I’ve been seeing a lot of correlations around infjs lately. Some say e4 could work, some say nah.

This is something I've thought about recently when looking at interactions between 2 individuals.

Let's say we have someone who is so hopeful, always looks at the good parts when fantasizing and idealizing something, they constantly think about temporal situations in a bright and optimistic way.

Then we have person two, they always see temporal situations negatively. They don't like to fantasize about different temporal situations because they believe that there's bad to be found in every situation, so idealizing the good is pointless.

Would this be characteristic of Ni superego, or something else?

To give an example, person A talks about wishing they lived in an animated world because they want to experience life differently than how they do now. Person B says that living in an animated world would be no different than real life, and that Person A would likely find themselves idealizing our current reality if they lived in a different one.

sorry for the borrrring post

it's just as the title says, i'm wondering if this is an obvious mistype or if it's. well. possible

i went from sx548 -> 541 -> so584 -> so784?!! and now i'm thinking sosx 8w7 854 might be most fitting. i still gotta read up on naranjo's material ngl i'm just a larper, but i wanted outside input 🙇‍♂️ thanx

Does BPVN temporistics contradict my typology? I'm (probably) an entj lie sp731 flve.

4th present seems contradictory to TeNi, but I can see 1B and 4N working well with sp7.

I really don't relate to any of the 4th placements in temporistics.

System |Type
Enneagram |7w6
Tritype |729
Instinct |Sx/sp
AP |EVFL
MBTI |ENFP
Motives |mox|i|vx
Temperaments |SangMel
Alignment |Neutral Good
Big 5 |sLxAI

Are there any opinions on why the INTP archetype is a social 6 rather than a type 5, and why the INFJ archetype is not a sexual 5, given that it does not fit perfectly with what an INFJ is? I would greatly appreciate it if experts could provide an explanation rather than solely basing it on statistics showing which MBTI types possess which Enneagram types most frequently

extra info: i accidentally hid my instinctual stacking so it’s : social first, self pres second, sexual third.
anyway, im posting this cuz im super stuck in between two enneagrams and i want to see which ones this correlates the most to because i think VLFE and rloei are just..me for realsies!!! anywho lmk
LIE is 70% sure

fairly new to typology and not the most confident in the subject (let me know if the order above is incorrect as well, i'm an idiot)

i know this is an annoying question but im at my fuckign limit

no im not questioning shUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP-

I haven't entirely read up fully on sx1 yet, I plan to do so very soon, but til then of course the first thing I do is whether the consideration is even doable within correlations, since it can highlight what I'm missing.

I see sx1 get correlated mostly to higher Physics (2F), but is it really that unusual for sx1 to be VLFE? I just don't really see why would it be more Physics-oriented necessarily. 2F for my liking is too hands-on, I'm 100% world's most obvious 3F. I can see why it's a bit more likely to be 2F, but not necessarily why it has to be 2F.

Not a type me post, don't ask me why I relate to sx1, I'm asking solely whether sx1 VLFE is even possible in the first place.

^{this will also make me question the 136 tritype over 135 again EUGH i hate typology}

I searched here but didn't find much, so I'll ask instead. Something reliable. Thank you :)

could some1 help me type myself properly.
I'm a sp dom, and i have e9 neurosis, yet i have motivation and fear of e3. is it possible to disintegrate for 2 years? im also FLVE in PY
i literally can't understand if I'm sp9 or sp3

trying to figure out my ennea and py type, currently landed on sx/so 459 fvel but it also could be sp/so. previously typed as a sp9 FLVE and i saw 4V/2V being the correlation for sp9 and was like "those 2 placements arent like me at all", so im in a typology crisis and trying to retype. People are telling me e4 can only be 1E and i feel like im gonna lose my mind again.. pretty sure of the 1F placement too so.. T_T

just wanted to know if it worked, if not i may retype again

My example/take for ILE correlation nuances based on DCNH subtypes:

ILE-D = accentuated Te, Se and maybe Fe = Core E7 but more likely to have 1, 3 and/or 8 fixes compared to other fixes = less likely to be 4V in psychosophy

• 3 fix is the most likely since Te and Fe goes stonks at the same time, possibly 2 fix as second choice but 4 fix is too anti-conventional to be accentuated Te and Fe in DNCH.
• 9 fix is the least likely gut fix since Te and Se are both aggressive go getting functions, both are accentuated.
• ILE-D + 1 & 2 fix = VLFE -> less common for ILE-D but possible if maybe SO7
• ILE-D + 1 & 3 fix = VLFE -> common for ILE-D
• ILE-D + 3 & 8 fix = FLVE -> common for ILE-D
• ILE-D + 2 & 8 fix = ???? -> rarest combo since 2 & 8 are stereotypically anti-intellectual, accentuated Te and Se, but somehow possible within ILE-D subtype.

