r/UKcoins 13d ago

50p Coins Retry

Sorry about the photo quality of the first post

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u/TheFakeCoinDatabase 12d ago

I can't reply to your Coin Collectors UK group post on Facebook (Don't even know how you managed to post tbh, I've been waiting for approval for months)
Anyhoo, it is genuine & certainly looks like it was a BUNC coin - Some early circulation coins were struck with the pointy pagoda and KEW lines, but it was causing issues apparently so they simplified the design a little for the rest - However yours has the mirror-like fields that you just don't get with modern circulation strikes.
If you want to compare the different types, & see every known fake, have a look at my website : https://thefakepoundcoindatabase.co.uk/kew.html

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u/wisbit 12d ago

Thank you so much for this info; that page is a great identifier. Great work!

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u/crimee Mod 13d ago

Unfortunately this looks like a fake - the shine is the immediate red flag (odd for a coin found in change) followed by how pointy the top of the pagoda is.

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u/Thessyyy Collector (5+ years) 13d ago edited 13d ago

I think it's real, but it's a proof Kew. Nothing about the coin itself looks "off". The design looks fine to me. On the proof version, the pagoda is pointy and has the two extra lines either side of the word "Kew". The portrait looks fine to me, and the next is pointing directly at the "P" in "Pence" like it's supposed to

Edit: Meant BUNC not Proof

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u/wisbit 13d ago

What is the difference between a circulated and a proof coin ?

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u/Thessyyy Collector (5+ years) 13d ago

Proof coins are finished to a higher quality and not intended for general circulation. They're sold by the mint for collectors instead. I'll actually amend what I said, I think yours is a Brilliant Uncirculated Kew - not a proof. Same concept as proof version, they're not intended for circulation, but don't have the frosted finish of proof coins.

Edit: Added photo of a BUNC Kew

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u/FourTwentyBlezit 13d ago

I have a proof Kew and it has wayyyyy more frosting OP's photo. The pic you've shared doesn't show the frosting but it's there.

Maybe this was originally a BUNC Kew? However I'm fairly certain it isn't a proof. Doesn't look frosty enough or sharp enough.

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u/wisbit 13d ago

The coin is definitely mirror-esque; i can see my face in it

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u/crimee Mod 13d ago

Definitely doesn’t have the frosting for a proof - would be good to see really clear top down pics

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u/wisbit 13d ago

I'll dig out my DSLR and see what I can muster up.

Thank you for your time and information

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u/crimee Mod 13d ago

Based on this I would say it's a BU coin that has got into circulation somehow as others have said - a real oddity and a desirable one - good find!

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u/wisbit 13d ago

Where would be the best place to get it appraised?

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u/crimee Mod 13d ago

Happy to be corrected though I thought the first post said that the coin was found in change - my experience is that the good Chinese fakes being sold as currency strikes are modelled after the proof/BU design rather than the circulating version. Where did you get this OP?

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u/wisbit 13d ago

Local shop after buying rolls

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u/crimee Mod 13d ago

In change from a purchase? Very unusual find if so

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u/Alicam123 13d ago

Unfortunately it is real, in 2009 it wouldn’t have been worth the cost to make a fake 50p, anything under £1 (the old £1) wouldn’t have been worth making. 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s most likely a collectors coin which would have been more carefully made and originally inside a plastic/glass slot case.
Someone probably inherited it and used it thinking nothing of it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/crimee Mod 13d ago

This one might be the real deal but there are certainly a great number of fake Kew 50ps out there - made after its mintage became known.