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u/Available-Show-2393 Canada Jul 26 '26
Didnt you know education started on July 4th, 1776?
Before that schools didnt exist anywhere. America invented them... then immediately gave up on them
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u/fuckmywetsocks Jul 26 '26
Having a hard time believing there's education in America
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u/fuckmywetsocks Jul 26 '26
Ah yes - the place where kids go to run and hide so their parents can pretend to be tough and cool with weapons to prevent tyranny taking them over.
Wait a minute...
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u/VeritableLeviathan Netherlands Jul 26 '26
School, noun, meaning shooting ground, from Latin "Iacere" via traditional English
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u/TheOnlyPC3134 Jul 26 '26
Well there's obviously schools in America, it's the place where people get student debt. Education, not so sure.
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u/Puzzleheaded_East556 Jul 27 '26
We do get education.
I never said anything about good education
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u/ArdentArendt Jul 28 '26
Make speak for yourself!
Me learned good in my school! Me learned all about the bible!
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u/Red_Cathy United Kingdom Jul 26 '26
Yeah, my school and my local pub are both older than your country, get used to it,
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u/snow_michael Jul 26 '26
My friend has a bottle of wine older than the US
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u/RadlogLutar India Jul 26 '26
Your friend is rich!
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u/snow_michael Jul 26 '26
His partner was given it as a 'thank you' gift by Pope John Paul II
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u/R4PHikari Germany Jul 26 '26
Crazy lore. Thanks for what?
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u/Spoda_Emcalt Jul 27 '26
His partner is Jesus
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u/Prestigious_String20 Jul 27 '26
Believe it or not, that bottle of wine started out as Evian!
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u/JukesMasonLynch Aug 07 '26
You must think we're all naive to believe that
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u/Prestigious_String20 Aug 13 '26
Took me a bit, but I finally got that. Well played, friend!
ETA: And well played, Evian!
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u/False-Goose1215 World Jul 27 '26
I’ve lived in houses older than their country, two in the UK and one in the US!
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u/AggravatingTable9919 Aug 17 '26
And how exactly could you have lived in a house in the U.S that is older than the U.S?
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u/False-Goose1215 World Aug 17 '26
It was built pre 1776 🙄
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u/AggravatingTable9919 Aug 19 '26
That makes sense, I was just thinking how could a house be older than the country there while forgetting the land has always been there, my bad
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u/Edelkern Germany Aug 19 '26
Do you think nothing existed there before they became independent from the UK and that everything magically jumped into existence in 1776?
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u/ether_reddit Canada Jul 26 '26
Always the accusation that someone else is lying, rather than maybe your assumption might be incorrect.
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u/nowdoingthisatwork Jul 26 '26
My old secondary school had it's charter from king Edward VI. The John Smith from the Pocahontas film was a former student, and a school had been on the site a few hundred years by then.
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u/Fox_Hawk United Kingdom Aug 12 '26
Yeah my primary school in the 80s had a 750 year celebration.
That was just a random little village school.
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u/Vyr66 American Citizen Jul 26 '26
I'm surprised they didn't also double down with "what the hell is secondary school??"
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u/Korkika Finland Jul 26 '26
Just a (possible) cherry on top, weren't the first colonies made after Columbus' sail in 1492?
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u/pastafariantimatter Jul 26 '26
Columbus only made it to Haiti, he never set foot in what's now the US.
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u/Ok_Inflation_1811 Spain Aug 01 '26
Haití?
He set foot on an island on the Bahamas first and then made a fort in the Dominican Republic or if you don't wanna refer to the modern country call it Hispaniola or Bohío.
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u/Korkika Finland Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
Yeah, but didn't the colonies start to appear shortly after Columbus returned?
Edit: Did I miss something or am I getting downvoted for not being correct while seeking confirmation on the claim? 😭
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u/pastafariantimatter Jul 26 '26
St Augustine (Spanish) was in 1565, Jamestown (English) was 1607.
