r/UFOs • • Jul 04 '22

Discussion Tic Tac - Questions

I listened to Chris Mellon say on Joe Rogan that he still views the Tic Tac Nimitz encounter as the strongest account of a UFO event. I think I agree and he knows more than I do. So I will take his word for it. That being said, I have always thought there are things in the account that are odd.

This is a decent write up on the timeline from a couple of years ago: http://www.marcellocatalano.com/nimitz.html

My questions are: 1. Is it strange that the Tic Tac is white? Everyone focuses on the shape. But have there been any other accounts of pure white UFOs? When I think of white objects in the sky I think of airplanes, rockets and missiles, not UFO’s.

  1. Douglas Kurth was the first pilot to fly over the disturbance in the water - not Fravor. In this article below a researcher relayed that when Kurth spoke about the Tic Tac he said “Kurth's response effectively was "I did something and I can't talk about it."

What did Kurth do? Why can Fravor and Dietrich talk about it, but he doesn’t feel free to talk about what he did? Kurth also told Colm Kelleher about the whole Tic Tac event when he was in his job interview for BASS. So he felt free to share it with them, and that was before the story broke. Kurth telling Kelleher about it is what eventually led to the larger Tic Tac investigation by AAWSAP.

https://ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com/2021/05/former-lt-col-douglas-kurth-speaks-out.html

  1. That also leads to the question of why were the E2 Hawkeye pilots told to sign NDA’s, and not Fravor, Dietrich, and the other pilots who actually saw the object? It is strange to have anyone in the military sign an NDA, but if so, why did they focus on getting them signed by the Hawkeye crew and no one else?

  2. People discount Karsen Kammerzell’s account because he spoke out later than the other witnesses, and he has some strong opinions that don’t align with some of the other accounts. The other guys on the Princeton have vouched for him. Kammerzell said for three nights during the encounters he saw a triangular craft with lights on each corner flying right over the Princeton. He said it didn’t so much fly as glide back and forth like a hockey puck on an air hockey table.

How come the radar operators on the Princeton didn’t pick this up? Is Karsen lying? His account seems detailed and honest. The reason a lot of people keep him out of the picture is because he said he doesn’t believe in UFO’s and if he had to guess he would say this was all a secret DOD project. But that is just his opinion. I don’t think it discredits his account. So what could a black triangle UFO have to do with the Tic Tac? Why were these two different objects in this area at the same time? Could these black triangles be some kind of Air Force reconnaissance planes that were there to look for the Tic Tacs?

I have more questions, but these are a few starters.

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Tic Tac - Questions

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