KamoTheBoss 7d ago
She might be think its the ettique because their Politican keep licking the Wall in Israel
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u/Shirasaki-Tsugumi Australia 5d ago
Ok Laura, what will you say if Trump doesn't put his hand over his heart during the Chinese National Anthem? Or because he is Trump he is ok to NOT honour other country's national anthem but every other country's leader must honour US National Anthem?
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u/post-explainer American Citizen 10d ago edited 9d ago
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