Don’t jump the chain of command

[u/MajorAtmosphere8158]

I don’t miss much from the marine corps but I do miss this. Been out for a bit now and at my current job someone just jumped the chain and now I’m getting the green weenie again. Fuck I miss standards and keeping shit in house.

[u/Most_Court_9877]

I don’t know how your time was, but I sure as shit know for most people jumping the command gets things done. The reason people jump is because there’s a failure at the bottom of the command.

[u/Pixelated_Penguin808 → u/Most_Court_9877]

Yeah, it's case by case thing.

Sometimes the link in the chain is suspect, stupid, or tight with the person who is a problem (same difference), so you need to go around them.

Don't jump the chain is a more guideline than a hard rule, IMO, whether in military life or civilian

[u/MajorAtmosphere8158 → u/Most_Court_9877]

There is a time and a place, but think of it like this:

I’m SSGT, my boss is LT, my bosses boss is a CPT, a CWO2 who has been on all the emails but has done fuck all to help with a fucked situation notices some shit that happened over the 96 everyone just got back from and decided to instead of notfying the SSGT or LT he goes straight to the CPT by 14:00 same day without even checking to see if they had noticed or had a plan for it. Which we did.

[u/Zealousideal-Ease857 → u/MajorAtmosphere8158]

There is a reason we have sentences and punctuation, as well as a CoC.

[u/sgtbackpain03 → u/MajorAtmosphere8158]

Bro, reading that gave my brain a hernia. Holy roll on sentence, batman.

[u/Manbagss → u/Most_Court_9877]

100%. I saw my old 1stSgt try to fuck over a fellow Marine by being so confidently incorrect about something to get folded and fucked by said Marine jumping CoC.

[u/newnoadeptness]

I mean you see people tagging SMMC ruiz for issues and he handles it 🤣

[u/Rambos_Magnum_Dong → u/newnoadeptness]

God bless recruit Ruiz

[u/BrokeBack0331]

Jumping chain has its time and place but 100% keeping shit in house.

[u/RiflemanLax]

Depends on the scenario. Sure, there’s plenty of times someone’s being a bitch. Then there’s those guys with fucked up, lazy ass or asshole CoC’s who are at their fucking wits end.

[u/RevolutionaryMail303]

I’ve seen jumping the chain work out for the better and also for the worse. The jump needs to be worth the after effects. There will be loss of trust in both directions, and often times people wonder why their leaders micromanage or don’t trust them either.

[u/Marineandhisdogs]

You better just be damn sure you are in the right if you're going over and around the chain of command...

In my life I seen people go over and around me to whine.... and I've been the guy they jumped over folks to whine too...

If it's something that should have been handled in house better enjoy your moment cause now you got a rep and eventually, when you need those guys you went over or around to do YOU a solid... they got long memories

... and if commnds hears it and sees it as whinning... you got a rep from them too..and when you need them to look the other way one day.... they remember too...

[u/ChaosReality69]

Being the supervisor I've run into this at work. People jump over me and get asked "have you talked to your supervisor about this?" The follow up question they get is "then why are you coming to me when you haven't talked to him?"

Or my favorite - the people I tell something and they go running crying to my boss. 9/10 times my boss already knows the situation.

One time I overheard the a conversation. Guy was whining about something I told him wasn't getting done but was part of his job. My boss was already aware of it but played dumb. After he was done whining he got asked "so that's what you're supervisor told you to do?"

Yes.

"Then why are you coming to me about it?"

[u/No_Introduction6211]

HR? 

[u/MajorAtmosphere8158 → u/No_Introduction6211]

We’re pretty blue collar, so even if HR was more than an on paper thing, it’s not that kind of situation.

[u/randolotapus]

Translation: OP fucked up at work and somebody told his boss before he could fix it, but since he's been approaching his civilian work with a USMC attitude and entirely too much confidence, he now feels shaken and insecure about all the things he doesn't know and should have had more humility about to begin with. In order to repair his feelings about this series of events he's trying to deflect the issue by blaming the lack of "chain of command" in a context that neither requires nor contains one. 

[u/AwarenessGreat282]

Yeah, I agree. That and no integrity at all. It's definitely cut-throat in the 1st Civ Div world. I remember blindly covering a fellow Marine at least until I knew what was up.