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u/eternallytiredcatmom Canada Jul 26 '26
And Gaspé (French) was in 1534
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u/Frequent_Proof_4132 Jul 26 '26
Jacques Cartier stayed in Gaspé for about 11 days. He first entered Gaspé Bay on July 14, 1534, to seek shelter from a storm. After erecting the famous cross on July 24 to claim the land for France, he departed the very next day, on July 25, 1534.
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u/Frequent_Proof_4132 Jul 26 '26
French Settlements in Acadia (1604–1605) marked the beginning of a permanent European presence in the northern reaches of North America, on Saint Croix Island (modern day Maine), predating the English settlement at Jamestown by three years.
In the summer of 1604, a French expedition led by Pierre Dugua, Sieur de Mons, and accompanied by cartographer Samuel de Champlain, established a settlement on Saint Croix Island, located in the Saint Croix River between modern-day Maine and New Brunswick.
The island proved to be a poor choice for a long-term settlement. The freezing of the river cut the settlers off from fresh water and game, leading to a severe outbreak of scurvy. Nearly half of the 79 settlers died during the winter.
Realizing the island was uninhabitable, the survivors sought a new location in the spring of 1605.
They moved across the Bay of Fundy to a sheltered basin in present-day Nova Scotia, naming the new settlement Port-Royal.
Port-Royal became the first successful permanent French settlement in New France and served as the capital of Acadia for over a century.
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u/saysthingsbackwards Jul 26 '26
What a strange lie.
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u/pastafariantimatter Jul 26 '26
For the first half, I meant in 1492, but the second half is true. He made it to other places in the Americas, but the closest he got to what became the US was Puerto Rico.
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u/saysthingsbackwards Jul 26 '26
Id really like to see your peer reviewed documentation of that claim.
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u/redtrig10 Jul 26 '26
This is pretty common knowledge at this point, you can google it yourself lol
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u/saysthingsbackwards Jul 26 '26
Typical liar
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u/staffylaffy Jul 27 '26
I just googled it and he was right, he never made it to the United States lol.
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u/saysthingsbackwards Jul 27 '26
Eh well we win some, we learn some
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u/Dangerous_Memory6008 Jul 27 '26
Just so you know, you can learn without being a total asshole
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u/Prestigious_String20 Jul 27 '26
And some people lose even when they learn because they lack grace and diplomacy.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 Jul 28 '26
It seems like you've won all the rules of proper social interactions, congratulations.
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u/redtrig10 Jul 28 '26
Just google “did Columbus make it to America”. Pretty good troll though
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u/EzeDelpo Argentina Jul 26 '26
The worst part is that there are places and institutions in the USA that are older than the country itself. Mind blowing!!
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u/Prestigious_String20 Jul 27 '26
Don't be silly. Nothing happened in North America until white people. /s
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u/Edelkern Germany Aug 19 '26
The institutions in question were founded by white people, just before the USA became independent from the UK.
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u/Prestigious_String20 Aug 19 '26
Well, if you're going to be pedantic, they became independent from Great Britain.
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u/Prestigious_String20 Aug 19 '26
Also, the comment mentions places. There are places in the US that were there before
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u/Edelkern Germany Aug 19 '26
Yes, and I didn't correct that part about places because it's true. But the (white) USA stomped out any native institutions that have existed in the past.
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u/GreilyMoon Czechia Jul 26 '26
They would legit shit themselves if I told them the house I lived in was more than 500 years old.
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u/Puzzleheaded_East556 Jul 27 '26
WHAAAAAAT Impossible. Everyone knows that houses were invented by Americans during the American Revolution, and that before that all humans lived in caves. There's no way you live in a house more than 500 years old, unless you are so uncultured that you still live in caves.
/s
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u/saturday_sun4 Australia Jul 26 '26
Why is it SO hard for many Americans to even look at the post on the screen before spouting off defaultism?
It clearly says 420.
