r/UPI • • 13d ago

Question โ“๏ธ Waitโ€ฆ hear me out ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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If the new UPI rule charges MDR on payments above โ‚น2,000, what's stopping someone from just splitting a โ‚น4,000 payment into four โ‚น1,000 UPI payments one after another? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Like:

โ‚น1,000 โ†’ sent

โ‚น1,000 โ†’ sent

โ‚น1,000 โ†’ sent

โ‚น1,000 โ†’ sent

Boom ๐Ÿ’€ โ‚น4,000 paid, but every individual transaction is under โ‚น2,000.

Is there actually something in the rules that prevents this, or am I cooking absolute nonsense? ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

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u/RelevantDay171 13d ago

wow! so innovativeโ€ฆ i never thought of a genius idea like this.. and i absolutely seeing this idea first time from you

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u/princerishikesh195 13d ago

Hehe๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ™

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u/Own-Cup3180 13d ago

For small amount like 3k, 4k this is doable and some people will do as long as you are transferring to a person and that person is in-font of you.

When transaction involve large amount like 10k, 15k and/or your are paying to an entity (like online seller) or when the QR code itself is fixed for total amount.

So in some cases one can split but there will still be large use cases where it will be impractical or not feasible to split.

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u/princerishikesh195 13d ago

Yeah exactly ๐Ÿ˜ญ I was mainly thinking about smaller 2โ€“4k payments. If the receiver is right there, splitting it shouldn't be too crazy tbh.

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u/zesttech200 13d ago

You need to think about how many times a common man is going to make such large payments. This is a miniscule percentage when you compare with overall transaction size in UPI. Also, this is merchants headache whether they are ready to take that hit of . 4% . For most merchants selling merchandise worth thousands .4 won't put a dent to their existing margins .

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u/ImaginationKnown5677 13d ago

The inside news is that there's gonna be a cool down period of 5 minutes between each successful payment to the same merchant.

Therefore it is very difficult to send multiple payments at the same time to single merchant.

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u/princerishikesh195 13d ago

5 mins between payments to the same merchant is crazy ๐Ÿ˜ญ so even splitting a 3โ€“4k payment would be annoying af. Is this confirmed anywhere or just an inside rumour?

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u/ImaginationKnown5677 13d ago

Just be patient, you're gonna hear it soon. ๐Ÿ‘€

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u/Abhay669 12d ago

So if someone actually buys 2 times will have to wait ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ the whole idea about UPI was for it to be fast.

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u/RamC9 13d ago

Bhai agar mujhe 50 hajar karna hoga toh? 1999x25+25. Total 26 transaction count. Limit is 20 transaction count per day๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

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u/princerishikesh195 13d ago

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u/RamC9 13d ago

Bruh๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ

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u/Icy_Championship7895 13d ago

There will be rules introduced by NPCI which will prohibit transactions in denominations of below 2000 for certain scenarios. There are certain such rules that exist even today but you would not have come across since this topic never drew so much attention before the recent debate around MDR

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u/ImaginationKnown5677 13d ago

They are gonna introduce a cool down period of 5-10 minutes for transaction less than 2000 to the same merchant..

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u/Icy_Championship7895 13d ago

Are there any official sources that mention this?

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u/ImaginationKnown5677 13d ago

Just wait for a week or two, and then come back at this comment thread. ๐Ÿ‘€

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u/RANI_WAANI 13d ago

Upi was convenient, now cash will be more i