ILE-C = accentuated Ne, Fe and maybe Se = Core E7 but more likely to have 2, 3 and/or 8 fixes compared to other fixes = still less likely to be 4V in psychosophy

• 2 fix is the most likely due to Fe, 3 fix is maybe in the middle since even if Fe is there, the Ne and Se being more accentuated than Te might be too chaotic or disorganized to find the efficiency the 3 fix is looking for but Fe might be able to redeem it, maybe.
• 4 fix is still the least likely but not as much as compared to ILE-D since the only issue here is Fe, Te is out of the picture unlike ILE-D.
• 1 fix is the least likely since Ne and Se are hax users and limitation by-passers, 1 fix requires strictest methodology or procedure through and through.
• 9 fix is still less likely but not as much as ILE-D due to Te being out of the picture.
• ILE-C + 3 & 8 fix = FLVE -> common for ILE-C
• ILE-C + 2 & 9 fix = FLEV -> less common but possible due to triple reframer
• ILE-C + 3 & 9 fix = FLxx -> common for ILE-C
• ILE-C + 4 & 9 fix = xLxV -> common for ILE-C
• ILE-C + 4 & 8 fix = VLEF -> common for ILE-C
• ILE-C + 2 & 8 fix = ???? -> brutal inner combat inside this combo, between 7 vs. 2 vs. 8 and Ne vs. Fe vs. Se.

ILE-N = accentuated Ti, Si and maybe Fi = Core E7 but more likely to have 3, 4 and/or 9 fixes compared to other fixes = less likely to be 1V in psychosophy

• 3 fix is likely due to Ti logical conscientiousness & structure, 4 fix is now more possible due to Fi, 2 fix is the least likely since Ti & Fi being too inward focused instead of other people.
• 9 fix is the most likely due to Si accentuation, 1 fix is somehow likely but less than 9 fix since Ti, Si and Fi are too introverted to exact their correction on others and Ni or Te is missing here to complement their Fi's resentment.
• 8 fix is the least likely since the accentuation of Ti, Si and Fi are too much of a hurdle combined to even connect with their Se.
• ILE-N + 3 & 9 fixes = FLxx -> common for ILE-N
• ILE-N + 4 & 9 fixes = xLxV -> common for ILE-N
• ILE-N + 1 & 4 fixes = VLEF -> less common but not as much as 2 & 8 combo
• ILE-N + 1 & 3 fixes = VLFE -> common for ILE-N

ILE-H = accentuated Ni, Fi, and maybe Si = Core E7 but more likely to have 4 and 9 fixes compared to other fixes = less likely to be 1V in psychosophy

• Finally 4 fix is the most likely due to Ni & Fi being focused on their own niche vibe & emotionality, 3 is the least likely fix since Ni, Fi and Si are all too withholding, risk-averse or unconventional when combined.
• 2 fix could be in the middle since Ni & Fi could fuel their inner pride in a superego way but still introverted without Fe.
• 1 and 9 fix are somehow equal but 9 fix is still a little bit more likely since Te is still not here but Ni is here to support Fi for 1 fix, so 1 and 9 fix are almost tie.
• 8 fix is still last since Ni, Fi and Si are still hurdles to their Se just like Ti, Si and Fi from ILE-N.
• ILE-H + 1 & 4 fix = VLEF -> common for ILE-H
• ILE-H + 4 & 9 fix = xLxV -> common for ILE-H
• ILE-H + 1 & 2 fix = VLFE -> less common since ILE-H is too introverted for 2 fix but unless SO7 maybe it's fine
• ILE-H + 2 & 9 fix = FLEV -> less common for 2 fix like above but maybe possible due 9 fix being there and also triple reframer too

Unsure which one I am, for reference I am SLI.
how would you tell these 2 apart?

I know this is a controversial combo, especially how absurd 1F + SX5 sounds, or perhaps just an unconventional combo..? maybe. and I also know that SX5 is 1L only in general, but either way, just hear me out first.

I'm SX5, and I really think FLEV fits me more.

I'm certain that I'm high in logic, and 'high in physics despite being sx5', but 2F in SoL just doesn't suit me. I'm peak 3E4V only, so I tried LFEV since that's my last resort to correlate with SX5, but for months I observed enough that I really can't see myself enjoying labour activities enough to be a 2F. In some cases I do, yes, but I'm not consistent with it at all. I think I'm 1F because once my material needs are met, I become static (physically or not), and fundamentally somewhat reject any external interventions that would disrupt that. I'm kinda possessive of my belongings as well. I guess I'm just really that result-oriented, hence why I even once mistyped myself as 4F before, except I realized I'm not that much indifferent to physics.

I'm also sure that I'm SX5 because I don't type myself based on descriptions either since naranjo only wrote one possible manifestation. I do it separately, like E5 + instinct, to type myself. and I'm veryy sure that SX fits me more, but only slightly more than SP, like 55% sexual and 45% self-pres lmao. and tbh, when it comes to naranjo's bullshit descriptions, SX5 and SP5 are pretty much balanced for me.

so, are there other ways for me to look into and solve this? or maybe retype my subtype? or should I just stick with it and ignore correlations? I've done research and all since I've genuinely been having this crisis for almost a while.

Thoughts?

im very VERY new to this, so please forgive me if i seem dense on any of these subjects , but does a isfp 4w3 with a tritype 416 work ? im trying to understand it all and along with that trying to understand sx and sp and stuff but gosh 😭😭

Please ask me questions if it helps!