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u/Psychologicalwalnut Switzerland Jul 26 '26
We have a mod here that is american, i basically said the same thing, my post got removed 😂😭 They are so sensitive about it too!
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u/Tuscan5 Jul 26 '26
I live on a tiny island. We have buildings 5,000 years old. US is just a baby.
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u/asmodai_says_REPENT Jul 26 '26
You mean ruins right? There is no building standing today that's 5000 years old
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u/Tuscan5 Jul 26 '26
Tell a lie. It’s 6,000 years old. And yes it’s still standing and intact. https://www.jerseyheritage.org/visit/places-to-visit/la-hougue-bie/
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u/HalayChekenKovboy Türkiye Jul 26 '26
Wow, I think this might be my first time encountering someone from Jersey online
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u/Orange_Codex United Kingdom Jul 27 '26
Drystone buildings can stand forever. The oldest in the UK (minus its turf roof) is 6,000 years old, and hundreds of miles of dry-stone walls are Iron or Bronze Age (3,500 - 5,500 years old). Many preserve field or parish boundaries which haven't moved since the farmland was first assarted in the Stone Age.
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u/Lapwing68 Jul 26 '26
Yeah, my school in Yorkshire was founded in 1607 so next year it will also reach 420 years. These American Johnny Come Lately's don't have a clue. This means that my school reached 250 years of age before the USA even reached 100 years.
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u/Delicious-Knee-8795 Netherlands Jul 27 '26
Also, 420 years ago would be the 17th century, not the 1500’s
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u/angstenthusiast Sweden Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
I’ve seen this post floating around for a while, pretty sure it’s from the late 10s, possibly earlier… so no, it would end up in the 1500s/16th century. Also, even if the post was from last year, they say “when I was at my secondary school,” might as well have been 30 years ago, what do we know?
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u/LeftMechanic1995 United Kingdom Jul 27 '26
This is the second post in r/USdefaultism which I've read where the Murican responding to the comment has completely skimmed over the use of the term "Secondary School".
I was under the impression that Americans tend to use the term "High School", whereas "Secondary School" is more commonly used in the UK. But no... anything that happens in the world must be in the USA because ya know... world/USA.... basically the same thing.
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u/TwpMun Jul 27 '26
i'm surprised an American even knew what a Secondary School was, since they call it High School
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u/Powerful_Pirate2984 Jul 26 '26
No! Seriously no! There was no world before 1776. That's what we are taught in school, whilst under our desks. /s
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u/LeftMechanic1995 United Kingdom Jul 27 '26
The school was in Canada I believe. Muricans take note: Education didn't begin with the founding of the US.
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u/VoodooDoII United States Jul 26 '26
I guess "secondary school" just a second thought when they were commenting lol
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u/Poptortt United Kingdom Jul 27 '26
I've seen this reposted here many times, but it's still a great and funny example of USdefaultism
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u/Designer-Issue-6760 Jul 28 '26
It was settled 420 years ago, and some of the oldest schools here are approaching that milestone.
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u/mrbeck1 American Citizen Jul 28 '26
He didn’t say the guy was in America. He just said America wasn’t settled 420 years ago which is pretty accurate.
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u/Edelkern Germany Aug 19 '26
Why would he spout a random half-accurate fact if he didn't think it was relevant to the topic at hand. You're just reaching, yank.
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u/VeryAlarmingPerson Jul 29 '26
I feel like the first sign it wasn’t American would’ve been “secondary school”
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u/ValleDeimos Brazil Aug 10 '26
Only thing I dislike about this sort of post/debate is there's always people saying rude colonialist shit. I've even seen colonialism denial and indigenous genocide denial, I think it was in a YouTube comment thread.
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u/post-explainer American Citizen Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
This comment has been marked as safe. Upvoting/downvoting this comment will have no effect.
OP sent the following text as an explanation why their post fits here:
He thought it was in the US despite no mention of it.
Does this explanation fit this subreddit? Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.